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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 2, 2024 12:37:48 GMT
Page 3 - Tinculin a few posts down.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 2, 2024 12:43:10 GMT
Page 3 - Tinculin a few posts down. Oh ok. The bloke who slags this forum off on the other forum has complained once again to the owner of the forum that he slags off. So it’s only on TTLs very own thread that we can’t post about a subject he doesn’t want to be discussed. |
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Post by Hutchyns on Aug 2, 2024 12:46:42 GMT
sandypine And against that you have to balance your observation that 'We know now where we stand with Starmer, but there was always little doubt'.And grudgingly accept that as there was always little doubt, the public gave their backing to a man who would go after the far right with particular venom, rather than looking around for someone with 'unifying' qualities. Equally, you can conclude that the Labour Party selected as their Leader someone known for his venom towards the Right, ahead of bothering about 'statesmanship' or any wish to 'unify' ....... the thought of bludgeoning their enemies saw off any twaddle about 'unifying' straight away .... as Sir Keir is already amply proving ...... not that there was ever much doubt. Next step ....deport the Right to Rwanda  |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 2, 2024 12:50:39 GMT
Questioning uncontrolled immigration and multiculturalism will be considered hate speech and extreme far right soon.
The lefties will clap their soft little hands with glee
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 2, 2024 12:51:03 GMT
Several of the Shipley rioters attacked, injured and hospitalised police officers. Should they have been kicked in the head? Anyone who attacks a police officer I don't care if they are black blue green yellow or red, I don't care what religion they are, what sex they are, once you start attacking the police you've lost law and order, the fact the police are only focused on this so called fictional far-right EDL rioters they are going to be blindsided by far more radical rioters than angry frustrated white people. If you'd have stopped at law and order, I would whole heartily agree with you. Unfortunately the rest of your post reverts back to your usual "post opinion as fact", MO. Because, according to you, the EDL have gone from "law abiding citizens" to "fictional" in 24 hours. 🙃 |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 2, 2024 12:53:21 GMT
Page 3 - Tinculin a few posts down. Oh ok. The bloke who slags this forum off on the other forum has complained once again to the owner of the forum that he slags off. So it’s only on TTLs very own thread that we can’t post about a subject he doesn’t want to be discussed. He plays the poor old 'they are all picking on me card' ... winds posters up then goes whinging when it looks like he can't wriggle out the facts been thrown at him. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 2, 2024 12:53:59 GMT
Questioning uncontrolled immigration and multiculturalism will be considered hate speech and extreme far right soon. The lefties will clap their soft little hands with glee Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration. I've never seen a single post on this forum advocating it. It's just a stick that some people invented to beat people with, but there isn't anyone to beat. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 2, 2024 12:58:17 GMT
Anyone who attacks a police officer I don't care if they are black blue green yellow or red, I don't care what religion they are, what sex they are, once you start attacking the police you've lost law and order, the fact the police are only focused on this so called fictional far-right EDL rioters they are going to be blindsided by far more radical rioters than angry frustrated white people. If you'd have stopped at law and order, I would whole heartily agree with you. Unfortunately the rest of your post reverts back to your usual "post opinion as fact", MO. Because, according to you, the EDL have gone from "law abiding citizens" to "fictional" in 24 hours. 🙃 It's fictional to accuse every single angry white face in a crowd of being members of a far-right racist group, there is nothing opinion about it, haven't you seen the angry white faces insisting they have no interest no connection to any far-right racist groups, and aren't being silenced because that's what they are being labeled, how long do you think Starmer is going to fool the country by telling them the only white angry faces on the street are far-right racists.
This is why the police are leaving in their droves ..
Ex-Merseyside constable Johnathan Brown was caught on a live-stream grinning amid the mayhem, which saw a police van torched. The chaos ensued as a large group, believed to be linked to the far-right English Defence League, congregated outside a mosque, attempting to vandalise the building.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 2, 2024 13:02:25 GMT
Questioning uncontrolled immigration and multiculturalism will be considered hate speech and extreme far right soon. The lefties will clap their soft little hands with glee Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration. I've never seen a single post on this forum advocating it. It's just a stick that some people invented to beat people with, but there isn't anyone to beat. Letting in say ..a million migrants a year …wouldn’t be uncontrolled immigration . I didn’t see the strict quotas of illegal migrants coming here on dinghies either . So you don’t have much of a point there. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 2, 2024 13:09:16 GMT
I hope the imagines of the last week are being sent back to the borders of France, let's hope the dinghy people get the message loud and clear ......... ***YOU ARE NOT WELCOME TO THE UK***
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 2, 2024 13:09:56 GMT
You have no idea have youYou have not read my post, or if you have, you conveniently ignore this bit " the correct thing to then do would have been to handcuff the suspect NOT kick him in the head." How can a stunned ( Tasered ) man, laid on the floor, faced down, surrounded by police officers, pose a real or substantial threat. ?Me thinks you post nonsense Because as I demonstrated to TTL a tasered person is fully able to physically move and resume an attack. Neither you or anyone else has answered my question ( a very relevant question ) The suspect was in the ideal position to be cuffed, meaning he was laid on the floor, face down, at least partly subdued by electric shock, and surrounded by police officers. Why at that point did the officers not handcuff him ? ... It was the perfect opportunity If any of your excuses for excessive force were even remotely acceptable in defence, then why instead did one of the officers not use a trungeon instead, and hit the suspect in a a part of the body which is acceptable, and for which officers are trained to do. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 2, 2024 13:28:01 GMT
So when this incident goes to court, do you think the bench or jury will be satisfied if the prosecuting counsel simply states "the police officers approached the defendants after AN INCIDENT on board the flight". ? Do you not think that the panel, the bench or the jury will want to know how it all started ?, will the court want know the details of what precisely happened on the plane. ? Have you ever heard of the word "circumstances" or the phrase "Extenuating Circumstances" ? I refuse to pass judgement until I know all the details, but those with Tunnel Vision can ONLY see some young men attacking police officers, and are not interested in any other detail leading to that. But you just have, you said he was on the floor and was kicked when 'obviously tasered' and face down. All I am saying is that he was not apparently sufficiently tasered as he raised his head. You cannot cuff someone unless they either agree to be cuffed or are sufficiently overcome so that they cannot resist. To my mind the officer was seeking to gain an absolute upperhand so that he could assess the damage to fellow officers and then seek to control the situation. In all honesty one female officer is all it should take to make an arrest in an airport as the police are the overall law upholders and everyone should realise coming quietly is obligatory. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 2, 2024 13:29:30 GMT
Becasue the video shows he lifted his head and was obviously not stunned and tasered sufficiently So what you are saying is that because he lifted his head, the correct thing to do was therefore to kick him in the head. ? In that moment yes. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 2, 2024 13:40:49 GMT
Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration. I've never seen a single post on this forum advocating it. It's just a stick that some people invented to beat people with, but there isn't anyone to beat. 🤣 I've gotta hand it to you, Andy - you really are hitting them out of the park today! |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 2, 2024 13:43:49 GMT
Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration. I've never seen a single post on this forum advocating it. It's just a stick that some people invented to beat people with, but there isn't anyone to beat. Letting in say ..a million migrants a year …wouldn’t be uncontrolled immigration . I didn’t see the strict quotas of illegal migrants coming here on dinghies either . So you don’t have much of a point there. But no-one wants a million immigrants, do they. |
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