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Post by piglet on Jun 30, 2024 10:08:31 GMT
In less than a week you will cease to exist, a cause for celebration, there is no coming back from utter betrayal, i will be glad to see you go.
Best Wishes....a Tory. A proper one.
Adios.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2024 14:01:04 GMT
In less than a week you will cease to exist, a cause for celebration, there is no coming back from utter betrayal, i will be glad to see you go. Best Wishes....a Tory. A proper one. Adios. Seconded!
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Post by Cartertonian on Jun 30, 2024 14:45:01 GMT
Will the real Tory please stand up?
Over the last forty years I've seen many Tories who engender respect, even if I don't agree with them. But it seems to me that the real Tories were purged by Johnson and all that's left - at least on the front benches - are economically libertarian/socially authoritarian Reform-lite types, more akin to Tea Party/MAGA republicans than 'proper' One Nation, traditional, compassionate conservatives who I could respect.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 30, 2024 15:03:58 GMT
LOL - in the last 14 years the One Nation Tories have been in charge for all of them apart from 49 days. Cameron was a One Nation Tory, May was a One Nation Tory, Johnson was a One Nation Tory, Sunak is a One Nation Tory.. I'm sure if it wasn't for that 49 days the Tories would be sweeping all before them...
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 30, 2024 15:52:50 GMT
Ever since Cameron's Con-Lib coalition, with the possible exception of Liz Truss, the Tories have had more in common with globalist Liberal social democrats than proper centre right Conservatives and the truth is, we all know it, it's hardly a secret. This is why the current Conservative-lite Tory government are probably going to be wiped out on 4th July. But they will be back, it's an absolute racing certainty. Over the next five years, or less, Reform UK will force the Tories back to the centre right of British politics.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 1, 2024 12:16:03 GMT
Will the real Tory please stand up? Over the last forty years I've seen many Tories who engender respect, even if I don't agree with them. But it seems to me that the real Tories were purged by Johnson and all that's left - at least on the front benches - are economically libertarian/socially authoritarian Reform-lite types, more akin to Tea Party/MAGA republicans than 'proper' One Nation, traditional, compassionate conservatives who I could respect. Don't be daft: Becoming the One Nation Untory Party is what's killed them.
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Post by sandypine on Jul 1, 2024 13:41:21 GMT
Will the real Tory please stand up? Over the last forty years I've seen many Tories who engender respect, even if I don't agree with them. But it seems to me that the real Tories were purged by Johnson and all that's left - at least on the front benches - are economically libertarian/socially authoritarian Reform-lite types, more akin to Tea Party/MAGA republicans than 'proper' One Nation, traditional, compassionate conservatives who I could respect. Don't be daft: Becoming the One Nation Untory Party is what's killed them.
Precisely, Major carried on like Thatcher, apart from the EU, and pushed ahead with the de Nationalisation programme. At that point most people were comfortable, if slightly wary, as regards immigration. Once Blair got in Britain did indeed change forever and the One Nation Tories carried on in that tradition carrying out a programme of globalism and Internationalism that was initiated under Major but refined by Blair and all subsequent PMs. This programme required the inundation of the UK with major demographic change under the guise of beneficial multiculturalism so that a cohesive society unified in its outlook could be fractured and controlled. This seems the only plausible explanation why the electorate have voted continuously for strictly controlled immigration and been roundly ignored by all and sundry in the political world, it is verging on the criminal. Global political power is the end game for most political leaders now vying for the voter's approval and the PM and the Cabinet are merely stepping stones to their position on the world stage. As Farage says the election is only to change middle management as the power lies elsewhere and that is in all senses unacceptable.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 3, 2024 7:26:52 GMT
Will the real Tory please stand up? Over the last forty years I've seen many Tories who engender respect, even if I don't agree with them. But it seems to me that the real Tories were purged by Johnson and all that's left - at least on the front benches - are economically libertarian/socially authoritarian Reform-lite types, more akin to Tea Party/MAGA republicans than 'proper' One Nation, traditional, compassionate conservatives who I could respect. I’ve said before that the Labour man who was my MP at my former address was a rebel who wanted nothing more than to be a constituency MP and he remains to this day the only member of the house proven to be open to rational, peer reviewed medical evidence argument that his choice of division lobby to walk through was the wrong one. That fact more than any other was why i mourned his passing following his death in office not that long ago. Smith and Blair could not make him toe the party whip line when the bill was clearly utter bollox, and were he still there Sir Kneel A Lot would have NO chance The house will, sadly, never see the likes of Tony Benn and Dennis Skinner again either. Neither aired views i particularly agreed with, but they stuck to them harder than Ian North clung to the wheel on the bridge of the Atlantic Conveyor and these days such a dogged adherence to a biewpoint is unheard of.
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