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Post by Bentley on Oct 5, 2024 15:30:56 GMT
Man did walk with Dinosaurs . It was see2.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Oct 6, 2024 2:58:01 GMT
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Post by Dubdrifter on Oct 6, 2024 3:07:56 GMT
For the scientific people who dip into my threads - but don’t have the courage to leave a COMMENT … here is a more detailed link to this footprint STUDY. journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0088329Catch it before the Religious Lobby DESTROYS IT 🤔 … and their ‘nazi’ TROLLS … like I get on here … attack the authors. [Censorship is a real problem in these FRINGE fields of discussion … and Libraries of info are being trashed daily by CLOSED-MINDED thugs determined to destroy our true HISTORY.]
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Post by Vinny on Oct 6, 2024 8:19:37 GMT
Humans did not walk with dinosaurs.
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Post by piglet on Oct 6, 2024 10:20:40 GMT
That post is amazing dub, where you say scientific people read your posts and are then afraid to comment. Then theres the religious lobby that wants to destroy your footprints thang, then the nazi trolls, i think you must mean me.
Then you bring in censorship, close minded thugs, then unnamed persons intent on destroying history, all of it aimed at proving that you are right. Where do we go from here? everyone is against you. Can you expand further? that to think that everyone is against you is correct, on this board anyway, you have no advocates.
But there is the Baron, you and he have regular conversations, i shall look forward to your comments about such, and it would help me to understand how there is a difference between you, not only in belief but in other ways.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 6, 2024 13:51:53 GMT
There are religious groups who think just about anything that you could imagine , so what ? I’m sure that there were human and/ or humanoids around 800000 years ago . Dinosaurs were long gone after that apparently.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Oct 7, 2024 11:32:26 GMT
That post is amazing dub, where you say scientific people read your posts and are then afraid to comment. Then theres the religious lobby that wants to destroy your footprints thang, then the nazi trolls, i think you must mean me. Then you bring in censorship, close minded thugs, then unnamed persons intent on destroying history, all of it aimed at proving that you are right. Where do we go from here? everyone is against you. Can you expand further? that to think that everyone is against you is correct, on this board anyway, you have no advocates. But there is the Baron, you and he have regular conversations, i shall look forward to your comments about such, and it would help me to understand how there is a difference between you, not only in belief but in other ways. I’m just discussing a POV and presenting evidence … discussions that people in senior/influential positions cannot discuss openly at work … for fear of ridicule and removal. They might like to trawl this stuff in a coffee break. I’m just here defending my threads from destructive people … If you presented good counter evidence to my points … instead of personal attacks … then that might be a better approach to these discussions … ?? There are religious groups who think just about anything that you could imagine , so what ?I’m sure that there were human and/ or humanoids around 800000 years ago . Dinosaurs were long gone after that apparently. [Did you mean to say before that? ….] I think it’s important to destroy The Biblical narrative of “12,000 year old human/ 7 day creationism” … when the evidence presents itself. America has been going off the ‘science rails’ lately listening to this 12,000 year Biblical guff … but not all the Biblical scientists are adherents to this narrative … and some present good evidence humans may have walked with dinosaurs … and suggest interesting points dinosaur extinction dates might not necessarily fall into the same context the fossil record shows. Conditions for fossilisation are very rare in modern times. … and ancient times … especially as humans evolved … clinging to survival …. I wonder if there is evidence of stone tool butchery marks on some earlier dinosaur bones that has been deliberately ignored by scientists too afraid to speak out??- put their careers on the line?? … not just later sauropod bones … as discovered in America recently … which attracted much hostility and doubt from some Establishment figures. Tissue preservation suggests later extinction dates than we imagined … for some dinosaur species. … check out the video posts I dropped earlier on this …. rubbery tissue survival/discovery, Bentley … it’s very interesting. Triceratops and other species. Material NOT turned to stone. Clearly relatively fairly recent.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 7, 2024 11:52:50 GMT
That post is amazing dub, where you say scientific people read your posts and are then afraid to comment. Then theres the religious lobby that wants to destroy your footprints thang, then the nazi trolls, i think you must mean me. Then you bring in censorship, close minded thugs, then unnamed persons intent on destroying history, all of it aimed at proving that you are right. Where do we go from here? everyone is against you. Can you expand further? that to think that everyone is against you is correct, on this board anyway, you have no advocates. But there is the Baron, you and he have regular conversations, i shall look forward to your comments about such, and it would help me to understand how there is a difference between you, not only in belief but in other ways. I’m just discussing a POV and presenting evidence … discussions that people in senior/influential positions cannot discuss openly at work … for fear of ridicule and removal. They might like to trawl this stuff in a