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Post by Totheleft on Aug 9, 2024 9:42:57 GMT
Enough of them to render it a national scandal. The act itself is bad enough but the way in which the authorities have turned a blind eye for many years - the BNP first exposed the issue in 2002 - was even worse. And it's still going on. www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-68446855No they didnt what about page chirves poor girl |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 9, 2024 10:30:33 GMT
When they're not riding around in gangs looking for underage white girls to groom and abduct. A gang of twenty-one people have been convicted of serious sexual offending against children in Walsall in the largest child sexual abuse investigation conducted by West Midlands Police. The crimes committed by a “network of child abusers” took place against seven victims, aged 12 and younger, over a period of nearly a decade in Walsall and Wolverhampton. The offenders carried out “the most appalling catalogue of sexual abuse of the utmost gravity”, according to prosecutors. The case, which caused victims “physical harm and extreme psychological harm”, can only now be reported due to the end of the third and final trial in legal proceedings lasting 15 months. The CPS and West Midlands Police conducted 70 suspect interviews and worked together for six years reviewing relevant evidence to bring the case to court, which was then split into three trials due to the large number of offenders. Child sexual abuse convictions Clockwise from top left: Tracey Baker, James Evans, Mark Smith, David Baker, Natalie Wellington were handed the longest prison sentences WMP WMP What Matthew Evans, 32, John Griffiths, 66, and Violet Griffiths, 66, were found guilty of multiple child sexual abuse offences at Wolverhampton crown court on Wednesday, and will be sentenced on 12 May. One more defendant was found not guilty. Tracey Baker, 41, David Baker, 41, Luke Baker, 22, David Evans, 72, Philip Wellington, 50, Natalie Wellington, 44, Jason Evans, 25, and Ryan Evans, 23, were found guilty of multiple child sexual abuse related offences on 2 February after the second trial. On 27 May 2022, James Evans, 38, Pamela Howells, 58, Lee Webb, 40, Kirsty Webb, 36, Mark Smith, 34, and Ann Marie Clare, 43, were convicted of multiple child sexual abuse-related offences. Stephen Webb, 65, Dean Webb, 35, and Jane Evans, 71, were found not fit to plead and the jury decided they had committed the acts alleged. The longest sentence was handed down to James Evans, who was found guilty of 20 child sexual abuse related offences and jailed for life with a minimum term of 18 years, as well as being given a sexual harm prevention order for life. Natasha Webb, 37, pleaded guilty before trial and is due to be sentenced at a later date. Prison terms ranged from life to 28 months, while four of those convicted received non-custodial terms. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 9, 2024 10:59:15 GMT
When they're not riding around in gangs looking for underage white girls to groom and abduct. A gang of twenty-one people have been convicted of serious sexual offending against children in Walsall in the largest child sexual abuse investigation conducted by West Midlands Police. The crimes committed by a “network of child abusers” took place against seven victims, aged 12 and younger, over a period of nearly a decade in Walsall and Wolverhampton. The offenders carried out “the most appalling catalogue of sexual abuse of the utmost gravity”, according to prosecutors. The case, which caused victims “physical harm and extreme psychological harm”, can only now be reported due to the end of the third and final trial in legal proceedings lasting 15 months. The CPS and West Midlands Police conducted 70 suspect interviews and worked together for six years reviewing relevant evidence to bring the case to court, which was then split into three trials due to the large number of offenders. Child sexual abuse convictions Clockwise from top left: Tracey Baker, James Evans, Mark Smith, David Baker, Natalie Wellington were handed the longest prison sentences WMP WMP What Matthew Evans, 32, John Griffiths, 66, and Violet Griffiths, 66, were found guilty of multiple child sexual abuse offences at Wolverhampton crown court on Wednesday, and will be sentenced on 12 May. One more defendant was found not guilty. Tracey Baker, 41, David Baker, 41, Luke Baker, 22, David Evans, 72, Philip Wellington, 50, Natalie Wellington, 44, Jason Evans, 25, and Ryan Evans, 23, were found guilty of multiple child sexual abuse related offences on 2 February after the second trial. On 27 May 2022, James Evans, 38, Pamela Howells, 58, Lee Webb, 40, Kirsty Webb, 36, Mark Smith, 34, and Ann Marie Clare, 43, were convicted of multiple child sexual abuse-related offences. Stephen Webb, 65, Dean Webb, 35, and Jane Evans, 71, were found not fit to plead and the jury decided they had committed the acts alleged. The longest sentence was handed down to James Evans, who was found guilty of 20 child sexual abuse related offences and jailed for life with a minimum term of 18 years, as well as being given a sexual harm prevention order for life. Natasha Webb, 37, pleaded guilty before trial and is due to be sentenced at a later date. Prison terms ranged from life to 28 months, while four of those convicted received non-custodial terms. Yup multiculturalism at its worst . The Muslim grooming gangs showed them the way . Now tell me if those white non Muslim people deliberately targeted little Muslim girls ..because the Muslims targeted little non Muslim girls . |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 9, 2024 11:13:49 GMT
