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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 4, 2024 6:31:09 GMT
Starmer is so politically inept and understands so little about what's going on in this country - and why people are rioting - that I'm absolutely sure that he is going to approve the APPG definition of "Islamophobia". The Labour party has already approved it so it's pretty obvious that this will be his next step. So in one move he will effectively reinstate the blasphemy law - but only for Islam. So anyone who is critical of islam - for example someone who says that islam is incompatible with British culture - will be guilty of a hate crime. Insane.
The next thing he'll do is to agree dynamic realignment with the EU, thus undermining the biggest democratic mandate that the UK has ever had - the 17.4 million who voted to take back control.
And I see that Lammy has effectively stopped the supply of arms to Israel - one of our oldest allies.
Starmer is so in hoc to the muslims that he'll do anything to curry favour with them.
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Post by Orac on Aug 4, 2024 9:12:34 GMT
Starmer is so in hoc to the muslims that he'll do anything to curry favour with them. Sublime.
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Post by Hutchyns on Aug 4, 2024 9:45:25 GMT
steppenwolf
If Starmer was politically inept, we could attempt to make excuses for him such as pointing out he's been an MP for less than 10 years and maybe he's just a bit of a slow learner. But the reality is that despite only coming into the Commons in 2015, he's quickly flown through the Parliamentary Party to take leadership of it, and in his first attempt at fighting an Election as Leader, romps home to a landslide victory to make himself Prime Minister. His methods of political operating have brought him the results he wants.
Sir Keir didn't overly concern himself with why Corbyn, Abbott, McDonald, Long-Bailey etc had different ideas to him, and he didn't think how best to compromise with them, how to reach a consensus, he knew they were the enemy, wanted them gone, and arranged for them to be dealt with.
Similarly he hasn't been wringing is hands and saying 'If only I could work out why these people are rioting', instead he's just declared them to be the Far Right and announced that they'll be dealt with as harshly as necessary. He'll be content that he has a plan for them, as he does for all those who oppose his intentions, and is content for the moment to allow them to paint themselves in a bad, violent, and destructive light ...... and will shortly go about cancelling them.
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 4, 2024 12:14:35 GMT
steppenwolf If Starmer was politically inept, we could attempt to make excuses for him such as pointing out he's been an MP for less than 10 years and maybe he's just a bit of a slow learner. But the reality is that despite only coming into the Commons in 2015, he's quickly flown through the Parliamentary Party to take leadership of it, and in his first attempt at fighting an Election as Leader, romps home to a landslide victory to make himself Prime Minister. His methods of political operating have brought him the results he wants. Sir Keir didn't overly concern himself with why Corbyn, Abbott, McDonald, Long-Bailey etc had different ideas to him, and he didn't think how best to compromise with them, how to reach a consensus, he knew they were the enemy, wanted them gone, and arranged for them to be dealt with. Similarly he hasn't been wringing is hands and saying 'If only I could work out why these people are rioting', instead he's just declared them to be the Far Right and announced that they'll be dealt with as harshly as necessary. He'll be content that he has a plan for them, as he does for all those who oppose his intentions, and is content for the moment to allow them to paint themselves in a bad, violent, and destructive light ...... and will shortly go about cancelling them. What a ridiculous post. Starmer didn't concern himself with why people like Corbyn had different views from him because he didn't and doesn't have any views. All he did was suck up to them and even called Corbyn a friend and supported him in the shadow cabinet. And he hasn't bothered to try and work out why people are rioting because he hasn't got either the knowledge or the intellect to work it out. And he hasn't got the charisma or the personality to defuse their anger because he can't talk to people. The only thing that I'm wondering about is how on earth he can be so tin eared when Tony Blair is allegedly pulling his strings. Blair would certainly not have allowed the current situation to have occurred. What's happened? At the current rate I'd say we're going to have full scale riots across the country in the very near future. Someone said on the Cardwell program today that the situation was a bit like that of a schoolboy who had been bullied for years and then suddenly decided he'd had enough and finally hit back - only to find that the teacher, who had never protected him, sprang to the defence of the bullies and put HIM in detention. It's a pretty accurate analogy.
