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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 18, 2024 8:37:45 GMT
The Equalities Act 2010 makes it illegal to discriminate agaisnt age, so what does over qualified mean except that we think you are too old, too white, too English, too middle class and just too honest.
I have a little theory on this. The bitch at the recruitment agency has a brain that can not completely distinguish between choosing a man to go on a date with and choosing a man for a job.
It's a sad state of affairs anyhow. I expect you are wondering why nothing works properly in this country anymore. Well back in the past experience was highly sort after in jobs.
Here is a short story of a man with a problem in backwards Britain. You decide if he looks like he could do your accounts satisfactorily or not.
Please bear in mind this chap is not a professional Youtuber. He's just put this video up by the looks of things out of desperation, not as a news item to earn money off advertising, so we are dealing with a real tragedy, so have some respect.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 18, 2024 9:16:30 GMT
Well, apart from the fact he’s a qualified accountant offering professional accountancy services, and i’m a time served software engineer with corporate British Computer Society membership, i see ourselves in the same place
In short, his problem and mine is that the internet destroyed the agency market.
When he (and i) set out on our respective careers in business on our own account, we had an agent. They took 20% on average and for that they did all the hard work, they talked to clients on our behalf. They had maybe 20 or 30 of us on their filifaxes which meant if they kept us in a job they made two to three times what we did but we didn’t care because losing one pound in five was WORTH it for the real WORK they did for us. They knew our field of expertise often because they had dabbled in it themselves. But most important of all, they KNEW that WE chose to pay them a commission out of our weekly invoice because we could then focus on doing the job(s) but we COULD do it without them, just not as effectively, whereas an agent without anyone to represent is a starving agent
The internet and some agency scum changed all that. Agencies started to sign up single source agreements by bribing HR people, that barred people from working at a client except through them. They then became receivers of CVs they pushed out and it quickly became a race to the bottom of the barrel.
Add Blair’s antics and freelancing just isn’t worth doung in the uk any more
I would not return to it in the UK for any reason
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 18, 2024 10:09:04 GMT
Well, apart from the fact he’s a qualified accountant offering professional accountancy services, and i’m a time served software engineer with corporate British Computer Society membership, i see ourselves in the same place In short, his problem and mine is that the internet destroyed the agency market. When he (and i) set out on our respective careers in business on our own account, we had an agent. They took 20% on average and for that they did all the hard work, they talked to clients on our behalf. They had maybe 20 or 30 of us on their filifaxes which meant if they kept us in a job they made two to three times what we did but we didn’t care because losing one pound in five was WORTH it for the real WORK they did for us. They knew our field of expertise often because they had dabbled in it themselves. But most important of all, they KNEW that WE chose to pay them a commission out of our weekly invoice because we could then focus on doing the job(s) but we COULD do it without them, just not as effectively, whereas an agent without anyone to represent is a starving agent The internet and some agency scum changed all that. Agencies started to sign up single source agreements by bribing HR people, that barred people from working at a client except through them. They then became receivers of CVs they pushed out and it quickly became a race to the bottom of the barrel. Add Blair’s antics and freelancing just isn’t worth doung in the uk any more I would not return to it in the UK for any reason Those agreements should be made illegal on the grounds of anticompetitive practices. I thought the EU had a powerful competition law which is supposed to outlaw anything that distorts the market.
Yes I get your point if the agent is doing about 1/5th of the work. In my mind that makes it a good thing because they are contributing to wealth generation via making a better match than would be possible without them. It's like buying a product. People measure that in terms of value for money, but strict economic thinking says it is important the product matches the use it is purchased for or else its real value to you is diminished and why a good salesman is worth his money too. Likewise there is no point in having an expert in one computer discipline working in an area they are unfamiliar with. Like you say, it needs market regulation so the agency fee is equivalent to the increase in output their services produce. Now they operate a protection racket so their services are negative in value. They waste your time chasing after jobs that don't exist. I've been on the phone to one or two myself and interrogated them. I'm like the KGB in full interrogation mode, and gave them a hard time, so I know what you speak of.
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