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Post by Bentley on Dec 4, 2022 14:19:14 GMT
As I pointed out in the other thread , the black woman leads a charity for abused black women. That’s racist for a start.
Im not sure how a charity specifically for white women and run by a white woman would go down with the wokes.
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Post by Orac on Dec 4, 2022 14:24:32 GMT
Harm would be defined as likely to cause physical or economic harm to the person or persons concerned. Could not the implication that someone with black skin and dressed in traditional African costume, would / should not have their origins in the UK, be construed as a harm to a person in the UK with black skin wearing traditional African costume? Could not the implication that someone (anyone) not have their origins in the UK , be construed as plausibly harmful to them? The answer is yes...plausibly |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 4, 2022 14:25:47 GMT
As I pointed out in the other thread , the black woman leads a charity for abused black women. That’s racist for a start. Im not sure how a charity specifically for white women and run by a white woman would go down with the wokes. I don't personally feel a charity for any particular group is racist. However I do think the woke folk should question why this woman is excluding white women. Of course like all these things it may well have a reasonable explanation. It could be that Black female abuse is very different to white female abuse. I would normally investigate such a thing before commenting, though I accept the norm is to make the claim and then get angry when proved wrong. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 4, 2022 14:28:04 GMT
Harm would be defined as likely to cause physical or economic harm to the person or persons concerned. Could not the implication that someone with black skin and dressed in traditional African costume, would / should not have their origins in the UK, be construed as a harm to a person in the UK with black skin wearing traditional African costume? Could not the implication that someone (anyone) not have their origins in the UK , be construed as plausibly harmful to them? The answer is yes...plausibly Its vaguely possible to construe such a meaning, but a couple of questions would quickly settle the matter. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 4, 2022 14:30:05 GMT
As I pointed out in the other thread , the black woman leads a charity for abused black women. That’s racist for a start. Im not sure how a charity specifically for white women and run by a white woman would go down with the wokes. I don't personally feel a charity for any particular group is racist. However I do think the woke folk should question why this woman is excluding white women. Of course like all these things it may well have a reasonable explanation. It could be that Black female abuse is very different to white female abuse. I would normally investigate such a thing before commenting, though I accept the norm is to make the claim and then get angry when proved wrong. If Afro Caribbean abuse is different from common or garden white English abuse then there is a specific different between the cultures. So why get shirty ( and worse)when a white woman asks about her racial heritage? |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 4, 2022 14:32:40 GMT
I don't personally feel a charity for any particular group is racist. However I do think the woke folk should question why this woman is excluding white women. Of course like all these things it may well have a reasonable explanation. It could be that Black female abuse is very different to white female abuse. I would normally investigate such a thing before commenting, though I accept the norm is to make the claim and then get angry when proved wrong. If Afro Caribbean abuse is different from common or garden white English abuse then there is a specific different between the cultures. So why get shirty ( and worse)when a white woman asks about her racial heritage? You would need to firstly establish what the difference was, then ask the persons concerned. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 4, 2022 14:35:45 GMT
If Afro Caribbean abuse is different from common or garden white English abuse then there is a specific different between the cultures. So why get shirty ( and worse)when a white woman asks about her racial heritage? You would need to firstly establish what the difference was, then ask the persons concerned. Clearly the woman who objected to a white woman asking about her racial heritage believes it because she is fronting a charity based on it. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 4, 2022 14:45:40 GMT
You would need to firstly establish what the difference was, then ask the persons concerned. Clearly the woman who objected to a white woman asking about her racial heritage believes it because she is fronting a charity based on it. Clearly to you, not to me. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 4, 2022 14:48:31 GMT
Clearly the woman who objected to a white woman asking about her racial heritage believes it because she is fronting a charity based on it. Clearly to you, not to me. Clearly to her . She leads a charity based in it ( for the second time ). Unless she is so racist that she only wants to help black Afro Caribbean women. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 4, 2022 14:55:18 GMT
Just done a fairly long search. I can find no reference to it beyond Farage's supposition. So I think it's false. Thank you Zany So her transcript of the conversation is her memory of the conversation with all its possible inaccuracies and biases. I am not clear if Lady Hussey was given a chance to present her account but it seems she has been declared guilty by the Royal Household. This seems to be the major problem in that people are effectively found guilty of an offence and subject to enforced resignation with immediate effect. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 4, 2022 15:13:56 GMT
Clearly the woman who objected to a white woman asking about her racial heritage believes it because she is fronting a charity based on it. Clearly to you, not to me. What's not clear to you? That's her charity's stated aim. |
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Post by ratcliff on Dec 4, 2022 15:31:57 GMT
Indeed. But the question I really want answered is why its insulting to ask what country someone's family originates from. Yes it's quite baffling why this should be seen as 'a violation'.
When I lived in the United States it was extremely common to be asked where I came from, even in busines and official situations. Nobody would have been satisfied if I'd responded 'California'.
As it happens, most people assumed I was Australian since I don't speak like Prince Charles. But it wasn't something to have a complete emotional collapse over and certainly shrieking 'that's racism' would have been viewed as being very odd.
As another who doesn't speak like the King I've been asked many times by Americans which part of Australia I'm from Didn't realise I'm supposed to have been upset by the question |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 4, 2022 15:41:01 GMT
Clearly to you, not to me. Clearly to her . She leads a charity based in it ( for the second time ). Unless she is so racist that she only wants to help black Afro Caribbean women. I can set up a charity to help the victims of rape. It does not follow that I want to discuss my rape. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 4, 2022 15:42:15 GMT
Clearly to her . She leads a charity based in it ( for the second time ). Unless she is so racist that she only wants to help black Afro Caribbean women. I can set up a charity to help the victims of rape. It does not follow that I want to discuss my rape. She didn’t ask about rape . |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 4, 2022 15:43:01 GMT
I can set up a charity to help the victims of rape. It does not follow that I want to discuss my rape. She didn’t ask about rape . Don't be so literal |
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