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Post by Totheleft on Jul 8, 2024 11:02:58 GMT
By building a coalition to stop Le Pen they now have the job of different parties needing to form a government. This means it is likely to be unstable and might mean Le Pen could block legislation and make it largely unworkable. [br Explain how le pen can block legislation, |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 8, 2024 11:05:24 GMT
Whoever defeates the Far right in my book is welcome in my book . And i know it is in yours . My enemy enemy is my friend Defeated? They've grown. This isn't defeat, this is an advance towards achieving power. Its a defeat even macron got more 2nd round votes lol Vi va la France |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 8, 2024 11:08:05 GMT
They had the second round its over and done with Until the next election. You aren't recognising that. In the mean time they hold a lot of power and influence. France needs moderate Euroskeptics to do to them what UKIP did to the BNP. Reform are the new BNP Nigel |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 8, 2024 11:10:21 GMT
Thanks to a complicated PR voting system in France, Le Penn may yet have the last laugh. They had the second round its over and done with It's far from over and done with. There is political chaos in France at the moment, Macron is weak, his prime minister has tendered his resignation which Macron refused because he needs him, riots have already started due to the left conspiring against Le Penn, and just to add to Macrons headache the Olympics start in a couple of weeks. It's going to get messy. Like I said, Le Penn may yet have the last laugh. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 8, 2024 11:17:46 GMT
How is it a defeat when they're growing, they've pushed Macron to the brink, and there'll be more elections? The RN won the French part of their EU elections, his response was to call this election, their vote has gone up, their seat count has gone up, and the French assembly is now a hung Parliament. The next French President could be a member of the Rassemblement National, so how is this a defeat? It's a temporary setback for them and not a very big setback. And in the Presidential elections, in 2017 Macron got 20 million votes Le Pen got ten million votes. In 2022 he got 18.7 million votes, she got 13.28 million votes. Get complacent and she'll get in. This was not a defeat for them, they are growing. 2022 French Legislative election: LREM 5,857,364 RN 4,248,537 2024 first round: LR (Macron's party) 2,568,502 RN (Le Pen's party) 10,647,914 second round: LR 1,474,723 RN 10,110,013  This looks dangerous to me. This looks every bad for France. I don't know why you're laughing. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 8, 2024 11:22:02 GMT
Reform are the new BNP Nigel No, they are not, but I realise that the far left's requirement for an enemy to scapegoat for everything meant they demonised Reform anyway and tried to frame them. The BNP had a policy of ending all immigration plus deportation of blacks Asians and other ethnic minorities. Nigel destroyed them by offering ordinary non racist people concerned by immigration & by the EU an alternative to them. France doesn't have an equivalent of Nigel and without the BNP to point a finger at, your requirement for an enemy to blame for everything, has got you going bonkers.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 8, 2024 11:29:30 GMT
“Reform is the new BNP . Farage would have been a prominent Nazi.”
Leftie mindless mud slinging aimed at other dim witted lefties
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 8, 2024 12:14:08 GMT
“Reform is the new BNP . Farage would have been a prominent Nazi.” Leftie mindless mud slinging aimed at other dim witted lefties Farage wants PR
Le Pen = Le Farage = Far right in pseudo populist broadcast speech.
Now if France were FPTP then Le Pen would have won.
Farage = dodo.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 8, 2024 12:18:44 GMT
“Reform is the new BNP . Farage would have been a prominent Nazi.” Leftie mindless mud slinging aimed at other dim witted lefties Farage wants PR
Le Pen = Le Farage = Far right in pseudo populist broadcast speech.
Now if France were FPTP then Le Pen would have won.
Farage = dodo.
Nothing to do with my post . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 8, 2024 12:25:23 GMT
Farage wants PR
Le Pen = Le Farage = Far right in pseudo populist broadcast speech.
Now if France were FPTP then Le Pen would have won.
Farage = dodo.
Nothing to do with my post . Lefty aint mindless, lefty won in France.
Whereas for Farage...
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Post by Vinny on Jul 8, 2024 12:31:38 GMT
Oh and 2017 compared with 2022 and 2024: 
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Post by Bentley on Jul 8, 2024 12:34:09 GMT
Nothing to do with my post . Lefty aint mindless, lefty won in France.
Whereas for Farage...
So did you not read my post or not understand it? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 8, 2024 12:55:08 GMT
Lefty aint mindless, lefty won in France.
Whereas for Farage...
So did you not read my post or not understand it? I did read your post. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 8, 2024 13:08:41 GMT
But you did not understand it.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 8, 2024 13:23:17 GMT
“Reform is the new BNP . Farage would have been a prominent Nazi.” Leftie mindless mud slinging aimed at other dim witted lefties Farage wants PR
Le Pen = Le Farage = Far right in pseudo populist broadcast speech.
Now if France were FPTP then Le Pen would have won.
Farage = dodo.
Pillock, neither Le Pen nor Farage are 'far' right. FFS the Nazis were far right, do you really believe Le Pen and Farage are Nazis?.. |
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