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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 3, 2024 6:55:04 GMT
Dont be silly hes not far-right Hes a peace loving Hindu lol. Just an ordinary guy with legitimate concerns about immigration. It's the lefties fault him and his ilk set fire to a police station. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 3, 2024 7:14:17 GMT
I've just been listening to Mishal Hussein on "Today" asking some interviewee if most of the demonstraters in Sunderland last night were EDL and should EDL be proscribed. It beggars belief how ignorant some of these BBC people are. The EDL started off as a ragbag of yobbos who liked a punch up every now and then. It gradually became more serious and morphed into an anti-islam group that questioned the teachings of islam in a western country. But most of the serious members left EDL years ago and I've no idea if the EDL even exists now.
The people who are causing the disorder in Sunderland (and Southport) are NOT far Right. They're people who are sick and tired of two-tier policing and they're people who think that we've surrendered our country to the muslims. Why is it that the muslims get away with mass hate marches and even beating up the police - but any average Brit gets kettled and beaten up by the police before they can even do anything. Why is it that we have Sharia courts all over the country - even dealing with criminal cases. And why is it that mosques get police protection. Why do muslim grooming gangs get free rein - same goes for muslim drug dealers operating in takeaways all over the country. Why have the police returned the children who were taken from the Roma in Leeds. and why have the Manchester airport thugs not been charged. Et cetera. We've given away our country without even a fight.
I'd really like to ask the loathsome Mishal Hussein one simple question. Why do you think that the only religion that causes division wherever it goes is Islam? The Christians, Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists etc seem to be able to live together with no problem. Could it be anything to do with the fact that muslims bring terrorism, crime and violence to every country they immigrate. Could it be that they openly admit that they want to bring in sharia law and take over the country. I wonder what her answer would be.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 3, 2024 7:17:39 GMT
The EDL do not exist - you can proscribe them but it would be like proscribing the National Union of Fascists. Performance politics designed to tick the box that you had done something.
But of course far easier than doing something that would actually help the situation.
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 3, 2024 7:27:30 GMT
I dont think the yobs should be proscribed but think like i said let them gather once they start unlawful order .
Arrest them and throw them into court and jail them for upto 10yrs
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 3, 2024 7:38:55 GMT
I dont think the yobs should be proscribed but think like i said let them gather once they start unlawful order . Arrest them and throw them into court and jail them for upto 10yrs So you would have thrown those who rioted during the Miners strike into jail for 10 years? |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 3, 2024 7:42:24 GMT
I dont think the yobs should be proscribed but think like i said let them gather once they start unlawful order . Arrest them and throw them into court and jail them for upto 10yrs So you would have thrown those who rioted during the Miners strike into jail for 10 years? Poll tax rioters, Gaza rioters destroying Macdonalds the last time it kicked off. I fear that the left are once again displaying their preferential authoritarian outlook. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 3, 2024 7:47:43 GMT
I dont think the yobs should be proscribed but think like i said let them gather once they start unlawful order . Arrest them and throw them into court and jail them for upto 10yrs You're as politically tin eared as "two tier" Keir, TTL. So what do think should have been done about the two Pakistani thugs who beat up two female police in Manchester TTL? Why has nothing been done. And what about the Leeds (Harehills) riots? Apply your great intellect to this, TTL. The police literally ran away and let the demonstrators cause millions of pounds worth of damage. And we hear that the cause of the riots (the removal of some children from abusive Roma parents) has been reversed. The police have returned them. Who has been charged? Why are "ethnics" (muslims etc) given carte blanche to do whatever they like? Answer that. Should they also be slung in jail for 10 years? |
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Post by Hutchyns on Aug 3, 2024 8:15:25 GMT
steppenwolf
Can you inform us where you read/heard that there was any suggestion/accusation that the parents were abusive ? This comes as news to me, and contrary to what I read in the good old Daily Mail at the time. I'd be interested in acquainting myself with these latest facts.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 3, 2024 9:48:57 GMT
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 3, 2024 12:08:21 GMT
steppenwolf Can you inform us where you read/heard that there was any suggestion/accusation that the parents were abusive ? This comes as news to me, and contrary to what I read in the good old Daily Mail at the time. I'd be interested in acquainting myself with these latest facts. It was on Talk. So why were the police removing the children Hutchyns? And why did they then return them after they and the muslims torched the area? |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 3, 2024 12:23:31 GMT
Dan Hodges is a man with a lot of logically inconsistent views. I don't think he's very clever. The sudden outpouring of sheer anger after the Southport murders has been a long time coming. Why it suddenly came to head with this particular case I don't know. It's probably because of a sequence of atrocities that have occurred relatively recently - Nottingham, Leeds, knifing of a soldier etc etc. And then we have a black first generation immigrant attempting to slaughter a group of young girls. And crucially we then have Starmer and Cooper saying NOTHING about the events in Manchester and Leeds yet attacking those who have demonstrated after Southport. NOTE: the police did NOTHING about the crimes in Manchester and Leeds but used the full force of the law in Southport. What people don't like is two-tier policing. Consistency is required. When the muslims get away with it but whites get accused of being "far Right" it causes problems. I don't see how Starmer gets out of this mess. |
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Post by Hutchyns on Aug 3, 2024 12:34:46 GMT
steppenwolf
I'm fairly sure Talk must have accidently broadcast fake news that day Wolfie, or you misheard. But never mind.
I think the kids were removed on the Thursday or Friday to counter any attempts to include them on a flight to Romania on the Saturday (going by memory)
Why were they returned ? If your own research has drawn a blank, I doubt my attempts to find out would be any more successful. Whether Leeds Social Services gave any explanatory statements to the local media up in that part of the world I wouldn't know.
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 3, 2024 12:58:55 GMT
So basically I heard a report on Talk which gave on account of what happened - and you've got another which you cant source - and which doesn't make much sense to me.
I'm not sure why you bothered to contest what I said when you haven't got a clue what happened. Basically a riot started because some children were removed from Roma parents and a riot kicked off (mainly muslim apparently) where a vast amount of damage was done. I have yet to see that anyone was charged for this damage and the children have now been returned.
Those are the facts. Pick the bones out of that.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 3, 2024 13:00:59 GMT
...You're as politically tin eared as "two tier" Keir... "Two tier Kier". Brilliant, I'm nicking that. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 3, 2024 13:09:03 GMT
So basically I heard a report on Talk which gave on account of what happened - and you've got another which you cant source - and which doesn't make much sense to me. I'm not sure why you bothered to contest what I said when you haven't got a clue what happened. Basically a riot started because some children were removed from Roma parents and a riot kicked off (mainly muslim apparently) where a vast amount of damage was done. I have yet to see that anyone was charged for this damage and the children have now been returned. Those are the facts. Pick the bones out of that. "Twenty seven people have now been arrested in connection with disorder which broke out in the Harehills area of Leeds last month, police have said. A bus was set on fire and a police car flipped on its side as crowds gathered in the streets on 18 July. Trouble flared after four children were removed from their home and taken into emergency care over concerns they would be taken out of the UK. The children were later returned to extended family members. West Yorkshire Police said four of those arrested have been charged while another had been recalled to prison for a separate matter and remains under investigation for violent disorder." www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ngn12qz4zo |
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