coffee break. I’m just here defending my threads from destructive people … If you presented good counter evidence to my points … instead of personal attacks … then that might be a better approach to these discussions … ?? There are religious groups who think just about anything that you could imagine , so what ?I’m sure that there were human and/ or humanoids around 800000 years ago . Dinosaurs were long gone after that apparently. [Did you mean to say before that? ….] I think it’s important to destroy The Biblical narrative of “12,000 year old human/ 7 day creationism” … when the evidence presents itself. America has been going off the ‘science rails’ lately listening to this 12,000 year Biblical guff … but not all the Biblical scientists are adherents to this narrative … and some present good evidence humans may have walked with dinosaurs … and suggest interesting points dinosaur extinction dates might not necessarily fall into the same context the fossil record shows. Conditions for fossilisation are very rare in modern times. … and ancient times … especially as humans evolved … clinging to survival …. I wonder if there is evidence of stone tool butchery marks on some earlier dinosaur bones that has been deliberately ignored by scientists too afraid to speak out??- put their careers on the line?? … not just later sauropod bones … as discovered in America recently … which attracted much hostility and doubt from some Establishment figures. Tissue preservation suggests later extinction dates than we imagined … for some dinosaur species. … check out the video posts I dropped earlier on this …. rubbery tissue survival/discovery, Bentley … it’s very interesting. Triceratops and other species. Material NOT turned to stone. Clearly relatively fairly recent. Yes I meant before that. Dinosaurs were long gone by 800000 years ago . I don’t know why you go on about ‘ biblical 12000 years guff ‘iirc it’s more like 6000 years anyway. I don’t dismiss the possibility that a few dinosaur species survived around 800000 years ago but I haven’t seen any proof so far.
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Post by besoeker3 on Oct 7, 2024 15:26:47 GMT
Tissue preservation suggests later extinction dates than we imagined … for some dinosaur species. … check out the video posts I dropped earlier on this …. rubbery tissue survival/discovery, Bentley … it’s very interesting. Triceratops and other species. Material NOT turned to stone. Clearly relatively fairly recent. But still no hard facts from you.............
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Post by patman post on Oct 7, 2024 18:41:55 GMT
Rather than only looking for proof that humans were around back in the time of dinosaurs, why not look for evidence that some dinosaurs survived into the time humans first appeared…?
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Post by Dubdrifter on Oct 8, 2024 10:50:36 GMT
I don’t dismiss the possibility that a few dinosaur species survived around 800000 years ago but I haven’t seen any proof so far. Rather than only looking for proof that humans were around back in the time of dinosaurs, why not look for evidence that some dinosaurs survived into the time humans first appeared…? The proof and evidence is already quite well presented in these 4 posts on Page 6 of this discussion. Oh dear … now we have an expert on C14 testing saying these recovered dinosaur bones are nothing close to 65/66 million years old. … interesting. Looks like all sorts of timelines are getting scrambled by C14 and C 13 data testing … Can’t say I’m rolling with the Earth being quite that young though!🤔😁 … but happy with the idea that some dinosaur specimens found are relatively recent … Scientists blindly parroting bones being 65million years old … when they don’t even bother to TEST EACH ONE TO CHECK … shows sloppy Science in the extreme.… assumption isn’t serious analysis. Here is an interesting piece that discusses how certain species are likely to have found pockets of habitat to survive in … despite the immediate species crashes that occurred when the asteroid hit 65 million years ago. Note: near the end he mentions discoveries that saw some species being in later layers … surviving 500,000 years after the impact … but Scientists ignoring these results … because they bucked the Establishment narrative on extinction. This is typical of an Establishment that builds careers on Theories … and God forbid if you dig up something that destroys their narratives … They will go ALL OUT to destroy you … and your reputation. Here’s the paper by Mary Schweitser … that some scientists and publications have tried to suppress. media.longnow.org/files/2/REVIVE/annurev-earth-final-published.pdfDetailing her research into dinosaur soft tissues … See examples below: Maybe recovery of DNA will bring back these species … in the way described in Michael Creighton’s visionary book “Jurassic Park”?? For those here who cannot accept the reality of soft tissue pointing to more recent dinosaur survival … and human footprints in ancient rock as conclusive evidence humans walked in much earlier times … here is a religious groups presentation on dinosaur soft tissues It’s a pity that this video, which is one of the best graphically on Youtube collating much of the important evidence around dinosaur tissue recovery … is ruined by the flakey theory Noah’s Flood was responsible … unreliable Biblical timelines apply …and therefore dinosaur bones must be less than 10,000 years old!Most scientists accept the idea that the mineralisation of bones takes a long time, plate tectonics is a very slow process … and exceptional conditions are necessary for fossilisation. Floods and other asteroid hits/volcanic pyroclastic events can explain regional collections of bones … but the Bible isn’t a good tool for dating specimens … certainly not as good as radio isotope testing (flawed as it may be) - when determining the AGE of certain materials.. We have to consider a European flood event might be on a different timeline to an American dinosaur graveyard event …