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Post by Hutchyns on Aug 4, 2024 13:14:54 GMT
Yeah that must be it ..... Starmer hasn't had and still doesn't have any views, if a major problem crops up he doesn't bother to try working out why because he hasn't the knowledge or the intellect to do so, and he's additionally hampered from asking people why it's happening because he can't talk to people Yet the Labour Party select him as their leader and the voting public help him cruise to overwhelming victory in the General Election. And as for what he's going to do next .... don't tell me ....I bet he's already training to be an Ayatollah ?
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 4, 2024 14:15:21 GMT
When I was at college (Cambridge) it occurred to me that the people doing law were not very bright. All you need to be a good lawyer is a good memory - analytical skills are not needed. True to type Starmer is incapable of analysis. He got the job because he's white, male and his face fitted. But he got elected on less than 20% of the electorate - the lowest ever. He has no mandate.
He has created a monumental mess in less than a month which will be very hard for him to dig himself out of. He's still wondering why the killing of a few little girls in Southport can have led to riots - I mean who cares, he'll be thinking to himself.
I've spent decades playing the stock market. I've only given it up because I'm a multi-millionaire now and will never be able to spend my money - I'm giving it away to my relatives. But one of the many things I learnt is that the events that cause the most disruption (both in the world and on the markets) often seem relatively inconsequential. It's the old flap of a butterfly's wing thing. Suddenly the whole market turns tail and you can't offload shares quick enough to save your money.
It's the same with this muslim problem. They've been taking the piss for decades - killing and maiming people with their terrorism and raping white girls across the country and everybody ignored it. Of course the likes of Theresa May got up every now and then and said "Enough is enough" but then she sat down again and nothing ever happened. It's like the roadrunner running over a cliff edge.
But this time it looks like enough really is enough. And I don't think Starmer has a clue what to do - or what's going to happen. He's on borrowed time.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 4, 2024 15:00:37 GMT
He will try to crush dissent . Black, Muslim and self hating white racists will applaud.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Aug 4, 2024 16:08:49 GMT
Starmer is an atheist who appears to appreciate the beneficent aspects of Reform Judaism. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_Judaism"Reform Judaism, also known as Liberal Judaism or Progressive Judaism, is a major Jewish denomination that emphasizes the evolving nature of Judaism, the superiority of its ethical aspects to its ceremonial ones, and belief in a continuous revelation which is closely intertwined with human reason and not limited to the Theophany at Mount Sinai". Britain is now being "guided" by a moral philosophy/religion that to a significant extent evolved from the philosophy of Immanuel Kant. Although he was not Jewish the Reform movement refers to him as "Rabbi Kant". Reform Judaism is possibly the most sophisticated (and the sanest) religiously-based world perception currently available to mankind. One interesting fact about Kant as that he was quite obviously "on the spectrum"... an autistic genius intent on figuring out how mankind should best think and behave. Maybe they could get together with these people? Muslim Reform Movement en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Reform_Movement#:~:text=The%20Muslim%20Reform%20Movement%20is,human%20rights%2C%20and%20secular%20governance.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 4, 2024 16:34:34 GMT
He will try to crush dissent . Black, Muslim and self hating white racists will applaud. Indeed, he will come down hard on anyone with white skin who openly opposes mass immigration. Starmer is a dangerous left wing authoritarian, and I think there's trouble ahead.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 4, 2024 20:32:10 GMT
He will try to crush dissent . Black, Muslim and self hating white racists will applaud. Indeed, he will come down hard on anyone with white skin who openly opposes mass immigration. Starmer is a dangerous left wing authoritarian, and I think there's trouble ahead. He’s an idiot too. One if the major reasons of Brexit was excessive / uncontrolled immmgration and multiculturalism. The remainers accused leavers of being bigots and “ little englanders “ instead of addressing the issue and imo that was a major factor in them losing the referendum. If Starmer ignores the underlying issues and frustration from the protesters then just tries to crush any dialogue , there will be a huge backlash, both now and the next GE.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 4, 2024 20:52:27 GMT
