Farage being smeared.

No, but labelling someone who sees nothing wrong with calling a Jew an "effing y*d" or sees nothing wrong with anyone else doing so an antisemite definitely would be. Labour party member or not.

And just to be clear. I do not assume that everyone willing to lend an ear or their support to Reform is a racist. But they definitely do attract the racist vote and racists and phobes of various kinds appear to be happy in the party.

Farage himself boast abouts how he destroyed the BNP. How do you think he did it? By using the power of persuasion to convince their supporters that their racism was misguided? Or by dog whistling their support for racism themselves but being less overt about it in order to both appear more respectable on the surface, and  attract non-racist supporters too? It is definitely the latter. Scratch the surface of Reform and it is obvious where most of the former BNP support has gone.

Do they appeal to you by any chance? I know you are not a racist, unlike a few others in this thread, but there are many policy offerings that have nothing to do with racism. Do you like the idea of still more cuts to public services and welfare to fund more tax cuts using dodgy sums? An insurance based model for the NHS?

Let's be clear here. I myself very much like their idea of raising the basic rate threshold to £20k. It would help low paid working people like me a lot. I just don't believe that it is remotely deliverable any time soon without substantial tax increases elsewhere, or swingeing cuts to public services already on their knees. Or both.

And voting for a bunch of racists because they promise to deliver for ordinary people, whilst overlooking, denying, or minimising their racism, is exactly what the Germans did in the early 30s. Fortunately, the decent majority here which abhors bigotry will never make that mistake. Calling someone an "effing P*ki will repel most decent people. And the supporters of Reform clearly don't get that even if the guy who said it was a plant, they themselves being all over the internet - including here - making light of it, agreeing with it or seeing nothing wrong with it are themselves - many barely concealed racists - just proving the point and broadcasting for all to see that the cancer of racism is alive and kicking inside Reform and amongst substantial chunks of it's support base. If the guy who made the comment is a plant, they are doing his job for them and playing into his hands. This very thread is serving to demonstrate that. And the more this breaks the surface or is uncovered the more decent people will be repelled by Reform.

The racists out there will love it of course. Their support for Reform will be rock solid. But there are just not enough such knuckle draggers out there to deliver a real electoral breakthrough. However over-represented they are on this forum.

And you personally, whilst not a racist yourself and generally being economically progressive when in sensible mode, have a pronounced tendency to be attracted to right wing populist causes whilst overlooking any inherent flaws, minimising them, or engaging in overt whataboutery, which you did above in the comments I am responding to.

It depends on the reasons. Racists definitely worry about too many immigrants for racist reasons, though that does not mean that all worries about immigration is a sign of racism. I do not believe that legitimate concerns about too many people coming here is automatically racist. So I don't know why you are trying to persuade me of that when I accept it already.

However, calling someone of Asian ethnicity an "effing P*ki" is totally racist. But even if he is a plant and there is no evidence for that yet beyond an assertion, supporters belittling the comment as no big deal, just banter, just ordinary chat are themselves demonstrating their own racism, because you have to be a racist not to see that calling someone an "effing P*ki" is unacceptable. Racist language is only ever acceptable in the minds of fellow racists. So Reform supporters all over the highways and byways of the internet are beavering away proving his point that a lot of racists support Reform. Including half a dozen racist scumbags on this very forum, in this very thread. You may not be one of them but you are totally failing to recognise them for what they are.

If someone were to call Starmer's Jewish wife an "effing y*d" would you and all other decent people not be condemning such appalling racism? So why do you have such a blind spot when people here are seeking to portray as no big deal calling an ethnic Asian an "effing P*ki"?

It depends on the reasons. Racists definitely worry about too many immigrants for racist reasons, though that does not mean that all worries about immigration is a sign of racism. I do not believe that legitimate concerns about too many people coming here is automatically racist. So I don't know why you are trying to persuade me of that when I accept it already.

However, calling someone of Asian ethnicity an "effing P*ki" is totally racist. But even if he is a plant and there is no evidence for that yet beyond an assertion, supporters belittling the comment as no big deal, just banter, just ordinary chat are themselves demonstrating their own racism, because you have to be a racist not to see that calling someone an "effing P*ki" is unacceptable. Racist language is only ever acceptable in the minds of fellow racists. So Reform supporters all over the highways and byways of the internet are beavering away proving his point that a lot of racists support Reform. Including half a dozen racist scumbags on this very forum, in this very thread. You may not be one of them but you are totally failing to recognise them for what they are.

If someone were to call Starmer's Jewish wife an "effing y*d" would you and all other decent people not be condemning such appalling racism? So why do you have such a blind spot when people here are seeking to portray as no big deal calling an ethnic Asian an "effing P*ki"?

How many lefties on here have condemned this person 
“27 year old Jovan Owusu-Nepaul with Starmer, who it must be said doesn't look very comfortable lol. Jovan is the Labour candidate for Clacton. He said his favourite drink is white mens tears, and that he was standing in Clacton for black and brown people.”
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