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Post by Totheleft on Jul 25, 2024 18:57:43 GMT
He wasnt cuffed he was on he floor with his arms spread above his head .
His mother sat at the side of him .
He wasnt a danger.
Put the officer kicked and then stamp on his head
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 25, 2024 18:59:36 GMT
I don't know every single detail. I do know, from experience in a training situation, that with your hands cuffed behind your back and laying face down on the ground, it is almost impossible to get back up again. A person so restrained... But the first question is: Was he? And, BTW, did you used to be a cop in Derbyshire perchance? The video shows him on the ground with his hands cuffed behind his back. No, I was part of a Mil-Sim Airsoft Group that acted as "bad guys" for a Police Armed Response Unit training day. All The Best |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 25, 2024 19:06:39 GMT
What part were they lying about ? |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 25, 2024 19:09:18 GMT
What part were they lying about ? They was a threat to take there guns . |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 25, 2024 19:12:41 GMT
What part were they lying about ? They was a threat to take there guns . Mr Burnham told BBC Radio Manchester he had seen "the full footage" that showed a "fast-moving and complicated situation in a challenging location – it’s not clear cut". Is Burnham lying ? |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 25, 2024 19:15:45 GMT
They was a threat to take there guns . Mr Burnham told BBC Radio Manchester he had seen "the full footage" that showed a "fast-moving and complicated situation in a challenging location – it’s not clear cut". Is Burnham lying ? He not mentioned out about a threat to guns being taken |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 25, 2024 19:18:41 GMT
He wasnt cuffed he was on he floor with his arms spread above his head . His mother sat at the side of him . He wasnt a danger. Put the officer kicked and then stamp on his head No, I watched it quite carefully, his right arm was by his side and his left arm was unable to be seen. It is obvious the police officer was giving him instruction as regard putting his hands behind his back and he was not complying and thus constituted a danger to the officer and his colleagues. Bearing in mind what happened to Sergeant Ratana in a police station and another colleague stabbed during an arrest with both dying and considering it was already a violent incident then compliance immediately was imperative. Both of teh above were of course were not a danger. Lessons are often learnt the hard way. |
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Post by wapentake on Jul 25, 2024 19:21:16 GMT
He wasnt cuffed he was on he floor with his arms spread above his head . His mother sat at the side of him . He wasnt a danger. Put the officer kicked and then stamp on his head First off a cyst is not an abscess,secondly why are the police scum you and others are the first to say people jump to conclusions without seeing all the evidence,have you seen all the evidence? That’ll be a no then. GMP are saying all the evidence has not been seen those ready to riot have already to jumped to conclusions many in order to create disorder the truth probably lies somewhere in between. You purport to be a labour supporter Burnham the labour mayor has he called the police scum or has he presented something different. Perhaps if you are ever in need of their help you might regret the scum comment,yes there are some bad apples that’s because they’re human like the rest of us. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 25, 2024 19:21:53 GMT
Mr Burnham told BBC Radio Manchester he had seen "the full footage" that showed a "fast-moving and complicated situation in a challenging location – it’s not clear cut". Is Burnham lying ? He not mentioned out about a threat to guns being taken He said it was not clear cut . Unless you are very thick you would realise that meant that there were possibly some mitigating circumstances . |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 25, 2024 19:28:46 GMT
He wasnt cuffed he was on he floor with his arms spread above his head . His mother sat at the side of him . He wasnt a danger. Put the officer kicked and then stamp on his head No, I watched it quite carefully, his right arm was by his side and his left arm was unable to be seen. It is obvious the police officer was giving him instruction as regard putting his hands behind his back and he was not complying and thus constituted a danger to the officer and his colleagues. Bearing in mind what happened to Sergeant Ratana in a police station and another colleague stabbed during an arrest with both dying and considering it was already a violent incident then compliance immediately was imperative. Both of teh above were of course were not a danger. Lessons are often learnt the hard way. I watched it several times his hands are spread out above his head 2 police officers with tazers pointing at him . The victims mother distort at the side of him .he was no treat at all. If you watched the video so carefully you would of seen another man lent on the floor being kicked in the stomach . By a different police officer. There was nothing but police brutes |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 25, 2024 19:31:26 GMT
