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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 24, 2024 10:01:39 GMT
Are you going to andwer my question, or try to divert the isdue The riots in Leeds proved that persons not having the right to remain are living in the community. So when this boat closes and those on it are handed to those wanker councils that applaud their ‘shithole of sanctuary’ status, hiw is this not going to be a problem for the council’s legal obligation to find housing for homeless real brits ? Because like i said illegals cant have council housing. And who the real British in your book . There is no ‘council’ housing any more. Do try to keep up. And as i have repeatedly pointed out, anyone whose mother’s waters broke while one or more feet were standing on British, Colonial or Dependent Territory soil prior to Ted Heath’s Immigration Act of 1971, and that includes me, cliff richard, mahatma ghandi, and three of Eugene Terrablanche’s houseboys AND Anjem Choudhury but NOT Shemima Begum are / were entitled to apply for a dark blue british passport defining them as a ‘British Subject : Citizen Of The United Kingdom and Colonies’ or ‘British Subject : Citizen of A British Dependent Territory’ I recognise each of the above as having the same degree of Legal Britishness as me. And i’ve said on here and elsewhere many times that the Asians who had to leave Uganda in a damned hurry and whose children helped me assemble our nuclear deterrent and our over the horizon radar systems are as British as me because their grandfathers or great grandfathers were subjects of King George V or VI depending on their date and place of birth and took up His Imperial Majesty George V’s command to leave the country of their birth (India) and travel to Africa, there to take up posts in His Majesty’s colonial government and administer his interests in those imperial concerns in his name. It is that fact, and their consequent status as British Subjects that admitted them to List X status to work on those systems without the interminable fucking about and digging that had to be done to get a Frenchman allowed to see how those systems functioned. But i love using the term ‘real’ brit to wind oeopke like you and Pro Veritas up. Of course, in those days anyone abusing this legal status as Choudhury has done would be strung up for it |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 24, 2024 10:04:32 GMT
Labour are removing policies that deter illegal migrants, firstly the Rwanda scheme had illegals in France popping champagne corks when Labour won. Now scrapping the Bibby Stockholm the migrants will be punching the air again, so what are Labour going to put in place to deter the arrivals of illegals? I'll tell you ...... FUCK ALL. They are encouraging them even more, everyone knew exactly what Labour would do over the illegal migrant crossing ...... and they haven't disappointed us so far. We need sensible, effective and less costly ways to tackle the boats crisis And what are your proposals? It's easy to pick holes in anything, but what are your alternatives? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 24, 2024 10:13:28 GMT
Because like i said illegals cant have council housing. And who the real British in your book . There is no ‘council’ housing any more. Do try to keep up. There is, but it depends on the local authority. For example Birmingham City Council still owns 59,000 council houses, but Coventry nil. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 24, 2024 10:38:19 GMT
Are you going to andwer my question, or try to divert the isdue The riots in Leeds proved that persons not having the right to remain are living in the community. So when this boat closes and those on it are handed to those wanker councils that applaud their ‘shithole of sanctuary’ status, hiw is this not going to be a problem for the council’s legal obligation to find housing for homeless real brits ? Because like i said illegals cant have council housing. Since when? 'Eligibility for asylum support is restricted to asylum seekers and their dependants as defined in section 94(1) of the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999.' |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 24, 2024 10:44:22 GMT
Labour will follow true to form and cause Civil Unrest, when people who were born and bred in this country have been waiting on the housing list for years for accommodation and along comes the illegals who just waltz in to these vacant properties, you can guarantee the locals are going to kick off.
Instantly you are putting these illegals in hostile situations, and it's not people are racist and the colour of their skin and foreign accents, because if it was white Americans doing the same thing they would get the same reaction from the locals, people are cheesed off with becoming second class citizens in their own Country, and so far Labour are quite happy making them feel that way.
