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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 24, 2024 8:33:11 GMT
Whilst the borders will be flung open Is there anything in particular that conclusion? |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 24, 2024 8:34:20 GMT
Let's be honest: Why would they care what the plebs think when the vast majority didn't vote for them. I know its great isnt it |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 24, 2024 8:57:14 GMT
Whilst the borders will be flung open Is there anything in particular that conclusion? In the world of the populist Right, conspiracy theories run riot, and 1 + 1 = 3 The equasion goes like this: Biby Stockholm contract to end OBVIOUSLY means the government are going to "throw open the doors" |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 24, 2024 9:01:23 GMT
In the real world, illegal immigrants have come from all kinds of places, and not all of them for ethical reasons.
There are out there people who are wanted in their own countries for murder.
There are war criminals out there who become "asylum seekers" in order to escape justice.
If we do not have a process to filter out the bad from the good, then we invite unlimited numbers of bad people into our country, and the repercussions for everyone, including good immigrants, i.e. people who are either genuine refugees, or economic migrants with skills, would be less friendliness and tolerance, more racism, and even the risk of someone being murdered by an irate local who has simply had enough of rape gangs, pickpockets, thieves and so forth.
We need migration CONTROLS, not an open door.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 24, 2024 9:03:17 GMT
Labour are removing policies that deter illegal migrants, firstly the Rwanda scheme had illegals in France popping champagne corks when Labour won.
Now scrapping the Bibby Stockholm the migrants will be punching the air again, so what are Labour going to put in place to deter the arrivals of illegals?
I'll tell you ...... FUCK ALL.
They are encouraging them even more, everyone knew exactly what Labour would do over the illegal migrant crossing ...... and they haven't disappointed us so far.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 24, 2024 9:04:53 GMT
I knew that this topic would turm up Asylum seekers not illegals used . Like Ukrainians Afghans or Hong-Kong Nationals. Are you going to andwer my question, or try to divert the isdue The riots in Leeds proved that persons not having the right to remain are living in the community. So when this boat closes and those on it are handed to those wanker councils that applaud their ‘shithole of sanctuary’ status, hiw is this not going to be a problem for the council’s legal obligation to find housing for homeless real brits ? |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 24, 2024 9:14:18 GMT
In the real world, illegal immigrants have come from all kinds of places, and not all of them for ethical reasons. There are out there people who are wanted in their own countries for murder. There are war criminals out there who become "asylum seekers" in order to escape justice. If we do not have a process to filter out the bad from the good, then we invite unlimited numbers of bad people into our country, and the repercussions for everyone, including good immigrants, i.e. people who are either genuine refugees, or economic migrants with skills, would be less friendliness and tolerance, more racism, and even the risk of someone being murdered by an irate local who has simply had enough of rape gangs, pickpockets, thieves and so forth. We need migration CONTROLS, not an open door. Wasn't that what some gullible fools voted brexit for |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 24, 2024 9:17:26 GMT
I knew that this topic would turm up Asylum seekers not illegals used . Like Ukrainians Afghans or Hong-Kong Nationals. Are you going to andwer my question, or try to divert the isdue The riots in Leeds proved that persons not having the right to remain are living in the community. So when this boat closes and those on it are handed to those wanker councils that applaud their ‘shithole of sanctuary’ status, hiw is this not going to be a problem for the council’s legal obligation to find housing for homeless real brits ? Because like i said illegals cant have council housing. And who the real British in your book . |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 24, 2024 9:17:52 GMT
Nope.
I voted for independence, sovereignty, democracy.
And we've got that back in spades.
Thing is, our Parliament still doesn't get who is boss.
The taxpayer is boss.
It's time we had more direct democracy.
Hold a public vote on the Bibby Stockholm.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 24, 2024 9:19:35 GMT
Whilst the borders will be flung open Is there anything in particular that conclusion? Labour. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 24, 2024 9:22:26 GMT
Nope. I voted for independence, sovereignty, democracy. And we've got that back in spades. Thing is, our Parliament still doesn't get who is boss. The taxpayer is boss. It's time we had more direct democracy. Hold a public vote on the Bibby Stockholm. Exactly, they are public 'servants' whether they like that term or not, that's exactly what their job description is, to serve the people.
They disrespectfully throw our money round like confetti, we are not consulted on where that money is wasted, and agree any more of tax payers money spent on people who have illegally entered our country should be put to the tax payers of this country.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 24, 2024 9:26:38 GMT
Is there anything in particular that conclusion? In the world of the populist Right, conspiracy theories run riot, and 1 + 1 = 3 The equasion goes like this: Biby Stockholm contract to end OBVIOUSLY means the government are going to "throw open the doors" The irony. Meanwhile in LeftyVille: "Everybody's racist. Racist, racist, racist. Aaargh!..." |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 24, 2024 9:27:18 GMT
Labour are removing policies that deter illegal migrants, firstly the Rwanda scheme had illegals in France popping champagne corks when Labour won. Now scrapping the Bibby Stockholm the migrants will be punching the air again, so what are Labour going to put in place to deter the arrivals of illegals? I'll tell you ...... FUCK ALL. They are encouraging them even more, everyone knew exactly what Labour would do over the illegal migrant crossing ...... and they haven't disappointed us so far. We need sensible, effective and less costly ways to tackle the boats crisis The total cost of sending 2 volunteers to Rwanda was £400 Million, and those considering attempting to cross the channel in small boats knew that their chance of NOT been sent to Rwanda was 98% as opposed to a 2% of been sent there, clearly NOT an effective measure at all. The new government have been in power for less than three weeks |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 24, 2024 9:30:12 GMT
Labour are removing policies that deter illegal migrants, firstly the Rwanda scheme had illegals in France popping champagne corks when Labour won. Now scrapping the Bibby Stockholm the migrants will be punching the air again, so what are Labour going to put in place to deter the arrivals of illegals? I'll tell you ...... FUCK ALL. They are encouraging them even more, everyone knew exactly what Labour would do over the illegal migrant crossing ...... and they haven't disappointed us so far. We need sensible, effective and less costly ways to tackle the boats crisis The total cost of sending 2 volunteers to Rwanda was £400 Million, and those considering attempting to cross the channel in small boats knew that their chance of NOT been sent to Rwanda was 98% as opposed to a 2% of been sent there, clearly NOT an effective measure at all. The new government have been in power for less than three weeks Ok so if we agree the Rwanda scheme wasn't well thought out, it did the job, it sent thousands to Ireland, and had them twitching their arses in France.
So what are Labour going to do to have those arses twitching again?
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 24, 2024 9:50:56 GMT
Is there anything in particular that conclusion? In the world of the populist Right, conspiracy theories run riot, and 1 + 1 = 3 The equasion goes like this: Biby Stockholm contract to end OBVIOUSLY means the government are going to "throw open the doors" To be fair to Wapentake, I do not believe him to be a populist. He is a very considered poster and I would hope he gave a considered answer. All the replies above seem to only consider illegal migration, which is only a small part of the overall migration figures. |
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