A gang of twenty-one people have been convicted of serious sexual offending against children in Walsall in the largest child sexual abuse investigation conducted by West Midlands Police. The crimes committed by a “network of child abusers” took place against seven victims, aged 12 and younger, over a period of nearly a decade in Walsall and Wolverhampton. The offenders carried out “the most appalling catalogue of sexual abuse of the utmost gravity”, according to prosecutors. The case, which caused victims “physical harm and extreme psychological harm”, can only now be reported due to the end of the third and final trial in legal proceedings lasting 15 months. The CPS and West Midlands Police conducted 70 suspect interviews and worked together for six years reviewing relevant evidence to bring the case to court, which was then split into three trials due to the large number of offenders. Child sexual abuse convictions Clockwise from top left: Tracey Baker, James Evans, Mark Smith, David Baker, Natalie Wellington were handed the longest prison sentences WMP WMP What Matthew Evans, 32, John Griffiths, 66, and Violet Griffiths, 66, were found guilty of multiple child sexual abuse offences at Wolverhampton crown court on Wednesday, and will be sentenced on 12 May. One more defendant was found not guilty. Tracey Baker, 41, David Baker, 41, Luke Baker, 22, David Evans, 72, Philip Wellington, 50, Natalie Wellington, 44, Jason Evans, 25, and Ryan Evans, 23, were found guilty of multiple child sexual abuse related offences on 2 February after the second trial. On 27 May 2022, James Evans, 38, Pamela Howells, 58, Lee Webb, 40, Kirsty Webb, 36, Mark Smith, 34, and Ann Marie Clare, 43, were convicted of multiple child sexual abuse-related offences. Stephen Webb, 65, Dean Webb, 35, and Jane Evans, 71, were found not fit to plead and the jury decided they had committed the acts alleged. The longest sentence was handed down to James Evans, who was found guilty of 20 child sexual abuse related offences and jailed for life with a minimum term of 18 years, as well as being given a sexual harm prevention order for life. Natasha Webb, 37, pleaded guilty before trial and is due to be sentenced at a later date. Prison terms ranged from life to 28 months, while four of those convicted received non-custodial terms. Yup multiculturalism at its worst . The Muslim grooming gangs showed them the way . Now tell me if those white non Muslim people deliberately targeted little Muslim girls ..because the Muslims targeted little non Muslim girls . Oh i see Muslims lead the way so White British men followed by the way seems like a Apologists excuse for pedos . You never heard of yewtree investigation |
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Post by Vinny on Aug 9, 2024 11:22:53 GMT
Enough of them to render it a national scandal. The act itself is bad enough but the way in which the authorities have turned a blind eye for many years - the BNP first exposed the issue in 2002 - was even worse. And it's still going on. www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-68446855No they didnt what about page chirves poor girl There were Islamic grooming gangs. Many now in prison. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 9, 2024 11:24:28 GMT
Yup multiculturalism at its worst . The Muslim grooming gangs showed them the way . Now tell me if those white non Muslim people deliberately targeted little Muslim girls ..because the Muslims targeted little non Muslim girls . Oh i see Muslims lead the way so White British men followed by the way seems like a Apologists excuse for pedos . You never heard of yewtree investigation Well the Muslim grooming gang preceded the one you were in about by a few years . So the latter might have learned from the former . The difference seems to be that the Muslims deliberately targeted non Muslim little girls . It suggests that Muslims tend to view non Muslims as lesser human beings , doesn’t it ? Yewtree was a bit hit and miss . Some innocent men were accused and acquitted iirc. It never revealed a systematic sexual abuse of little girls of one ethnic group from a group of men from another ethnic group and culture . |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 9, 2024 12:30:25 GMT
No they didnt what about page chirves poor girl There were Islamic grooming gangs. Many now in prison. No vinny your thinking of the other Blackpool girl After a row with her father, Paige Chivers threw her belongings into two carrier bags and left home in Blackpool. Within weeks, she was murdered by the one person she turned to for help. Her body has never been found. But how was a vulnerable 15-year-old allowed to drift then disappear without trace? Paige Chivers had a troubled childhood. Expelled from school at 13, she drifted for the next two years, listlessly passing the time drinking alcohol and smoking cannabis. She had been due to return to education after a lengthy absence but she was murdered by Robert Ewing, 37 years her senior, who had groomed her for sex. He was convicted of murder at Preston Crown Court on 7 July following a three-month trial, but it could only be reported after the jury returned verdicts on his co-defendant, Gareth Dewhurst, 46, who was convicted of disposing of her body three days later. |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 9, 2024 12:35:00 GMT