Why not accept that exceptional conditions also prevent soft tissue decay and mineralisation … so survival of collagen etc could go well beyond timelines that current studies predicted. [Let’s not make stupid assumptions human history and planetary history is accurate purely from a collection of Biblical narratives - composed and edited to manipulate the Masses back in Roman times … as Religious Factions evolved to exert their stranglehold on our Freedoms and tried to control our development, imaginations - and rewrite our history.] Hope these presentations help reinforce this idea HUMANS likely walked with dinosaurs.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 8, 2024 10:54:58 GMT
I don’t dismiss the possibility that a few dinosaur species survived around 800000 years ago but I haven’t seen any proof so far. Rather than only looking for proof that humans were around back in the time of dinosaurs, why not look for evidence that some dinosaurs survived into the time humans first appeared…? The proof and evidence is already quite well presented in these 4 posts on Page 6 of this discussion. Oh dear … now we have an expert on C14 testing saying these recovered dinosaur bones are nothing close to 65/66 million years old. … interesting. Looks like all sorts of timelines are getting scrambled by C14 and C 13 data testing … Can’t say I’m rolling with the Earth being quite that young though!🤔😁 … but happy with the idea that some dinosaur specimens found are relatively recent … Scientists blindly parroting bones being 65million years old … when they don’t even bother to TEST EACH ONE TO CHECK … shows sloppy Science in the extreme.… assumption isn’t serious analysis. Here is an interesting piece that discusses how certain species are likely to have found pockets of habitat to survive in … despite the immediate species crashes that occurred when the asteroid hit 65 million years ago. Note: near the end he mentions discoveries that saw some species being in later layers … surviving 500,000 years after the impact … but Scientists ignoring these results … because they bucked the Establishment narrative on extinction. This is typical of an Establishment that builds careers on Theories … and God forbid if you dig up something that destroys their narratives … They will go ALL OUT to destroy you … and your reputation. For those here who cannot accept the reality of soft tissue pointing to more recent dinosaur survival … and human footprints in ancient rock as conclusive evidence humans walked in much earlier times … here is a religious groups presentation on dinosaur soft tissues It’s a pity that this video, which is one of the best graphically on Youtube collating much of the important evidence around dinosaur tissue recovery … is ruined by the flakey theory Noah’s Flood was responsible … unreliable Biblical timelines apply …and therefore dinosaur bones must be less than 10,000 years old!Most scientists accept the idea that the mineralisation of bones takes a long time, plate tectonics is a very slow process … and exceptional conditions are necessary for fossilisation. Floods and other asteroid hits/volcanic pyroclastic events can explain regional collections of bones … but the Bible isn’t a good tool for dating specimens … certainly not as good as radio isotope testing (flawed as it may be) - when determining the AGE of certain materials.. We have to consider a European flood event might be on a different timeline to an American dinosaur graveyard event …
Why not accept that exceptional conditions also prevent soft tissue decay and mineralisation … so survival of collagen etc could go well beyond timelines that current studies predicted. [Let’s not make stupid assumptions human history and planetary history is accurate purely from a collection of Biblical narratives - composed and edited to manipulate the Masses back in Roman times … as Religious Factions evolved to exert their stranglehold on our Freedoms and tried to control our development, imaginations - and rewrite our history.] Hope these presentations help reinforce this idea HUMANS likely walked with dinosaurs. A handful of’ yeah but no but ‘ videos isn’t worth watching .
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Post by besoeker3 on Oct 8, 2024 12:19:19 GMT
Hope these presentations help reinforce this idea humans LIKELY walked with dinosaurs. But you never provide hard evidence. Do so for once and keep simple and direct.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Oct 9, 2024 4:40:01 GMT
The evidence and links pointing to humans and dinosaurs walking and hunting in a similar timeline context are in these pieces …and the pages of this discussion.
~ you just need to watch the videos and links … follow up on what has been presented.
… as per usual, trolls here can’t even do the BASICS required of most Members attending this Forum. Reading, listening, computing, rationalising …. AND following up and verifying. ….
When I note you are making a valid counter argument to specific details with counter evidence … then we will have a real debate on that particular point. In the meantime … stop asking ignorant questions which have already been addressed in posts you were too lazy to study.
Research is ongoing in this field - ancient human fossils and footprints are rare … and stone tool butchery marks on dinosaur bones are even rarer.
As these Theories are aired, scientists become freer to look for signs verifying these ideas … hopefully uncovering a truer account of human history … allowing ALL evidence to be included in new narratives … for example ~ sophisticated human tools and complex artefacts fossilised in coal deposits.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 9, 2024 6:35:37 GMT
You don't know the meaning of the word "evidence".
And you don't understand the 65 million year age gap between the dinosaurs and humans. A lot changed in that time.
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