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Post by bancroft on Jul 29, 2024 19:14:29 GMT
Just like they shot that guy Chris Kaba Though the windows . Talk about mob rule Oh yeah I remember him Chopsy black gangster who thought he could ram a firearms car forming part of a Roadblock. His relatives were a bunch of chopsy bastards who shut the fuck up once the body can footage became available. About time we had more of this What the shooters do is if the police are on to them they throw the gun out of the window knowing someone who picks it up will sell it. Now when the road block stops them, there is trouble if the police shoot as he has got rid of the gun. Now if the police wait until they see the gun they are normally ok, however some don't.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 29, 2024 19:46:15 GMT
Rather than a 'quick scan' you need to read the IOPC report on the Williams-Dos Santos affair, paying particular attention to the manner in evidence from the 'victims' was simply read into the record as opposed to evidence from the police which was rigorously cross-examined.
A means of obtaining the report is included in the thread, but your quick scan obviously passed over it.
Come back with further questions when you've actually read it.
So that will show one case, right? Did the Police Officers involved lodge an appeal? Was that appeal successful and the charges against them overturned? Because without that there is no real evidence the IOPC is "anti police". Just that it delivered a result you didn't like. Is a single case proof that the IOPC "anti-police"? If so, surely the Manchester Airport incident is proof that all the police are out of control thugs? I don't happen to think that is the case; I think it far more likely that one Police Officer over-reacted in the heat of the moment, and rather than realising his error of judgement, he went on to repeat it. Now, let me go on record. I think the penalties for attacking the Police, and other Emergency Services as they go about their duties should be MUCH more severe. But that needs to happen through Due Process. Not though some out of control thug laying the boot into an an already subdued suspect. But I also think that the penalties for a Police Officer doing what was just done - if it is found to be GBH - need to be as harsh as the law permits as well. We need to seriously disincentivise both criminals and rogue Police. All The Best It doesn't sound as though you have done as I suggested so at this stage there is no reason to continue this dialogue.
As for the two police officers who were stitched up by the IOPC, I understand they have appealed and the appeal will be heard in October.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 30, 2024 6:43:21 GMT
Oh yeah I remember him Chopsy black gangster who thought he could ram a firearms car forming part of a Roadblock. His relatives were a bunch of chopsy bastards who shut the fuck up once the body can footage became available. About time we had more of this What the shooters do is if the police are on to them they throw the gun out of the window knowing someone who picks it up will sell it. Now when the road block stops them, there is trouble if the police shoot as he has got rid of the gun. Now if the police wait until they see the gun they are normally ok, however some don't. Oh I know, from personal experience Had the weirdest thing happen ever about fifteen years ago Driving down the A48 Eastern Avenue first this car comes past driving like a maniac even by MY standards chucking stuff out of the windows into the hedgerows followed by an unmarked car and a copper on a bike All they achieved was the total closure of the road for the next 48 hours while fingertip searchers recovered the street meth and the gun they'd chucked (according to the local paper) We saved an absolute fortune on the trial and jail cell cleaning though. They came up the roundabout by the hospital at well over a ton and bogged it, piled into the crash barrier and all the police had to do was scrape up the mess.
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Post by Dogburger on Jul 30, 2024 7:01:49 GMT
You forgot to reply to my post . What do you think would have happened if the police had not given the Pakistani thug a shoeing ? Dont thinks the race of the victims matter. That doesn't really answer the question . It doesn't specifically matter but it has to be mentioned as it's the Pakistani community that's protesting about the thug that lives in their community being arrested . Its the Pakistani community that will continue to protest until their thug is cleared of assault on Police officers and given compo for losing the fight he started and the Pakistani community that's only focus will be on the kick that ended the violent altercation while they ignore all that went before it . The problem is mob rule , ethnic communities in particular that believe if they protest loud enough and long enough they will get 'justice' as they see it not as the laws of the United Kingdom does
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Post by Orac on Jul 30, 2024 8:55:19 GMT
Dont thinks the race of the victims matter. The problem is mob rule , ethnic communities in particular that believe if they protest loud enough and long enough they will get 'justice' as they see it not as the laws of the United Kingdom does they believe that because we tell them that with our supine behavior. They are just following a self interest algorithm - the same parasitic algorithm their societies have employed for centuries If we properly confronted the street mobs, topped their violence and put lots of them in traction, it would stop. The problem is our 'government' doesn't appear to want civilisation to win
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 30, 2024 9:04:52 GMT
The problem is mob rule , ethnic communities in particular that believe if they protest loud enough and long enough they will get 'justice' as they see it not as the laws of the United Kingdom does they believe that because we tell them that with our supine behavior. They are just following a self interest algorithm - the same parasitic algorithm their societies have employed for centuries If we properly confronted the street mobs, topped their violence and put lots of them in traction, it would stop. The problem is our 'government' doesn't appear to want civilisation to win It's divide and conquer and they're all for it because they think they can control the resultant mess. And history tells us that they're wrong.
