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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 1, 2024 12:21:50 GMT
That is just lazy, vacuous whataboutery. What BLM protestors did 3+ years ago is 1000% irrelevant to what happened in Southport. Judge the Southport incident on its own merits and flaws. The majority of the rioters were not local, they came from out of town looking for any excuse to incite racial hatred. The actual local community has rallied round not only the families affected by the horrible incident, but also those who have been completely unjustifiably attacked because of that incident. The families of those affected by the stabbings have requested a de-escalation of tensions - why would anyone ignore that request? All The Best I was pointing out you lefties hypocrisy a few posts back . It was relevant to that . If you were clever then you would have known it You have not demonstrated any hypocrisy. You have claimed it existed, but have done nothing to support that claim. For the records, I just busted your claim in my previous post. All The Best |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 12:23:03 GMT
I read most of the lefties posts on Steve’s forum at the time and I don’t recall any of them condemning BLM at the time …including you . Didn't look too hard: Link / Link All The Best Doesn’t work . |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 12:25:23 GMT
I was pointing out you lefties hypocrisy a few posts back . It was relevant to that . If you were clever then you would have known it You have not demonstrated any hypocrisy. You have claimed it existed, but have done nothing to support that claim. For the records, I just busted your claim in my previous post. All The Best You didn’t bust anything . You accused me of Whataboutery when that was not the point of my original post. My original post was to point out the leftie hypocrisy. Had you been clever then you would have known that. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 12:27:00 GMT
I'm sure it did, which is why you don't see me making excuses for them. You seem to be focused on the protesters at one place only . Is it because they were white ? I'm focusing primarily on the Southport riots because that's the subject of this thread. I condemn any and all rioters. Do you? |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 12:30:33 GMT
You can support a cause and still condemn violence done it's name. Like say supporting Brexit but condemning the murder of Jo Cox. Of course you can but that rarely happens as the cause comes umbilically attached to the violence it brings with it. One can support the EDL but one is not allowed to be removed from the violence that comes with it. One may wish to condemn the violence but the cause, as in the case of BLM, needs violence to further its cause. Not sure if your Jo Cox analogy has much traction as Brexit was a political debate whereas BLM was largely a social issue with special reference to the US and little reference to the UK No that's just doesn't follow for me. For example I am passionate about animal rights, few things make me more angry than someone harming a defenceless animal. Yet I condemn violence and intimidation from animal rights extremists. I see no hypocrisy in that. I notice you haven't abandoned your support of right wing politics despite there having been acts of far right terrorism and violence in the past. Are you a hypocrite? |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 12:30:38 GMT
You seem to be focused on the protesters at one place only . Is it because they were white ? I'm focusing primarily on the Southport riots because that's the subject of this thread. I condemn any and all rioters. Do you? Yes but I accept that there can be mitigating circumstances. I also note that there was less rioting before the multicultural experiment and certainly less concerning tensions between ethnic groups and/ or ethnic group resistance to authority . |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 12:39:43 GMT
I'm focusing primarily on the Southport riots because that's the subject of this thread. I condemn any and all rioters. Do you? Yes but I accept that there can be mitigating circumstances. I also note that there was less rioting before the multicultural experiment and certainly less concerning tensions between ethnic groups and/ or ethnic group resistance to authority . Perhaps there were mitigating circumstances? |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 12:45:43 GMT
Yes but I accept that there can be mitigating circumstances. I also note that there was less rioting before the multicultural experiment and certainly less concerning tensions between ethnic groups and/ or ethnic group resistance to authority . Perhaps there were mitigating circumstances? What were they? |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 1, 2024 13:02:10 GMT
Didn't look too hard: Link / Link All The Best Doesn’t work . Both work fine for me. Had you been clever you could have figured it out. All The Best |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 13:09:56 GMT
Perhaps there were mitigating circumstances? What were they? You tell me, you're the one who introduced mitigating circumstances into the subject. Growing up I remember the miners strikes and poll tax riots. A quick Google search will show that there were riots in Britain long, long before the period you referenced in your previous post. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 13:10:22 GMT
Both work fine for me. Had you been clever you could have figured it out. All The Best If you had been clever you would have realised why I posted the original post . You accused me of Whataboutery but still haven’t admitted that you were wrong . So you failed before you began . If you had been even more clever you would have provided a link that worked . If you had been as clever as you think you are then you would have realised I don’t have to figure out your links . |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 1, 2024 13:10:51 GMT
Of course you can but that rarely happens as the cause comes umbilically attached to the violence it brings with it. One can support the EDL but one is not allowed to be removed from the violence that comes with it. One may wish to condemn the violence but the cause, as in the case of BLM, needs violence to further its cause. Not sure if your Jo Cox analogy has much traction as Brexit was a political debate whereas BLM was largely a social issue with special reference to the US and little reference to the UK No that's just doesn't follow for me. For example I am passionate about animal rights, few things make me more angry than someone harming a defenceless animal. Yet I condemn violence and intimidation from animal rights extremists. I see no hypocrisy in that. I notice you haven't abandoned your support of right wing politics despite there having been acts of far right terrorism and violence in the past. Are you a hypocrite? BLM came with violence and aggression from the outset. To say otherwise is just being blind. What RW politics do I support? |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 13:12:23 GMT
No that's just doesn't follow for me. For example I am passionate about animal rights, few things make me more angry than someone harming a defenceless animal. Yet I condemn violence and intimidation from animal rights extremists. I see no hypocrisy in that. I notice you haven't abandoned your support of right wing politics despite there having been acts of far right terrorism and violence in the past. Are you a hypocrite? BLM came with violence and aggression from the outset. To say otherwise is just being blind. What RW politics do I support? Are you saying that every single supporter of BLM has committed acts of violence? Are you saying you don't support any sort of RW politics? So are you LW? |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 13:12:47 GMT
Both work fine for me. Had you been clever you could have figured it out. All The Best If you had been clever you would have realised why I posted the original post . You accused me of Whataboutery but still haven’t admitted that you were wrong . So you failed before you began . If you had been even more clever you would have provided a link that worked . If you had been as clever as you think you are then you would have realised I don’t have to figure out your links . The link worked for me. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 1, 2024 13:15:10 GMT
BLM came with violence and aggression from the outset. To say otherwise is just being blind. What RW politics do I support? Are you saying that every single supporter of BLM has committed acts of violence? Are you saying you don't support any sort of RW politics? So are you LW? I am asking what RW politics I support? |
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