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Post by Bentley on Jul 5, 2024 16:10:37 GMT
"The gap between the share of total votes won by the winning party in the 2024 general election and the share of Parliamentary seats won is the largest on record, BBC Verify has found...
...The Electoral Reform Society claimed it was “the most disproportional in British electoral history”.
. ^Remainers . |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 5, 2024 16:12:39 GMT
Would Starmer need to wheel out Rayner or can he keep her tucked away ? Her role isn’t exactly high profile .
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 5, 2024 16:16:09 GMT
Just read the new chancellor's ( worked 10 mins at the BoE so shes an ''expert''in finance ) idea of success
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“I will judge my time in office a success if I know that, at the end of it, there are working-class kids from ordinary backgrounds living richer lives, their horizons expanded, their potential realised; If we are leaving to the next generation a country that is more prosperous, with more good jobs paying decent wages, and better able to thrive in an uncertain future.”
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Sod the country , balancing the books and giving the private sector taxpayer value for money or paying for security/defence etc - the chancellor thinks Treasury success means kids having better paid jobs.
Incredible lack of awareness
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 5, 2024 16:18:32 GMT
Would Starmer need to wheel out Rayner or can he keep her tucked away ? Her role isn’t exactly high profile . She's deputy PM - that means that whenever he's not available or needs to be in two places the potty mouthed gobby is his stand in It's a potential nightmare situation |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 5, 2024 16:21:26 GMT
Would Starmer need to wheel out Rayner or can he keep her tucked away ? Her role isn’t exactly high profile . She's deputy PM - that means that whenever he's not available or needs to be in two places the potty mouthed gobby is his stand in It's a potential nightmare situation I think it's great!  |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 5, 2024 16:24:19 GMT
Would Starmer need to wheel out Rayner or can he keep her tucked away ? Her role isn’t exactly high profile . She's deputy PM - that means that whenever he's not available or needs to be in two places the potty mouthed gobby is his stand in It's a potential nightmare situation Nah. 2 Jags was Deputy dog for 10 years and they kept him out if the way when they needed to. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 5, 2024 16:27:48 GMT
You're like a football fan who's team got tonked 5-0 saying really your team won because they had more possession and corners. ^Remainers .
Yep, Remnants: Claim that a referendum with 52% of the vote isn't legit but a government elected by 34% totally is.  |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 5, 2024 16:31:33 GMT
Yep, Remnants: Claim that a referendum with 52% of the vote isn't legit but a government elected by 34% totally is. Yup. Remainiacs have set the bar to ignoring and opposing democracy. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 5, 2024 16:43:26 GMT
You know who never talks about vote shares? Winners. Yup. That’s why you and the rest of the ex remainers have been whining for eight years non stop. Ain't the remainers whining on this thread. I do see a number of Brexity types who seem to have lost their enthusiasm for democracy for some reason 🤣 |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 5, 2024 16:44:49 GMT
You're like a football fan who's team got tonked 5-0 saying really your team won because they had more possession and corners. ^Remainers . Trying drag Brexit into this is like a football fan going on about their team's past glories because their team is shit now. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 5, 2024 16:46:32 GMT
Would Starmer need to wheel out Rayner or can he keep her tucked away ? Her role isn’t exactly high profile . She's deputy PM - that means that whenever he's not available or needs to be in two places the potty mouthed gobby is his stand in It's a potential nightmare situation Oh no a working class woman in government! If only we had a cabinet stuffed with ex public schoolboys that worked so well for us 🤣 |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 5, 2024 16:47:13 GMT
Yup. That’s why you and the rest of the ex remainers have been whining for eight years non stop. Ain't the remainers whining on this thread. I do see a number of Brexity types who seem to have lost their enthusiasm for democracy for some reason 🤣 Never said it was. You need to understand your own posts as well as the responses . |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 5, 2024 16:48:53 GMT
Trying drag Brexit into this is like a football fan going on about their team's past glories because their team is shit now. Nope. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of you and rest of the remainers . |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 5, 2024 16:49:28 GMT