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Post by wapentake on Jul 30, 2024 9:08:09 GMT
That doesn't really answer the question . It doesn't specifically matter but it has to be mentioned as it's the Pakistani community that's protesting about the thug that lives in their community being arrested . Its the Pakistani community that will continue to protest until their thug is cleared of assault on Police officers and given compo for losing the fight he started and the Pakistani community that's only focus will be on the kick that ended the violent altercation while they ignore all that went before it . The problem is mob rule , ethnic communities in particular that believe if they protest loud enough and long enough they will get 'justice' as they see it not as the laws of the United Kingdom does Excellent summary of the situation,I would only add that when TTL says this Because he only sees them as victims not the perpetrators of the violence that occurred so the police officers injured initially were not victims at all but white racists scum and thugs.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 30, 2024 11:16:03 GMT
You forgot to reply to my post . What do you think would have happened if the police had not given the Pakistani thug a shoeing ? Dont thinks the race of the victims matter. It does to these doofus
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Post by om15 on Aug 1, 2024 16:46:39 GMT
I have just watched a utube clip about where we are with this, the violent psychopathic pakistani who repeatedly punched police officers in a frenzy has not been charged with any crime and the police officer who was stunned by the attack and made an error of judgement is suspended and possibly facing criminal charges.
And Starmer wonders why we are rapidly approaching a civil war on the streets. The ruling classes have always had an easy ride in this country compared to France, Italy and other Countries, perhaps that is coming to an end.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 2, 2024 6:27:57 GMT
I do hope so. I think injecting some fear into them may do some good.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 4, 2024 16:50:46 GMT
I have just watched a utube clip about where we are with this, the violent psychopathic pakistani who repeatedly punched police officers in a frenzy has not been charged with any crime and the police officer who was stunned by the attack and made an error of judgement is suspended and possibly facing criminal charges. And Starmer wonders why we are rapidly approaching a civil war on the streets. The ruling classes have always had an easy ride in this country compared to France, Italy and other Countries, perhaps that is coming to an end. This has just been mentioned on the programme I'm watching on GB News. On 23 July police officers were violently assaulted at Manchester airport, and a fortnight later the Pakistani assailants have still not been charged. Lets have a show of hands. How many people think the assailants would have been charged almost immediately, if they were white? And some people say we do not have two tier policing, lol.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 4, 2024 17:08:57 GMT
This is the classic case - after launching an unprovoked attack on the Police which put a copper in hospital, the local Labour MP went round to the family to show his sympathy for them because they got hurt in the ensuing fracas.
Can you imagine any Labour MP (or any MP) doing the same for any of the white protestors hurt during the recent violence.
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 4, 2024 17:27:16 GMT
I have just watched a utube clip about where we are with this, the violent psychopathic pakistani who repeatedly punched police officers in a frenzy has not been charged with any crime and the police officer who was stunned by the attack and made an error of judgement is suspended and possibly facing criminal charges. And Starmer wonders why we are rapidly approaching a civil war on the streets. The ruling classes have always had an easy ride in this country compared to France, Italy and other Countries, perhaps that is coming to an end. This has just been mentioned on the programme I'm watching on GB News. On 23 July police officers were violently assaulted at Manchester airport, and a fortnight later the Pakistani assailants have still not been charged. Lets have a show of hands. How many people think the assailants would have been charged almost immediately, if they were white? And some people say we do not have two tier policing, lol. Greater Manchester Police has issued an update on the men arrested at Manchester Airport after a video emerged appearing to show a police officer kicking and stamping on a man's head as he lay on the ground. The incident on July 23 sparked a number of protests across our region. But a number of public figures, and those involved in the incident themselves, have appealed for 'calm'. Today (August 2), the force has addressed 'speculation' swirling in the wake of the high profile case. Police say that all four men arrested during the scenes seen on video remain on police bail, with a live investigation 'very much ongoing'. "We are aware of speculation circulating about the case involving four men arrested at Manchester Airport on 23/07/2024," read a statement issued this evening by GMP. "This is a current live investigation and all four men remain on police bail. Enquiries are very much ongoing in relation to all aspects of this incident." New footage also came last week from inside Manchester Airport of the chaotic moments before a Greater Manchester Police officer was captured appearing to kick a man in the head in a viral video. The exclusive footage, which the Manchester Evening News obtained, is believed to capture the lead-up to the incident which has sparked controversy and protests since it emerged on social media. T
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 4, 2024 17:59:51 GMT
Greater Manchester Police has issued an update on the men arrested at Manchester Airport after a video emerged appearing to show a police officer kicking and stamping on a man's head as he lay on the ground. The incident on July 23 sparked a number of protests across our region. But a number of public figures, and those involved in the incident themselves, have appealed for 'calm'. Today (August 2), the force has addressed 'speculation' swirling in the wake of the high profile case. Police say that all four men arrested during the scenes seen on video remain on police bail, with a live investigation 'very much ongoing'. "We are aware of speculation circulating about the case involving four men arrested at Manchester Airport on 23/07/2024," read a statement issued this evening by GMP. "This is a current live investigation and all four men remain on police bail. Enquiries are very much ongoing in relation to all aspects of this incident." New footage also came last week from inside Manchester Airport of the chaotic moments before a Greater Manchester Police officer was captured appearing to kick a man in the head in a viral video. The exclusive footage, which the Manchester Evening News obtained, is believed to capture the lead-up to the incident which has sparked controversy and protests since it emerged on social media. Not entirely sure why you posted that TTL, it changes nothing. The fact remains, two weeks after police were violently assaulted the assailants remain uncharged. And the reason, the one and only reason they haven't been charged is because they're Pakistanis. Had they been white, then by now they would have been arrested, charged, put before the court, found guilty and banged up for five years.
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 4, 2024 18:09:30 GMT
Ive seen footage of the police officer smacking the Guys head against the car park vending machine .
Before the Assault on the police officers.
Not saying there was any reason for the mayam that followed .
But the police officers did start it all.
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