He not mentioned out about a threat to guns being taken He said it was not clear cut . Unless you are very thick you would realise that meant that there were possibly some mitigating circumstances . Yes naybe aboutthe police wonan being punched and getting a broken knose . |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 25, 2024 19:38:09 GMT
He said it was not clear cut . Unless you are very thick you would realise that meant that there were possibly some mitigating circumstances . Yes naybe aboutthe police wonan being punched and getting a broken knose . And this “build-up to the incident shown in the clip, a police spokesman said that firearms officers had been punched to the ground after trying to make an arrest following a fight in the airport” |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 25, 2024 19:40:00 GMT
No, I watched it quite carefully, his right arm was by his side and his left arm was unable to be seen. It is obvious the police officer was giving him instruction as regard putting his hands behind his back and he was not complying and thus constituted a danger to the officer and his colleagues. Bearing in mind what happened to Sergeant Ratana in a police station and another colleague stabbed during an arrest with both dying and considering it was already a violent incident then compliance immediately was imperative. Both of teh above were of course were not a danger. Lessons are often learnt the hard way. I watched it several times his hands are spread out above his head 2 police officers with tazers pointing at him . The victims mother distort at the side of him .he was no treat at all. If you watched the video so carefully you would of seen another man lent on the floor being kicked in the stomach . By a different police officer. There was nothing but police brutes Then I suggest you watch it again as the right hand is clearly down by his side before the kick and the left hand is not visible. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 25, 2024 19:55:13 GMT
He wasnt cuffed he was on he floor with his arms spread above his head . His mother sat at the side of him . He wasnt a danger. Put the officer kicked and then stamp on his head No, I watched it quite carefully, his right arm was by his side and his left arm was unable to be seen. It is obvious the police officer was giving him instruction as regard putting his hands behind his back and he was not complying and thus constituted a danger to the officer and his colleagues. Bearing in mind what happened to Sergeant Ratana in a police station and another colleague stabbed during an arrest with both dying and considering it was already a violent incident then compliance immediately was imperative. Both of teh above were of course were not a danger. Lessons are often learnt the hard way. How is that "obvious"? He was looking at the PO when the kick was incoming, if his arms were not already restrained in someway the almost overwhelming natural reaction would have been to protect his head with his arms. His arms don't even move. That suggests they were already restrained somehow, or he was already semi-conscious (highly likely if he had already been tazered) and so unable to defend himself. Which seems to be borne out by the fact his mother had to shield his head with her hand / arm. Of course, if he was semi-conscious from being tazered that would explain why he was unable to comply with an, alleged, instruction to put his hands behind his back. Bottom line is that unless there was an immediate and credible threat to public life that Police Officer's actions were way out of line. Hence the reason he has been suspended from ALL duties, not confined to desk duty, fully suspended. All The Best |
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Post by wapentake on Jul 25, 2024 19:56:55 GMT
No, I watched it quite carefully, his right arm was by his side and his left arm was unable to be seen. It is obvious the police officer was giving him instruction as regard putting his hands behind his back and he was not complying and thus constituted a danger to the officer and his colleagues. Bearing in mind what happened to Sergeant Ratana in a police station and another colleague stabbed during an arrest with both dying and considering it was already a violent incident then compliance immediately was imperative. Both of teh above were of course were not a danger. Lessons are often learnt the hard way. I watched it several times his hands are spread out above his head 2 police officers with tazers pointing at him . The victims mother distort at the side of him .he was no treat at all. If you watched the video so carefully you would of seen another man lent on the floor being kicked in the stomach . By a different police officer. There was nothing but police brutes It’s funny TTL that on another thread you stated I hope if that man dies Copper never gets released (or words to that effect) you spout everything you accuse others of,as I’ve already said the real truth probably stands between the two extremes of views on this being spouted in the media and elsewhere. If anyone else posted on here such things as you have you’d be frothing at the mouth that it is disgusting people pre judging before all the evidence has been seen yet here you are. |
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