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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 8, 2024 6:52:57 GMT
The West Country is usually a haven of sanity relative to the more heavily populated areas of England but a few days ago there were semi-violent protests in Plymouth. There seemed to be a small group demonstrating (peacefully) about immigration but they were driven out by a group of fairly aggressive "Anti racists" who conflate anti-immigration feelings with racism and fascism. It all soon fizzled out but it's instructive in that it was a simple example of two of the factions - anti-immigration (presumably called the far Right by Starmer) and the anti-racism group (who are probably the far Left) who are much better organised and better armed..
The thing is that when you look at the rest of England there are two more factions - the muslims and the anti-muslims (called the EDL by the ludicrous BBC or the far Right). So that makes four factions all together.
But the govt seem to recognise only one faction - the far Right (which includes those who want controlled immigration and those who regard muslims as out of control). The far Left and the muslims are regarded as vigilantes who are to be encouraged because they attack the "far Right" anti-immigration faction.
The police chief (from Guildford IIRC) who addressed the muslim "community leaders and elders" by starting with a greeting in Urdu and thanking the "elders" for "allowing him to address them" gave away the attitude of the police. The muslims are now allowed to control how they're policed - if at all. After all they have their own Sharia Courts now.
Crazy stuff.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 8, 2024 7:33:26 GMT
The West Country is usually a haven of sanity relative to the more heavily populated areas of England but a few days ago there were semi-violent protests in Plymouth. There seemed to be a small group demonstrating (peacefully) about immigration but they were driven out by a group of fairly aggressive "Anti racists" who conflate anti-immigration feelings with racism and fascism. It all soon fizzled out but it's instructive in that it was a simple example of two of the factions - anti-immigration (presumably called the far Right by Starmer) and the anti-racism group (who are probably the far Left) who are much better organised and better armed.. The thing is that when you look at the rest of England there are two more factions - the muslims and the anti-muslims (called the EDL by the ludicrous BBC or the far Right). So that makes four factions all together. But the govt seem to recognise only one faction - the far Right (which includes those who want controlled immigration and those who regard muslims as out of control). The far Left and the muslims are regarded as vigilantes who are to be encouraged because they attack the "far Right" anti-immigration faction. The police chief (from Guildford IIRC) who addressed the muslim "community leaders and elders" by starting with a greeting in Urdu and thanking the "elders" for "allowing him to address them" gave away the attitude of the police. The muslims are now allowed to control how they're policed - if at all. After all they have their own Sharia Courts now. Crazy stuff. It's the power of brainwashing, e.g. NLP etc. The brainwashing is conducted by what they call cultural training. The police were never like that when they joined the force. They have been made into that. Anyway, it is important to study what actually goes on rather than the names they ascribe to these activities.
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Post by Orac on Aug 8, 2024 8:04:59 GMT
The West Country is usually a haven of sanity relative to the more heavily populated areas of England but a few days ago there were semi-violent protests in Plymouth. There seemed to be a small group demonstrating (peacefully) about immigration but they were driven out by a group of fairly aggressive "Anti racists" who conflate anti-immigration feelings with racism and fascism. It all soon fizzled out but it's instructive in that it was a simple example of two of the factions - anti-immigration (presumably called the far Right by Starmer) and the anti-racism group (who are probably the far Left) who are much better organised and better armed.. The thing is that when you look at the rest of England there are two more factions - the muslims and the anti-muslims (called the EDL by the ludicrous BBC or the far Right). So that makes four factions all together. But the govt seem to recognise only one faction - the far Right (which includes those who want controlled immigration and those who regard muslims as out of control). The far Left and the muslims are regarded as vigilantes who are to be encouraged because they attack the "far Right" anti-immigration faction. The police chief (from Guildford IIRC) who addressed the muslim "community leaders and elders" by starting with a greeting in Urdu and thanking the "elders" for "allowing him to address them" gave away the attitude of the police. The muslims are now allowed to control how they're policed - if at all. After all they have their own Sharia Courts now. Crazy stuff. It's the power of brainwashing, e.g. NLP etc. The brainwashing is conducted by what they call cultural training. The police were never like that when they joined the force. They have been made into that. Anyway, it is important to study what actually goes on rather than the names they ascribe to these activities. The police only now recruit graduates from universities. This pattern is repeated across all parts of the state. It started with Blair but we now have a fully enclosed and self supporting mind-washing tunnel from early childhood to holding any role with responsibility or power. In this respect the situation is now probably worse then the Soviet union, who didn't have the means to make enforcement tight enough
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 8, 2024 8:46:30 GMT
Yes. In saner times, up to the 1970s say, the rank and file police would probably have downed tools if ordered to violently assault and arrest their working class compatriots while at the same time standing guard over mosques and immigrant enclaves.
