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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 11:27:31 GMT
How does bringing more violence help a community scarred and still grieving from an act of horrific violence? Does a mob gathered ( during lockdown)because of an incident that happened in another continent help the community where it happened? Nope but it was a imported political act anyway. No it doesn't, that's why I condemn BLM rioters as well. Consistency, it's not difficult once you give it a bit of practice
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 11:28:03 GMT
I don't think the BLM rioters helped rebuild the damage they caused, but you don't see me making excuses for them either, they are violent lawless scum just like Southport rioters. It's called a moral centre. The Southport rioters didn't help rebuild the damage they caused either. Didn’t see you condemn it at the time . I wasn't on this forum then.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 11:28:10 GMT
Rioters prevented us from going to Southport vigil, say local family A Southport family has said they were deterred from going to a vigil for the young victims of a stabbing attack due to violence from suspected far-right rioters in the local area. Gemma Taylor and her children Sebastian, 10, and Evelyn, seven, helped clear up debris near the mosque a day after the disorder. The family said they live a short distance from where the violence erupted. Sebastian said: “We were sweeping up bricks and metal and bottles and we were sweeping up burnt pieces of bins which had been on fire.” www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/southport-stabbing-vigil-riot-mosque-attack-b2588972.htmlIt looks to me like the rioters were revelling in the deaths of those poor kids. I suspect the very dark Romas who burnt the buses in Leeds stopped a lot of people from getting to where they wanted to go.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 11:28:54 GMT
Didn’t see you condemn it at the time . I wasn't on this forum then. I didn’t see you condemn it on any forum .
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Post by sandypine on Aug 1, 2024 11:31:02 GMT
Does a mob gathered ( during lockdown)because of an incident that happened in another continent help the community where it happened? Nope but it was a imported political act anyway. No it doesn't, that's why I condemn BLM rioters as well. Consistency, it's not difficult once you give it a bit of practice But our future PM got down on one knee to show his support for the movement which included many of the riots and it is 'the left in general' that are the problem.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 11:31:50 GMT
Rioters prevented us from going to Southport vigil, say local family A Southport family has said they were deterred from going to a vigil for the young victims of a stabbing attack due to violence from suspected far-right rioters in the local area. Gemma Taylor and her children Sebastian, 10, and Evelyn, seven, helped clear up debris near the mosque a day after the disorder. The family said they live a short distance from where the violence erupted. Sebastian said: “We were sweeping up bricks and metal and bottles and we were sweeping up burnt pieces of bins which had been on fire.” www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/southport-stabbing-vigil-riot-mosque-attack-b2588972.htmlIt looks to me like the rioters were revelling in the deaths of those poor kids. I suspect the very dark Romas who burnt the buses in Leeds stopped a lot of people from getting to where they wanted to go. I'm sure it did, which is why you don't see me making excuses for them.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 11:32:41 GMT
I wasn't on this forum then. I didn’t see you condemn it on any forum . Did you read every comment I post on every forum?
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 11:35:38 GMT
No it doesn't, that's why I condemn BLM rioters as well. Consistency, it's not difficult once you give it a bit of practice But our future PM got down on one knee to show his support for the movement which included many of the riots and it is 'the left in general' that are the problem. You can support a cause and still condemn violence done it's name. Like say supporting Brexit but condemning the murder of Jo Cox.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 11:36:09 GMT
I didn’t see you condemn it on any forum . Did you read every comment I post on every forum? I read most of the lefties posts on Steve’s forum at the time and I don’t recall any of them condemning BLM at the time …including you .
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 11:37:26 GMT
I suspect the very dark Romas who burnt the buses in Leeds stopped a lot of people from getting to where they wanted to go. I'm sure it did, which is why you don't see me making excuses for them. You seem to be focused on the protesters at one place only . Is it because they were white ?
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 11:38:17 GMT
But our future PM got down on one knee to show his support for the movement which included many of the riots and it is 'the left in general' that are the problem. You can support a cause and still condemn violence done it's name. Like say supporting Brexit but condemning the murder of Jo Cox. Was Jo Cox murdered in the name of Brexit ?
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Post by sandypine on Aug 1, 2024 11:47:50 GMT
But our future PM got down on one knee to show his support for the movement which included many of the riots and it is 'the left in general' that are the problem. You can support a cause and still condemn violence done it's name. Like say supporting Brexit but condemning the murder of Jo Cox. Of course you can but that rarely happens as the cause comes umbilically attached to the violence it brings with it. One can support the EDL but one is not allowed to be removed from the violence that comes with it. One may wish to condemn the violence but the cause, as in the case of BLM, needs violence to further its cause. Not sure if your Jo Cox analogy has much traction as Brexit was a political debate whereas BLM was largely a social issue with special reference to the US and little reference to the UK
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 1, 2024 12:02:31 GMT
How does bringing more violence help a community scarred and still grieving from an act of horrific violence? Does a mob gathered ( during lockdown)because of an incident that happened in another continent help the community where it happened? Nope but it was a imported political act anyway. That is just lazy, vacuous whataboutery. What BLM protestors did 3+ years ago is 1000% irrelevant to what happened in Southport. Judge the Southport incident on its own merits and flaws. The majority of the rioters were not local, they came from out of town looking for any excuse to incite racial hatred. The actual local community has rallied round not only the families affected by the horrible incident, but also those who have been completely unjustifiably attacked because of that incident. The families of those affected by the stabbings have requested a de-escalation of tensions - why would anyone ignore that request? All The Best
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 12:10:07 GMT
Does a mob gathered ( during lockdown)because of an incident that happened in another continent help the community where it happened? Nope but it was a imported political act anyway. That is just lazy, vacuous whataboutery. What BLM protestors did 3+ years ago is 1000% irrelevant to what happened in Southport. Judge the Southport incident on its own merits and flaws. The majority of the rioters were not local, they came from out of town looking for any excuse to incite racial hatred. The actual local community has rallied round not only the families affected by the horrible incident, but also those who have been completely unjustifiably attacked because of that incident. The families of those affected by the stabbings have requested a de-escalation of tensions - why would anyone ignore that request? All The Best I was pointing out you lefties hypocrisy a few posts back . It was relevant to that . If you were clever then you would have known it
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 1, 2024 12:20:43 GMT
Did you read every comment I post on every forum? I read most of the lefties posts on Steve’s forum at the time and I don’t recall any of them condemning BLM at the time …including you . Didn't look too hard: Link / Link All The Best
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