Indeed, he will come down hard on anyone with white skin who openly opposes mass immigration. Starmer is a dangerous left wing authoritarian, and I think there's trouble ahead. He’s an idiot too. One if the major reasons of Brexit was excessive / uncontrolled immmgration and multiculturalism. The remainers accused leavers of being bigots and “ little englanders “ instead of addressing the issue and imo that was a major factor in them losing the referendum. If Starmer ignores the underlying issues and frustration from the protesters then just tries to crush any dialogue , there will be a huge backlash, both now and the next GE. It's not just a problem of the left though is it, Every Tory PM since Cameron has refused to accept that continued mass immigration will inevitably cause problems. But now it's Starmers problem and it's OK being incompetent in opposition, unfortunately for all of us he is now the pro EU pro immigrant prime minister. God knows how this is going to end but it's not going to be pretty.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 4, 2024 21:05:40 GMT
He’s an idiot too. One if the major reasons of Brexit was excessive / uncontrolled immmgration and multiculturalism. The remainers accused leavers of being bigots and “ little englanders “ instead of addressing the issue and imo that was a major factor in them losing the referendum. If Starmer ignores the underlying issues and frustration from the protesters then just tries to crush any dialogue , there will be a huge backlash, both now and the next GE. It's not just a problem of the left though is it, Every Tory PM since Cameron has refused to accept that continued mass immigration will inevitably cause problems. But now it's Starmers problem and it's OK being incompetent in opposition, unfortunately for all of us he is now the pro EU pro immigrant prime minister. God knows how this is going to end but it's not going to be pretty. Indeed but it’s Starmer watch now and the team that told us how much better they could do than the Tories have got their chance to stop the boats, smash the gangs and control immigration. They have got their chance to listen to white ethnic groups without condemnation and demonisation too. So far, so bad.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 4, 2024 21:22:36 GMT
Indeed but it’s Starmer watch now and the team that told us how much better they could do than the Tories have got their chance to stop the boats, smash the gangs and control immigration. They have got their chance to listen to white ethnic groups without condemnation and demonisation too. So far, so bad. Starmer didn't expect a baptism of fire like this that's for sure, but he is stoking the flames if only his advisors could see it. He gave a second emergency speech from Downing Street earlier, did you hear it? I couldn't belive it, the message he gave to millions of people who are sick of mass immigration was essentially... anyone with white skin who disagrees with mass immigration will be jailed, and the government will provide (at tax payers expense) protection for mosques. He hasn't got a fuckin clue.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 4, 2024 21:27:04 GMT
Indeed but it’s Starmer watch now and the team that told us how much better they could do than the Tories have got their chance to stop the boats, smash the gangs and control immigration. They have got their chance to listen to white ethnic groups without condemnation and demonisation too. So far, so bad. Starmer didn't expect a baptism of fire like this that's for sure, but he is stoking the flames if only his advisors could see it. He gave a second emergency speech from Downing Street earlier, did you hear it? I couldn't belive it, the message he gave to millions of people who are sick of mass immigration was essentially... anyone with white skin who disagrees with mass immigration will be jailed, and the government will provide (at tax payers expense) protection for mosques. He hasn't got a fuckin clue. He is protecting Labour voters and shafting the rest of us . It won’t be forgotten.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2024 14:37:17 GMT
Starmer is so politically inept and understands so little about what's going on in this country - and why people are rioting - that I'm absolutely sure that he is going to approve the APPG definition of "Islamophobia". The Labour party has already approved it so it's pretty obvious that this will be his next step. So in one move he will effectively reinstate the blasphemy law - but only for Islam. So anyone who is critical of islam - for example someone who says that islam is incompatible with British culture - will be guilty of a hate crime. Insane. The next thing he'll do is to agree dynamic realignment with the EU, thus undermining the biggest democratic mandate that the UK has ever had - the 17.4 million who voted to take back control. And I see that Lammy has effectively stopped the supply of arms to Israel - one of our oldest allies. Starmer is so in hoc to the muslims that he'll do anything to curry favour with them. It's all pretty much as expected, except that there was not much mention of this in the manifesto. So they go off piste in the month after election. They will do as they like. As far as not selling arms to Israel goes, I have a belief in the Word of God, and Britain will suffer badly because of that decision alone.
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