I still wonder though how the Army would respond if, or rather when, they are called in to action to support the police who have lost control over the forthcoming ethnic conflicts.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 8, 2024 8:58:04 GMT
Labour are not talking about the Islamic factions, the religious gangs intent on bullying and intimidating everyone else. If those gangs are not stopped, in a generation or two it could lead to war in our country, between them, and the "unbelievers", because they are taught to hate the "unbelievers". www.yahoo.com/news/muslim-counter-protesters-went-defending-182838272.htmlThere have already been riots and assaults by Salafist Muslims.
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Post by Orac on Aug 8, 2024 8:59:40 GMT
They've done exactly what many predicted - set up their own parallel societies that are basically at war with us in our territory
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 8, 2024 9:19:24 GMT
It's the power of brainwashing, e.g. NLP etc. The brainwashing is conducted by what they call cultural training. The police were never like that when they joined the force. They have been made into that. Anyway, it is important to study what actually goes on rather than the names they ascribe to these activities. The police only now recruit graduates from universities. This pattern is repeated across all parts of the state. It started with Blair but we now have a fully enclosed and self supporting mind-washing tunnel from early childhood to holding any role with responsibility or power. In this respect the situation is now probably worse then the Soviet union, who didn't have the means to make enforcement tight enough Yes it is a great shame. So many people could have turned into decent folk, but now have to be brainwashed into imbeciles. There are ways one can counter it though. Brainwashing is like building a house of cards. It's a bit like cultivation. You have your natural species which are a wide mixture of genes which have evolved naturally into a highly stable and robust organism, but when you try and say select a plant for the way it looks you can hone out that characteristic and make it just what you want, but other aspects of the organism are far from ideal and the chances are it will be more susceptible to disease and all sorts.
The same sort of process happens with the mind. In its natural state it will encounter wide varieties of experiences and become what they call a rounded character, as in a stable sensible personality who is strong and adept at survival. So the more you hone out the obedience characteristic, the more vulnerable the mind becomes to matters of stability. This is why you see so much mental illness. Anyhow just to conclude, there are ways an opponent can exploit this psychological instability to make them go completely mental without them ever guessing what you are doing. I've practised this and so if one of these apes comes knocking on my door, then chances are they will get more than they bargained for. I'm an experienced lawyer as well. Brainwashing and the logic of law do not mix. There is your clue!
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 8, 2024 11:20:00 GMT
Certainly a part of the problem is that the nature of our police has changed radically. It probably happened under Blair like much of the politicisation (e.g. of the civil service). What happened with the police is that the people who lead the police are no longer people who have gone through the ranks. They're recruited from the top universities (Oxbridge mainly) and are then fast-tracked - so they have little experience of "real" policing. They're also almost always liberal Left and are basically being trained as future Labour politicians.
There's a huge culture gap between the chief constables and the working police.
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 8, 2024 11:33:34 GMT
Labour are not talking about the Islamic factions, the religious gangs intent on bullying and intimidating everyone else. If those gangs are not stopped, in a generation or two it could lead to war in our country, between them, and the "unbelievers", because they are taught to hate the "unbelievers". www.yahoo.com/news/muslim-counter-protesters-went-defending-182838272.htmlThere have already been riots and assaults by Salafist Muslims. I see that the bike that this muslim yob is riding has a number plate of "ANPR THIS". That bike is not an e-bike - it's an electric powered moped. So it needs to be registered and insured - tax is free. But it needs a number plate. So why have the police not stopped the bastard. There are loads of them riding around and they're all illegal.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 8, 2024 11:56:02 GMT
Yep, should have arrested him and all his thug mates.
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