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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 28, 2024 7:50:20 GMT
If the bent copper had just handcuffed him after he tasered him no more will be said .he broke police conduct and the law of the land . Dont forget he went and kicked another man in the stomach. Okay, fair enough. But let's not forget the original perpetrator broke the 'law of the land' by resisting arrest and assaulting three police officers, leaving one female with a broken nose. He too should feel the full force of the law, and the copper in question should be sent on an 'anger management' course - we all know how liberals love their courses and training, so this officer could do that rather than losing his job. Although that assumes that the officer has done something wrong. Which he hasn't. |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 28, 2024 8:01:25 GMT
OK, so the young Asian men incited the incident. No one is denying that. The police rightly used force, including tasers, to subdue the aggressors. Nobody is saying that was wrong: the police did what they had to, within the bounds of the law - that is only using appropriate levels of force. But then one tasered individual, already face-down on the ground, and - as can be seen from the video - not able to defend himself (likely because he was barely conscious from being tasered) was kicked in the head, and then his head was stamped on. Both blows more than capable of causing permanent brain damage, and likely to result in a significant - but more than justifiable - compensation claim. I fail to see how anyone at all can find this last bit in anyway defensible. The office in question has IMO brought the Police Service into disrepute. What should happen? Well, this is only my opinion of course: 1) The Asian youths who kicked things off should ALL be charged with the relevant offences, and punished at the high end of whatever tariff those offences carry. 2) The Police Officer who kicked / stamped on an already subdued suspect should face the full force of the law, he should be handed down whatever the high end of the tariff is for the offences in question. The first is because we need to seriously disincentivise violence towards the Police and other Emergency Service Personnel. The second is because we need to seriously disincentivise the Police from engaging in illegal behaviour that is likely to bring the police into disrepute. ---- Many years ago one of my uncles who was serving in the RAF was on secondment to IIRC the Coldstream Guards (he got to wear the Bearskin outside of Buckingham Palace), after his last night of secondment he had a farewell party and had a little too much to drink. 24 hours later after, travelling back to his home base, he was driving home, missed a stop light, sped a little not sure which, but was pulled over and was ever so slightly over the drink drive limit. Went to court, got a 12 Month ban; on top of that the RAF decided he needed 2 months at Colchester. Because the RAF was of the opinion that those who wear a uniform in service to the country need to be held to higher standards than the everyday person on the street. Can't say I disagree. All The Best Of course they should be held to a higher standard than ordinary citizens but should also be afforded special rights if they are attacked in the course of their duty. We have a situation that took perhaps ten seconds to play out with responses from both parties and although the chap was tasered it is not clear how much risk the officer thought he continued to make and his only option was to ensure he could not respond as the man obviously lifted his head before the kick despite being told to stay down. They had resisted arrest in the first instance and it was obvious they were not going to come quietly. The experiences of Sergeant Ratana and another officer stabbed in a different incident both killed after an arrest means that police have to disable suspects with vigour most especially if they have already shown major resistance. It would not have happened if the men had cooperated with police but they decided to kick off and resist arrest and from that all else flows. |
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Post by wapentake on Jul 28, 2024 8:01:56 GMT
One police officer had suffered a suspected broken jaw,another attacked and choked from behind and a female officer suffered a rain of punches which resulted in a broken nose this all happened in seconds.
Armed officers cannot afford to be incapacitated to the point where they lose control of their weapons,in most other parts of the world including Pakistan and most of Europe because airports are high security risks would’ve seen both these men shot dead.
There are people on here who instead of waiting jumped on the bandwagon of racist police calling them scum and thugs instead of waiting to see the full picture and I guess there maybe more evidence to emerge.
Despite the mayor of their party of choice asking people not to prejudge they went ahead and did just that,mobs appeared threatening police stations and officers this is not ok you cannot allow mob justice where we demand or we will cause serious disorder,that is no justice at all.
Instead of holding their hands up and admitting they got it wrong and had only seen a part video which was used to manipulate divert blame and stoke up unrest where it appears some of the officers may have had to move address they go on their way of blaming it all on the cops because they are unwilling or unable to admit their error.
We are supposed to a civilised country not some third world ****hole where mobs dictate due process.
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Post by sandypine on Jul 28, 2024 8:06:02 GMT
One police officer had suffered a suspected broken jaw,another attacked and choked from behind and a female officer suffered a rain of punches which resulted in a broken nose this all happened in seconds. Armed officers cannot afford to be incapacitated to the point where they lose control of their weapons,in most other parts of the world including Pakistan and most of Europe because airports are high security risks would’ve seen both these men shot dead. There are people on here who instead of waiting jumped on the bandwagon of racist police calling them scum and thugs instead of waiting to see the full picture and I guess there maybe more evidence to emerge. Despite the mayor of their party of choice asking people not to prejudge they went ahead and did just that,mobs appeared threatening police stations and officers this is not ok you cannot allow mob justice where we demand or we will cause serious disorder,that is no justice at all. Instead of holding their hands up and admitting they got it wrong and had only seen a part video which was used to manipulate divert blame and stoke up unrest where it appears some of the officers may have had to move address they go on their way of blaming it all on the cops because they are unwilling or unable to admit their error. We are supposed to a civilised country not some third world ****hole where mobs dictate due process. However it does seem that that is what we have become |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 28, 2024 8:09:25 GMT
The more I see of this, the more disappointed I become in the police: They should have kicked all of these thugs in the head, including the mum. After all, in any other country they'd all have been shot, so they'd still have got off lightly. All this in a major airport, security is of the upmost importance, and this entitled lot think the law doesn't apply to them, anyone attacking a police officer should get a automatic 5 years in prison, especially at a airport, you need to feel safe and protected in places like this, any innocent bystander could have been caught up with these violent thugs, the police have NOTHING to apologise or be suspended for they were doing their job protecting the PUBLIC. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 28, 2024 8:18:27 GMT
Hopefully these thugs will get banned from all UK airports.