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Post by wapentake on Jul 24, 2024 12:08:24 GMT
Whilst the borders will be flung open Is there anything in particular that conclusion? Yes that they have en masse given asylum status to all those that Rishi et al did nothing about. I have some people may think been going on about movement of people for some time. Its nothing to do with racism it’s to do with our society and it’s values,again and repeating myself this country has over hundreds of years absorbed and integrated various waves of people. Our political masters appear to have adopted a three wise monkeys attitude to that movement of people and there are few controls in place and I don’t see that improving under Starmer. There are people entering the country with little or no checks on their past and even when they do engage in criminal activity they are not deported,anybody who believes this can continue without some breakdown of order is living a fantasy many people are tired with what they see going on and don’t have endless patience. Piece together the fall of the red wall,the ever decreasing number of those voting and still there’s triumphalism they got in on a landslide and that’s not just Starmer. Where I live there is a recent sizeable number of Hong Kong Chinese come to live,they went out of their way to introduce themselves state who they were why they came and that they wanted to contribute and integrate and it’s worked well. Contrast that with others who want to turn what’s here to where they left but with all the bonuses they came here for and many contemptuous of us and our way of life,I could go on and on but don’t wish to bore anyone. We do have our values and way of life,we are not prone to violent outbursts but patience isn’t endless and if you look around Europe now compared to when this all started and we were portrayed as the bad people in comparison to Germany,Ireland the Scandinavian countries others too and how attitudes there have hardened now much more than here but that won’t last if the paralysis of the political class isn’t cured because there are some ugly things starting and we may see things no one wants to see but it will come and through their inaction unless there’s change. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 24, 2024 12:50:35 GMT
Is there anything in particular that conclusion? Yes that they have en masse given asylum status to all those that Rishi et al did nothing about. I have some people may think been going on about movement of people for some time. Its nothing to do with racism it’s to do with our society and it’s values,again and repeating myself this country has over hundreds of years absorbed and integrated various waves of people. Our political masters appear to have adopted a three wise monkeys attitude to that movement of people and there are few controls in place and I don’t see that improving under Starmer. There are people entering the country with little or no checks on their past and even when they do engage in criminal activity they are not deported,anybody who believes this can continue without some breakdown of order is living a fantasy many people are tired with what they see going on and don’t have endless patience. Piece together the fall of the red wall,the ever decreasing number of those voting and still there’s triumphalism they got in on a landslide and that’s not just Starmer. Where I live there is a recent sizeable number of Hong Kong Chinese come to live,they went out of their way to introduce themselves state who they were why they came and that they wanted to contribute and integrate and it’s worked well. Contrast that with others who want to turn what’s here to where they left but with all the bonuses they came here for and many contemptuous of us and our way of life,I could go on and on but don’t wish to bore anyone. We do have our values and way of life,we are not prone to violent outbursts but patience isn’t endless and if you look around Europe now compared to when this all started and we were portrayed as the bad people in comparison to Germany,Ireland the Scandinavian countries others too and how attitudes there have hardened now much more than here but that won’t last if the paralysis of the political class isn’t cured because there are some ugly things starting and we may see things no one wants to see but it will come and through their inaction unless there’s change. Thank you for your considered reply. So just to clarify, your original comment about open borders was specifically in relation to irregular migration rather than regular migration? |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 24, 2024 12:58:02 GMT
What would you replace the Bibby Stockholm with?
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 24, 2024 13:01:57 GMT
Scotland is the ideal place to start relocating these illegal migrants, instead of cramming them into most parts of England we should start using available land, which is in abundance in Scotland.
In the 2022 survey, the latest available, 3,277 vacant and derelict sites were listed – 80 per cent of which were derelict. They collectively made up 9,512 hectares of Scotland's land – around 36.7 square miles
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 24, 2024 14:01:58 GMT
What would you replace the Bibby Stockholm with? If the backlog was reduced, why would it need to be replaced? |
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Post by ginnyg2 on Jul 24, 2024 14:05:19 GMT
Bibby Stockholm could be used to alleviate the overcrowded prison crisis.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 24, 2024 14:07:58 GMT
Bibby Stockholm could be used to alleviate the overcrowded prison crisis. If it's secure enough I wouldn't object. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 24, 2024 14:08:58 GMT
What would you replace the Bibby Stockholm with? If the backlog was reduced, why would it need to be replaced? How do you ease the backlog? Deport? Anything that encourages illegal immigration will result in more drownings, more illegal immigration, and more backlogs. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 24, 2024 14:13:53 GMT
If the backlog was reduced, why would it need to be replaced? How do you ease the backlog? Deport? Anything that encourages illegal immigration will result in more drownings, more illegal immigration, and more backlogs. Do you believe that dealing efficiently with the cases would bring more? As the numbers have been growing while the backlogs have been growing, I'd suggest that probably isn't the case. I suspect those in Calais trying to reach the UK don't care what the current backlog is. Deportation for failed AS? Yes, absolutely. The trip to Vietnam is a good start. |
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Post by patman post on Jul 24, 2024 14:14:15 GMT
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