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Post by Bentley on Aug 14, 2024 10:43:53 GMT
Instead of making excuses,find some biblical texts that support your claim Christianity supports sex with pre pubescent children . Which part of "The Bible Is Prohibitive NOT Prescriptive" is too difficult for you? Which word is it you are having trouble with? All The Best What part of “So far you have failed miserably and excused your failure by claiming the Bible supports anything that it doesn’t mention .” Are you having trouble with ? |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 14, 2024 10:44:05 GMT
The Bible is NOT Prescriptive - it does not tell us what we can do. The Bible IS Prohibitive - it DOES tell us what to NOT DO. So the key issue is: is there any verse in the Bible that prohibits Child Sex Abuse, in the same manner that there are verses that prohibit Murder, Jealousy, Lying, Theft, etc? The answer to that is: No, there isn't. I did find OT verses to support my claim; you just don't want to admit that. The OT is still OFFICIALLY part of the Bible - trying to pretend it isn't is dishonest. BTW: If you are saying that the OT is no longer cannon doctrine you do know that means the 10 Commandments can now be ignored, including "1: You shall have no other god but me". Are you really sure you want to go down that route? All The Best So far you have failed miserably and excused your failure by claiming the Bible supports anything that it doesn’t mention . Its risible , it’s idiotic and it’s all in your mind . I dint need to go down any route except the one asking you to support your claim and pointing out your failure to do it. Here you go... ...again: Numbers 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
Deuteronomy: 20:14 14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath given thee.All The Best |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 14, 2024 10:50:33 GMT
Instead of making excuses,find some biblical texts that support your claim Christianity supports sex with pre pubescent children .So far you have failed miserably and excused your failure by claiming the Bible supports anything that it doesn’t mention . Its risible , it’s idiotic and it’s all in your mind . I dint need to go down any route except the one asking you to support your claim and pointing out your failure to do it. Here you go... ...again: Numbers 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
Deuteronomy: 20:14 14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath given thee.All The Best So where does it support sex with pre pubescent children ? That’s right it doesn’t. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 14, 2024 10:54:32 GMT
Here you go... ...again: Numbers 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
Deuteronomy: 20:14 14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath given thee.All The Best So where does it support sex with pre pubescent children ? That’s right it doesn’t. Well, if you can't read English what can I say. All The Best |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 14, 2024 11:01:12 GMT
So where does it support sex with pre pubescent children ? That’s right it doesn’t. Well, if you can't read English what can I say. All The Best I can. That’s why I know it doesn’t support sex with pre pubescent children …because it doesn’t say it . It doesn’t say that you should eat them either …which according to you supports eating children . |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 14, 2024 12:41:11 GMT
There is a fundamental - and obvious - difference between Christianity and Islam. Christianity has been reformed over the centuries to bear little relation to the way it started out. Islam has NOT. Any attempts to reform it have been blocked. An obvious example is that the story of "creation" (Adam and Eve) is no longer believed by Christians but any muslim who denies it (openly) will have to go into hiding.
Christianity and islam are both cults that have survived for centuries and become "religions" but Islam is still rooted in medieval times. Christianity has evolved. Islam still regards women as inferior and and anyone who doesn't believe its toxic message also as inferior. Its prophet (Mohammed) took Christian women as concubines and he married a 6 year old. Many muslims model their lives on the "Prophet". They actually believe this nonsense.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 14, 2024 12:48:59 GMT
There is a fundamental - and obvious - difference between Christianity and Islam. Christianity has been reformed over the centuries to bear little relation to the way it started out. Has it though? The OT is still Canon. The 10 Commandments are still Canon. An obvious example is that the story of "creation" (Adam and Eve) is no longer believed by Christians but any muslim who denies it (openly) will have to go into hiding. Creationism is still a core tenet of Christianity. With roughly 50% of Christians still believing in creationism. All The Best |
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Post by Orac on Aug 14, 2024 13:11:07 GMT
There is a fundamental - and obvious - difference between Christianity and Islam. Christianity has been reformed over the centuries to bear little relation to the way it started out. Has it though? The OT is still Canon. The 10 Commandments are still Canon. But this has been explained to you several times. From a Christian perspective the old testament isn't advocacySurely, you can't be missing the same simple point again and again and again by accident? |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 14, 2024 13:11:32 GMT
Bollocks. The OT isn't believed by anyone except a few loonies in the American mid-west - and they're pretty harmless. Same goes for creationism.
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Post by Ripley on Aug 14, 2024 15:04:30 GMT
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 14, 2024 15:10:54 GMT
Has it though? The OT is still Canon. The 10 Commandments are still Canon. But this has been explained to you several times. From a Christian perspective the old testament isn't advocacySurely, you can't be missing the same simple point again and again and again by accident? From a Christian perspective the OT is still Canon. I am not sure what "point" you have to disprove that. All The Best |
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Post by Ripley on Aug 14, 2024 15:19:09 GMT
Sorry to butt in here, but aren't we missing the point? Even if Christian scripture doesn't promote paedophilia, there is no getting around the incontrovertible fact that the church has protected paedophiles for decades, shuffling them around to abuse more and more children elsewhere. How is that justifiable or forgivable?
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Post by Orac on Aug 14, 2024 15:27:06 GMT
But this has been explained to you several times. From a Christian perspective the old testament isn't advocacySurely, you can't be missing the same simple point again and again and again by accident? From a Christian perspective the OT is still Canon. But not advocacy. Your point doesn't work unless the old testament is Christian advocacy. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 14, 2024 15:34:00 GMT
Sorry to butt in here, but aren't we missing the point? Even if Christian scripture doesn't promote paedophilia, there is no getting around the incontrovertible fact that the church has protected paedophiles for decades, shuffling them around to abuse more and more children elsewhere. How is that justifiable or forgivable? So have the BBC, many children’s care homes , the Boy Scouts and schools to name a few. Paedophiles go we children are , the Christian church was a place where children could be found . Blame the paedophiles within the church not Christianity. |
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Post by Ripley on Aug 14, 2024 15:46:31 GMT
Sorry to butt in here, but aren't we missing the point? Even if Christian scripture doesn't promote paedophilia, there is no getting around the incontrovertible fact that the church has protected paedophiles for decades, shuffling them around to abuse more and more children elsewhere. How is that justifiable or forgivable? So have the BBC, many children’s care homes , the Boy Scouts and schools to name a few. Paedophiles go we children are , the Christian church was a place where children could be found . Blame the paedophiles within the church not Christianity. Certainly blame the paedophiles, but the church was complicit because it knowingly aided, abetted and enabled these vile practices for decades. |
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