"The LEFT is well-known for launching large numbers of bullying rioting anarchists on our streets … and the streets of America" Does January 6th ring any bells with you? Yes, it does … but that protest was after a VOTE … not to sway a vote, bully and intimidate. 2020 had electronic machines… connected to the Internet … easily hacked … and loads of ballots … especially military postal ones were discovered dumped in ditches and dumpsters … suspicious night time activity and ballot boxes were filmed being dropped of in the early hours by shady operatives … dead people were found to have voted … and many people arrived at the polling station to be told a postal vote had already been recorded in their name …. In many states there were suspicious sudden swings against Trump. Republican voters gathered peacefully at the Capitol to voice their protest and suspicions of “vote rigging” … because they couldn’t believe a man with dementia stuck in a basement for the last 3 weeks of the campaign … who was clearly deeply unpopular … could have won fairly. The court hearings were selective in the evidence they accepted … and Capitol officials and Security were filmed on CCTV inviting key protestors into the building … why?? … because Democrat forces in Deep State wanted to create violence and a shooting in the building … to charge Trump with insurrection. … nobody believed the BS spun on that day … which is why Trump is leading the polls in 2024 … and Deep State wants to stop him by any evil means they can conjure. But you've still disenfrachised the vast majority of voters. I'm looking at some stats now: The Lib Dems have 12.2% of the vote and 71 seats. Reform have 14.3% of the vote and 4 seats. The Greens have 6.8% of the vote and still have 4 seats. Sinn Fein have .7% of the vote and 7 seats. By my back-of-an-envelope calculation, that makes a Sinn Fein vote worth 36x more than a Reform vote.
That's a ridiculous system by any objective measure.
True, and once again we get to see how shit this system is. Reform gets 4 seats with the third highest number of votes. ig.ft.com/uk-general-election/2024/results/?constituency=S14000073Can I just throw an idea in the ring towards making Elections fair in future?? 1) Make local Councils apolitical … and the vote for them at another time of the year … ie. Let candidates present themselves unaligned to any faction, religion or Party … but just presenting their skills and experience to do the job of local government … in a number of different disciplines … Planning, Services, Traffic, Administration, Legal etc. - candidates can do a series of personal presentations to canvas votes - to those interested in attending at meeting halls in the region … One short circular brochure(printed and funded by the tax-payer) with all pictured candidates strengths and experience briefly described - is dropped at each house … for voters to make an informed decision … free of political bias. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ For the General Election … our Parliament … Westminster. 2)Parties keen to put together a team of experts to run the Country in different disciplines … Home Affairs, Foreign Affairs, Industry, Transport, Resources, Arts, Environment … are each given a fixed Campaign budget by the tax-payers … and can use no other funding … to present their case for the direction they want to steer the Country … goals, strategies and expertise to do the job. The top 10 have an hours slot on TV to do a presentation of policies and expertise. The General Election is held within 2 weeks of these final presentations …10 teams/Parties (max) make the final cut to stand for Election … and appear on the ballot paper of EVERY region. No funding is needed to stand … your team just needs to be sufficiently qualified to make the top 10 … and get on the ballot. So if the Monster Raving Looney Party has a very competent Administrative Team in it’s set-up … and does an excellent presentation … it doesn’t need huge amounts of money to be in the VOTE … and could potentially form a Government. Personally … I feel this is a fairer System than we have now … it’s not First Past the Post … or Proportional Representation …. so EVERY VOTE WILL COUNT.
It will also iron out some corruption and wealthy factions buying more votes and members … because MP’s will be fixed rate tax-payer salaried … No outside funding permitted.
It will also focus more attention on skills and competence to Govern … and bring experts back into Government at the top levels …
It will reduce the ‘dead wood’ and ‘donkeys’ braying in the House of Commons … and it will remove the Whip System that does so much damage.Any thoughts … any weakness I’ve missed in this System?? |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 5, 2024 16:49:43 GMT
She's deputy PM - that means that whenever he's not available or needs to be in two places the potty mouthed gobby is his stand in It's a potential nightmare situation Oh no a working class woman in government! If only we had a cabinet stuffed with ex public schoolboys that worked so well for us 🤣 So all working class women are gobby are they? Typical bigoted leftie aren’t you? |
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