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Post by Orac on Jul 28, 2024 8:39:24 GMT
Interesting so one WPC caught not 3 or 4 and it looked like it was accidental from an elbow during the melee. It looks like the chap in light blue is at the drinks machine and three officers try to apprehend him from behind, there is no vocals so we don't know what warning was given. His friend in grey attacks the police trying to apprehend his friend and when the police chap goes to use a taser the chap in blue hits him from behind and jumps on him this results in him get tasered. Then unconscious the police chap kicks and stamps, he is out of control sack and a question over assault charges, for me. It looks like because he got hit he decided to make the kid pay without due consideration for the consequences. That is not police training you remain in control of your emotions. So the chap in grey is involved and is later sitting down (gap in time) and is kicked in the stomach or upper thigh and clubbed around the head with the taser butt, again this is assault, the police are meant to contain their emotions. What this does raise is whether these chaps should get any compensation as they appear to initiate the violence though without the vocals we have to wait to be sure. The other gap is the guy who gets pepper sprayed, arm lock and then a jumping head lock can't see he hit anyone. Obviously more to come yet this shows the chaps questioned have a case to answer so why did they let them go, was bail paid? They didn't feel they had control - My view is that, if the woman who ended up on the floor had been a 6 ft man, the situation would have evolved quite differently |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 28, 2024 8:39:46 GMT
'Hopefully these thugs will get banned from all UK airports.'
With the single, one-time exception of the one they are deported from. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 28, 2024 9:06:03 GMT
The Lamborghini owning lefty lawyer is backtracking now it's come to light he's facing driving charges of his own, even the lawyers are bent.
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 28, 2024 9:06:56 GMT
If the bent copper had just handcuffed him after he tasered him no more will be said .he broke police conduct and the law of the land . Dont forget he went and kicked another man in the stomach. Okay, fair enough. But let's not forget the original perpetrator broke the 'law of the land' by resisting arrest and assaulted three police officers, leaving one female with a broken nose. He too should feel the full force of the law, and the copper in question should be sent on an 'anger management' course. We all know how liberals love their courses and training, don't we. This officer should do that rather than lose his job as the liberals/mob have be calling for. And if compensation is to be paid to the headache, then Mr. headache should be shelling out compensation to the three officers he attacked. Im sure he already been on courses seeing hes a special trained armed officer. And of course them that attack the police officers should face court . And the one who broken the wpc nose face prison. But cant see any of that happening to the police officer . Slap on the wrist like you said. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2024 9:07:07 GMT
Some people can only be arrested by using violence. People can either come the easy way, or the hard way. They chose the hard way. The guy had just been tasered lay on the floor semi consuse What on earth you on about My posts are in plain English, maybe you are easily contused. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2024 9:09:56 GMT
Okay, fair enough. But let's not forget the original perpetrator broke the 'law of the land' by resisting arrest and assaulted three police officers, leaving one female with a broken nose. He too should feel the full force of the law, and the copper in question should be sent on an 'anger management' course. We all know how liberals love their courses and training, don't we. This officer should do that rather than lose his job as the liberals/mob have be calling for. And if compensation is to be paid to the headache, then Mr. headache should be shelling out compensation to the three officers he attacked. Im sure he already been on courses seeing hes a special trained armed officer. And of course them that attack the police officers should face court . And the one who broken the wpc nose face prison. But cant see any of that happening to the police officer . Slap on the wrist like you said. This is an idiotic argument. This is not a gang fight in the street where people who cause an affray should both be prosecuted. This is an attack on authority of the Crown by a bunch of thugs who should be prosecuted. It's that false moral equivalence working in the minds of the hard of understanding. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 28, 2024 9:13:42 GMT
I'd charge the thugs under the terrorism act, that level of violence in a built up public place should be deemed as terrorist, why would they think a place of high security with armed police they could get away with that level of thuggery.
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 28, 2024 9:15:59 GMT
Im sure he already been on courses seeing hes a special trained armed officer. And of course them that attack the police officers should face court . And the one who broken the wpc nose face prison. But cant see any of that happening to the police officer . Slap on the wrist like you said. This is an idiotic argument. This is not a gang fight in the street where people who cause an affray should both be prosecuted. This is an attack on authority of the Crown by a bunch of thugs who should be prosecuted. It's that false moral equivalence working in the minds of the hard of understanding. Not a gang fight but the officer left someone with life threating injurys. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 28, 2024 9:16:58 GMT
I'd charge the thugs under the terrorism act, that level of violence in a built up public place should be deemed as terrorist, why would they think a place of high security with armed police they could get away with that level of thuggery. Dont be silly |
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