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Post by Totheleft on Aug 7, 2024 19:42:11 GMT
"Chief whip of Reform UK Lee Anderson on GB News said “British working class lads out throwing stones and damaging things aren’t far right thugs” He goes on to downplay their actions, saying they have “probably had one too many and got involved with the wrong crowd” Anderson said “we all do daft things when we are young” and feels the rioters should not be jailed" x.com/GBNewsSpin/status/1820852993127838169?t=7jOmkBpIZkOe2zwuuyfNVQ&s=19Surely this is indefensible? He also said they are young idiots. He is right though one has to ask the question of them why and that seems as far from anyone's mind as possible. There is no wish to engage, there is no wish to ask why there is only we shall knock this on the head. That is not the normal way things are done we are asked to understand children who carry knives by several erudite people as a means to tackling knife crime. Young people feel abandoned, alienated, excluded yet not so in this case. The Government has made their mind up who and what they are and will brook no discussion on that. Lefties often have to engage in what they actually preach. Young people are you kidding there middle aged thugs |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 7, 2024 19:45:15 GMT
When you look at the areas where most of these demos have kicked off they are mainly tribal Labour areas. And most of the demonstrators will be locals, many of whom probably voted Labour only a few short weeks ago. I wonder if Two-Tier Kier has realised that many of those he calls "Far Right" are probably his own voters? No they travel form outside the area and most likely Reform voters |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 7, 2024 19:48:49 GMT
Over 90% of those charged are working class - that is simply a fact. That you may commit a crime does not mean that you cease to be part of the class you were born into. Is there a legal definition of working class? Do the police record that kind of information? Not being confrontational just genuinely curious, I had no idea. No they don't |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 7, 2024 19:51:26 GMT
It was easy to spot the difference working and middle class 50 years ago . Working class were paid hourly and middle class were paid a yearly salary. A bloke in a suit who worked in shipping or finance wouldn’t be seen as working class. They would be seen as a ponce . Strange thing is that in those days the working class voted Labour and nowadays the ‘ ponces’do . Ken Clark said” There’s this kind of underclass , a group of dissatisfied ,angry , anti establishment people who feel they ..they don’t belong to anybody or anything “ about the protesters. I agree . They have been told that they are privileged, their past is one of racism, oppression and worse , they should come second to migrants and other ethnic groups . “Shut up cos if you don’t you’re a racist.” And now they are kicking back . Lefties don’t have the answer but they may be forced into a compromise. "They" aren't doing anything, we're not all linked to one hive mind. We are individuals with our own individual political opinions and voting habits. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 7, 2024 19:52:42 GMT
Would you recommend sitting down with them and having a chat about their feelings? No but then that was never my recommendation. Getting to root causes is important but destruction we all agree is not the way to go is it? So do you think we should get to the root causes of pro Palestinian protesters? BLM? |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 7, 2024 19:54:42 GMT
Right and do the police record and release the social class of people arrested? No - they record their home address - and we know what is the social make up of each area. That's a bit snobbish said before my sister a millionaire but very working class |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 7, 2024 20:01:09 GMT
"Racism was not invented by working class people it was invented by elite academics and perpetuated as part of political philosophy from the top down not the bottom up".
Akala
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 7, 2024 20:02:54 GMT
No - they record their home address - and we know what is the social make up of each area. That's a bit snobbish said before my sister a millionaire but very working class There's a fair bit of snobbery on these boards I've noticed. |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 7, 2024 20:05:54 GMT
That's a bit snobbish said before my sister a millionaire but very working class There's a fair bit of snobbery on these boards I've noticed. Probably all sat at home with there wine Saying ok jeves |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 7, 2024 20:10:37 GMT
It was easy to spot the difference working and middle class 50 years ago . Working class were paid hourly and middle class were paid a yearly salary. A bloke in a suit who worked in shipping or finance wouldn’t be seen as working class. They would be seen as a ponce . Strange thing is that in those days the working class voted Labour and nowadays the ‘ ponces’do . Ken Clark said” There’s this kind of underclass , a group of dissatisfied ,angry , anti establishment people who feel they ..they don’t belong to anybody or anything “ about the protesters. I agree . They have been told that they are privileged, their past is one of racism, oppression and worse , they should come second to migrants and other ethnic groups . “Shut up cos if you don’t you’re a racist.” And now they are kicking back . Lefties don’t have the answer but they may be forced into a compromise. "They" aren't doing anything, we're not all linked to one hive mind. We are individuals with our own individual political opinions and voting habits. Ah you’ve pulled the ‘ hive mind’ straw man out of your arse . No one claimed that . Ask your Muslim friends if Muslims who share a similar experience and opinions as a group are nothing more than one hive mind . Maybe the the history of trade unionism is merely a history of hive minds without individual opinions and voting habits . |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 7, 2024 20:16:04 GMT
No - they record their home address - and we know what is the social make up of each area. That's a bit snobbish said before my sister a millionaire but very working class How is a millionaire working class ? |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 7, 2024 20:25:55 GMT
That's a bit snobbish said before my sister a millionaire but very working class How is a millionaire working class ? Shes from a working class background and made it good. Dont you think that possible or is that Snobbery. Look at Alan sugar for one |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 7, 2024 20:27:43 GMT
"They" aren't doing anything, we're not all linked to one hive mind. We are individuals with our own individual political opinions and voting habits. Ah you’ve pulled the ‘ hive mind’ straw man out of your arse . No one claimed that . Ask your Muslim friends if Muslims who share a similar experience and opinions as a group are nothing more than one hive mind . Maybe the the history of trade unionism is merely a history of hive minds without individual opinions and voting habits . "They have been told that they are privileged, their past is one of racism, oppression and worse , they should come second to migrants and other ethnic groups . “Shut up cos if you don’t you’re a racist.” And now they are kicking back ." "They" have their own experiences and viewpoints. There is no one working class narrative. Or do I get to decide what everyone in your demographic group has experienced and what they think? |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 7, 2024 20:29:28 GMT
That's a bit snobbish said before my sister a millionaire but very working class How is a millionaire working class ? Easy. You're born and raised in a working class culture, it forms part of your identity and doesn't disappear in a puff of smoke once you've made a certain amount of money. There's more to class than a bank balance. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 7, 2024 20:30:54 GMT
How is a millionaire working class ? Shes from a working class background and made it good. Dont you think that possible or is that Snobbery. Look at Alan sugar for one Being from a working class background is not being working class . If you think Alan Sugar is working class then you are stupid. |
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