Oh i see Muslims lead the way so White British men followed by the way seems like a Apologists excuse for pedos . You never heard of yewtree investigation Well the Muslim grooming gang preceded the one you were in about by a few years . So the latter might have learned from the former . The difference seems to be that the Muslims deliberately targeted non Muslim little girls . It suggests that Muslims tend to view non Muslims as lesser human beings , doesn’t it ? Yewtree was a bit hit and miss . Some innocent men were accused and acquitted iirc. It never revealed a systematic sexual abuse of little girls of one ethnic group from a group of men from another ethnic group and culture . The difference seems to be that the Muslims deliberately targeted non Muslim little girls . It suggests that Muslims tend to view non Muslims as lesser human beings , doesn’t it ? Yes i agree there no doubt there a racist element in the muslim Gangs |
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Post by Vinny on Aug 9, 2024 14:20:22 GMT
There were Islamic grooming gangs. Many now in prison. No vinny your thinking of the other Blackpool girl After a row with her father, Paige Chivers threw her belongings into two carrier bags and left home in Blackpool. Within weeks, she was murdered by the one person she turned to for help. Her body has never been found. But how was a vulnerable 15-year-old allowed to drift then disappear without trace? Paige Chivers had a troubled childhood. Expelled from school at 13, she drifted for the next two years, listlessly passing the time drinking alcohol and smoking cannabis. She had been due to return to education after a lengthy absence but she was murdered by Robert Ewing, 37 years her senior, who had groomed her for sex. He was convicted of murder at Preston Crown Court on 7 July following a three-month trial, but it could only be reported after the jury returned verdicts on his co-defendant, Gareth Dewhurst, 46, who was convicted of disposing of her body three days later. No, I'm thinking of the Rotherham and Rochdale grooming gangsters, many of whom are now in prison. Of course white paedophiles exist too. But we're talking about the systemic gang rape of girls by religious extremists who considered it to be an obligation to abuse non Muslims. |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 9, 2024 14:34:46 GMT
No vinny your thinking of the other Blackpool girl After a row with her father, Paige Chivers threw her belongings into two carrier bags and left home in Blackpool. Within weeks, she was murdered by the one person she turned to for help. Her body has never been found. But how was a vulnerable 15-year-old allowed to drift then disappear without trace? Paige Chivers had a troubled childhood. Expelled from school at 13, she drifted for the next two years, listlessly passing the time drinking alcohol and smoking cannabis. She had been due to return to education after a lengthy absence but she was murdered by Robert Ewing, 37 years her senior, who had groomed her for sex. He was convicted of murder at Preston Crown Court on 7 July following a three-month trial, but it could only be reported after the jury returned verdicts on his co-defendant, Gareth Dewhurst, 46, who was convicted of disposing of her body three days later. No, I'm thinking of the Rotherham and Rochdale grooming gangsters, many of whom are now in prison. Of course white paedophiles exist too. But we're talking about the systemic gang rape of girls by religious extremists who considered it to be an obligation to abuse non Muslims. But we're talking about the systemic gang rape of girls by religious extremists who considered it to be an obligation to abuse non Muslims. Is there any difference between systematic rape by Religious fanatics And the Systematic rape by them that do it for joy? I think not |
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 9, 2024 15:42:03 GMT
The rape gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham were not religious or faith based at all
The criminal activities, rape and acts of sexual abuse for which these men were convicted of were / are part of a cultural problem with men of Pakistani heritage, and who mostly originate from certain poorer areas of Pakistan.
Yes - it is a Pakistani problem, and yes 98% of all Pakistani people are Muslims, but its not a Muslim problem, it is a problem of outdated, backwards and unacceptable attitudes towards women, attitudes which sadly exist in parts of Pakistan, and which needs to be stamped out.
In almost every case and instance of these sex abuse cases, none of the abusers were Afghan, Sudanese, Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian, Libyan or Kosovan, or Muslims from any other nation other than Pakistan.
