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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 29, 2024 9:21:04 GMT
srb wouldn't have cared if they threw a milkshake over Sunak or pelted him with bricks .... because he seems to think it's fine doing it Farage ... but he is a selective outraged lefty. Exactly. The idea that Shrieks gives a flying fuck about Sunak is laughable. Yes, his faux false outrage is transparent. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 29, 2024 9:23:04 GMT
His Religion and culture sort of gives it away .... it's native to England CoE which is our Religion and culture ...... so you trying to play the race colour of skin card, is failing miserably. Nationality has nothing to do with religion. You're not British because of your religion. Jesus fucking Christ. Nothing else going on in your coven forum ..... LOL |
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Post by aristaeus on Jun 29, 2024 9:24:12 GMT
Sunak was born in the UK, so why do you think he's a foreigner? Maybe, if you were a German, you'd think he's a foreigner. But Sunak is clearly British. Of course he's British, he was born in Southampton. Fairsociety claims he's a foreigner because he's not a Christian. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 29, 2024 9:25:57 GMT
Maybe, if you were a German, you'd think he's a foreigner. But Sunak is clearly British. Of course he's British, he was born in Southampton. Fairsociety claims he's a foreigner because he's not a Christian. Stop making things up, how's the Boeing 737 going ...LOL |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2024 9:27:23 GMT
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 29, 2024 9:46:08 GMT
His Religion and culture sort of gives it away .... it's native to England CoE which is our Religion and culture ...... so you trying to play the race colour of skin card, is failing miserably. Nationality has nothing to do with religion. You're not British because of your religion. Jesus fucking Christ. Ethnicity and nationality aren't the same. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 29, 2024 9:47:54 GMT
Nationality has nothing to do with religion. You're not British because of your religion. Jesus fucking Christ. Nothing else going on in your coven forum ..... LOL It's a bit hard to debate in an echo chamber. The poor little snowflakes will soon get bored.
I mean, their most popular thread was one about trolling this place.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 29, 2024 9:53:26 GMT
Nothing else going on in your coven forum ..... LOL It's a bit hard to debate in an echo chamber. The poor little snowflakes will soon get bored.
I mean, their most popular thread was one about trolling this place.
How sad can they be? They are having to come over to this forum to have a decent debate, then they go back to theirs discussing how much they dislike this one FFS ...... LOL |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 29, 2024 11:12:24 GMT
His Religion and culture sort of gives it away .... it's native to England CoE which is our Religion and culture ...... so you trying to play the race colour of skin card, is failing miserably. Nationality has nothing to do with religion. You're not British because of your religion. Jesus fucking Christ. British culture stems from Christianity and its history . South African Boers are just as South African Blacks . Are you saying that South African culture is White and Boer? |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 29, 2024 11:13:33 GMT
It's a bit hard to debate in an echo chamber. The poor little snowflakes will soon get bored.
I mean, their most popular thread was one about trolling this place.
How sad can they be? They are having to come over to this forum to have a decent debate, then they go back to theirs discussing how much they dislike this one FFS ...... LOL Yup . Back to Butt hurt central to regroup 😁 |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 29, 2024 11:16:18 GMT
They are having to come over to this forum to have a decent debate, then they go back to theirs discussing how much they dislike this one FFS ...... LOL Yup . Back to Butt hurt central to regroup 😁 LOL .... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2024 11:22:11 GMT
But calling someone an "effing P*ki"" - or seeing nothing wrong in doing so - does. Which I referred to in my first line Would it be ok to label everybody who supports labour is an anti semite?No, but labelling someone who sees nothing wrong with calling a Jew an "effing y*d" or sees nothing wrong with anyone else doing so an antisemite definitely would be. Labour party member or not. And just to be clear. I do not assume that everyone willing to lend an ear or their support to Reform is a racist. But they definitely do attract the racist vote and racists and phobes of various kinds appear to be happy in the party. Farage himself boast abouts how he destroyed the BNP. How do you think he did it? By using the power of persuasion to convince their supporters that their racism was misguided? Or by dog whistling their support for racism themselves but being less overt about it in order to both appear more respectable on the surface, and attract non-racist supporters too? It is definitely the latter. Scratch the surface of Reform and it is obvious where most of the former BNP support has gone. Do they appeal to you by any chance? I know you are not a racist, unlike a few others in this thread, but there are many policy