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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 29, 2024 12:29:10 GMT
Labour always knew what the problem was in the NHS, they knew it wasn't under funding, they knew it was gross mismanagement, but using that truth wasn't going to win them the election.
Streeting was under no illusions that the problems in the NHS was not under funding, but the gross mismanagement of where that money is going, given the fact he knows what the problem is, just like the Tories did, he needs to address it before Labour plough tons more tax payers money in to it, when it is clearly not fit for purpose.
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Post by aristaeus on Jul 29, 2024 12:40:07 GMT
The hospital project has been scaled back because there was a £20bn black hole the tories had covered up.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 29, 2024 12:41:28 GMT
The hospital project has been scaled back because there was a £20bn black hole the tories had covered up. 🤣 |
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Post by aristaeus on Jul 29, 2024 13:22:44 GMT
The hospital project has been scaled back because there was a £20bn black hole the tories had covered up. 🤣 Wow. Good comeback. /slow handclap |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 29, 2024 13:27:27 GMT
Wow. Good comeback. /slow handclap It was the only appropriate response to your post ....... LOL  |
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Post by aristaeus on Jul 29, 2024 13:30:10 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 29, 2024 13:33:25 GMT
And you believe her ....... LOL |
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Post by aristaeus on Jul 29, 2024 13:47:12 GMT
And you believe her ....... LOL Yes. a) The Tories - Johnson, Truss, Sunak - have been notoriously bad when it comes to public finances. b) why would they scrap some investment projects they had planned to do if they didn't need to? |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 29, 2024 13:47:48 GMT
With regards to the NHS, it does seem to have a problem with productivity every time it gets more money. During the Blair years when it had a large increase in funding productivity fell - the same happened under Johnson, a massive increase in funding and it's now doing less work than it did before. Wes Streeting is making some good noises but it remains to be seen whether he will be allowed to deliver. Labour Health Ministers not having a good record at reform - to many vested interests in the Party. The problem with more money for public services is that it doesn't go into the front line. The reason that productivity falls with every funding uplift is because it gets spent on extra tiers of self-serving, parasitic middle management while the front line remains under-resourced while suffering an increased bureaucratic burden courtesy of the extra "Management". That is because things are being invented that are nothing to do with healthcare and everything to do with political agendas. The Equality act 2010 required a whole new tier of management to assess compliance of each department to the Public Sector Equality duty. This took up everyone else's time as they fiddled with training schemes to help 'underrepresented groups' and engaged with health professionals to seek better ways to enable underrepresented groups. Gone were the days of seeking a cardiologist, advertising, interviewing and selecting. Each post had to see what groups were underrepresented from records held by Equality managers, then seek out possible training options of currently unqualified staff, report back to the Equality manager the options for his approval, organise targeted training, hope retraining works, interview staff and realise you have to select one from a poor selection with all the knock effects of inefficiency, but targets met, tick. DEI programmes have helped to create yet another tier of record keeping and measuring and individuals with ties and clipboards being exceptionally efficient at doing very little. The questionaires that are heaped upon patients are quite prolific. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 29, 2024 13:51:36 GMT
The problem with more money for public services is that it doesn't go into the front line. The reason that productivity falls with every funding uplift is because it gets spent on extra tiers of self-serving, parasitic middle management while the front line remains under-resourced while suffering an increased bureaucratic burden courtesy of the extra "Management". That is because things are being invented that are nothing to do with healthcare and everything to do with political agendas. The Equality act 2010 required a whole new tier of management to assess compliance of each department to the Public Sector Equality duty. This took up everyone else's time as they fiddled with training schemes to help 'underrepresented groups' and engaged with health professionals to seek better ways to enable underrepresented groups. Gone were the days of seeking a cardiologist, advertising, interviewing and selecting. Each post had to see what groups were underrepresented from records held by Equality managers, then seek out possible training options of currently unqualified staff, report back to the Equality manager the options for his approval, organise targeted training, hope retraining works, interview staff and realise you have to select one from a poor selection with all the knock effects of inefficiency, but targets met, tick. DEI programmes have helped to create yet another tier of record keeping and measuring and individuals with ties and clipboards being exceptionally efficient at doing very little. The questionaires that are heaped upon patients are quite prolific. Exactly. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 29, 2024 13:55:17 GMT
The "Black hole" being the matter of public record that she failed to take into account. Or was just lying about. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 29, 2024 13:59:51 GMT
The "Black hole" being the matter of public record that she failed to take into account. Or was just lying about. I wonder how many times this big bad £20bn black hole is going to be used as a excuse by Labour why they can't deliver what they promised FFS. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 14:47:27 GMT
The hospital project has been scaled back because there was a £20bn black hole the tories had covered up. You believe that do you? Public finances are a matter of record and both government and opposition have access to those figures from the Treasury at any time. You can blame Milibrain for over £11 billion of the black hole which he has decided to spend on overseas net zero aid. They could scrap that for a start. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 29, 2024 15:23:54 GMT
The "Black hole" being the matter of public record that she failed to take into account. Or was just lying about. I wonder how many times this big bad £20bn black hole is going to be used as a excuse by Labour why they can't deliver what they promised FFS. Every time, I'd imagine. In between blaming the Tories and Mrs T. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 29, 2024 15:33:36 GMT
I wonder how many times this big bad £20bn black hole is going to be used as a excuse by Labour why they can't deliver what they promised FFS. Every time, I'd imagine. In between blaming the Tories and Mrs T. LOL ... |
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