Of course these facts do not alter or change the fact that what these monsters did is any less excusable, but labelling all Muslims as been people more likely to commit sexual abuse against children is unreasonable and strictly not true.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 9, 2024 17:23:16 GMT
The rape gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham were not religious or faith based at all The criminal activities, rape and acts of sexual abuse for which these men were convicted of were / are part of a cultural problem with men of Pakistani heritage, and who mostly originate from certain poorer areas of Pakistan. Yes - it is a Pakistani problem, and yes 98% of all Pakistani people are Muslims, but its not a Muslim problem, it is a problem of outdated, backwards and unacceptable attitudes towards women, attitudes which sadly exist in parts of Pakistan, and which needs to be stamped out. In almost every case and instance of these sex abuse cases, none of the abusers were Afghan, Sudanese, Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian, Libyan or Kosovan, or Muslims from any other nation other than Pakistan.
Of course these facts do not alter or change the fact that what these monsters did is any less excusable, but labelling all Muslims as been people more likely to commit sexual abuse against children is unreasonable and strictly not true. Those nationalities are well represented among sex crime statistics - in Sweden 50% of rapes are committed by people from precisely those countries you highlight. There is a cultural issue amongst Islamic society that puts a low value on womens rights and safety. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 9, 2024 17:56:32 GMT
The rape gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham were not religious or faith based at all The criminal activities, rape and acts of sexual abuse for which these men were convicted of were / are part of a cultural problem with men of Pakistani heritage, and who mostly originate from certain poorer areas of Pakistan. Yes - it is a Pakistani problem, and yes 98% of all Pakistani people are Muslims, but its not a Muslim problem, it is a problem of outdated, backwards and unacceptable attitudes towards women, attitudes which sadly exist in parts of Pakistan, and which needs to be stamped out. In almost every case and instance of these sex abuse cases, none of the abusers were Afghan, Sudanese, Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian, Libyan or Kosovan, or Muslims from any other nation other than Pakistan. Of course these facts do not alter or change the fact that what these monsters did is any less excusable, but labelling all Muslims as been people more likely to commit sexual abuse against children is unreasonable and strictly not true. You must be as thick as TTL. They were all Muslim and all the little girls they groomed and raped were not . Iirc all the girls were white too. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 9, 2024 20:34:34 GMT
The rape gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham were not religious or faith based at all The criminal activities, rape and acts of sexual abuse for which these men were convicted of were / are part of a cultural problem with men of Pakistani heritage, and who mostly originate from certain poorer areas of Pakistan. Yes - it is a Pakistani problem, and yes 98% of all Pakistani people are Muslims, but its not a Muslim problem, it is a problem of outdated, backwards and unacceptable attitudes towards women, attitudes which sadly exist in parts of Pakistan, and which needs to be stamped out. In almost every case and instance of these sex abuse cases, none of the abusers were Afghan, Sudanese, Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian, Libyan or Kosovan, or Muslims from any other nation other than Pakistan. Of course these facts do not alter or change the fact that what these monsters did is any less excusable, but labelling all Muslims as been people more likely to commit sexual abuse against children is unreasonable and strictly not true. However saying it is not true is actually denying what people can see with their own eyes. The gangs exist, their MO is largely unique in that young vulnerable girls non Muslim are groomed to service the gang who are almost always Muslim and they believe that it is their God given right to do so. That is clear as testified by several girls who said that the men stated they were being treated that way because they were non Muslims. No one is labelling all Muslims but people are highlighting a problem with Islam, unfortunately Islam is filled with such problems for the rest of us. |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 9, 2024 21:21:34 GMT
The rape gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham were not religious or faith based at all The criminal activities, rape and acts of sexual abuse for which these men were convicted of were / are part of a cultural problem with men of Pakistani heritage, and who mostly originate from certain poorer areas of Pakistan. Yes - it is a Pakistani problem, and yes 98% of all Pakistani people are Muslims, but its not a Muslim problem, it is a problem of outdated, backwards and unacceptable attitudes towards women, attitudes which sadly exist in parts of Pakistan, and which needs to be stamped out. In almost every case and instance of these sex abuse cases, none of the abusers were Afghan, Sudanese, Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian, Libyan or Kosovan, or Muslims from any other nation other than Pakistan.
Of course these facts do not alter or change the fact that what these monsters did is any less excusable, but labelling all Muslims as been people more likely to commit sexual abuse against children is unreasonable and strictly not true. Those nationalities are well represented among sex crime statistics - in Sweden 50% of rapes are committed by people from precisely those countries you highlight. There is a cultural issue amongst Islamic society that puts a low value on womens rights and safety. Unlike the majority of countries in Europe, crime data in Sweden are collected when the offence in question is first reported, at which point the classification may be unclear. In Sweden, once an act has been registered as rape, it retains this classification in the published crime statistics, even if later investigations indicate that no crime can be proven or if the offence must be given an alternative judicial classification.[14][15][16 |
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