offerings that have nothing to do with racism. Do you like the idea of still more cuts to public services and welfare to fund more tax cuts using dodgy sums? An insurance based model for the NHS? Let's be clear here. I myself very much like their idea of raising the basic rate threshold to £20k. It would help low paid working people like me a lot. I just don't believe that it is remotely deliverable any time soon without substantial tax increases elsewhere, or swingeing cuts to public services already on their knees. Or both. And voting for a bunch of racists because they promise to deliver for ordinary people, whilst overlooking, denying, or minimising their racism, is exactly what the Germans did in the early 30s. Fortunately, the decent majority here which abhors bigotry will never make that mistake. Calling someone an "effing P*ki will repel most decent people. And the supporters of Reform clearly don't get that even if the guy who said it was a plant, they themselves being all over the internet - including here - making light of it, agreeing with it or seeing nothing wrong with it are themselves - many barely concealed racists - just proving the point and broadcasting for all to see that the cancer of racism is alive and kicking inside Reform and amongst substantial chunks of it's support base. If the guy who made the comment is a plant, they are doing his job for them and playing into his hands. This very thread is serving to demonstrate that. And the more this breaks the surface or is uncovered the more decent people will be repelled by Reform. The racists out there will love it of course. Their support for Reform will be rock solid. But there are just not enough such knuckle draggers out there to deliver a real electoral breakthrough. However over-represented they are on this forum. And you personally, whilst not a racist yourself and generally being economically progressive when in sensible mode, have a pronounced tendency to be attracted to right wing populist causes whilst overlooking any inherent flaws, minimising them, or engaging in overt whataboutery, which you did above in the comments I am responding to. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2024 11:24:36 GMT
Nothing else going on in your coven forum ..... LOL It's a bit hard to debate in an echo chamber. The poor little snowflakes will soon get bored.
I mean, their most popular thread was one about trolling this place.
How sad can they be? Even sadder is that you lot have paid any attention to it and cannot resist talking about it. I actually post on three politics forums. This is only one of them. So go find the third one i post on if you are sad enough. |
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Post by wapentake on Jun 29, 2024 12:11:12 GMT
Which I referred to in my first line Would it be ok to label everybody who supports labour is an anti semite?No, but labelling someone who sees nothing wrong with calling a Jew an "effing y*d" or sees nothing wrong with anyone else doing so an antisemite definitely would be. Labour party member or not. And just to be clear. I do not assume that everyone willing to lend an ear or their support to Reform is a racist. But they definitely do attract the racist vote and racists and phobes of various kinds appear to be happy in the party. Farage himself boast abouts how he destroyed the BNP. How do you think he did it? By using the power of persuasion to convince their supporters that their racism was misguided? Or by dog whistling their support for racism themselves but being less overt about it in order to both appear more respectable on the surface, and attract non-racist supporters too? It is definitely the latter. Scratch the surface of Reform and it is obvious where most of the former BNP support has gone. Do they appeal to you by any chance? I know you are not a racist, unlike a few others in this thread, but there are many policy offerings that have nothing to do with racism. Do you like the idea of still more cuts to public services and welfare to fund more tax cuts using dodgy sums? An insurance based model for the NHS? Let's be clear here. I myself very much like their idea of raising the basic rate threshold to £20k. It would help low paid working people like me a lot. I just don't believe that it is remotely deliverable any time soon without substantial tax increases elsewhere, or swingeing cuts to public services already on their knees. Or both. And voting for a bunch of racists because they promise to deliver for ordinary people, whilst overlooking, denying, or minimising their racism, is exactly what the Germans did in the early 30s. Fortunately, the decent majority here which abhors bigotry will never make that mistake. Calling someone an "effing P*ki will repel most decent people. And the supporters of Reform clearly don't get that even if the guy who said it was a plant, they themselves being all over the internet - including here - making light of it, agreeing with it or seeing nothing wrong with it are themselves - many barely concealed racists - just proving the point and broadcasting for all to see that the cancer of racism is alive and kicking inside Reform and amongst substantial chunks of it's support base. If the guy who made the comment is a plant, they are doing his job for them and playing into his hands. This very thread is serving to demonstrate that. And the more this breaks the surface or is uncovered the more decent people will be repelled by Reform. The racists out there will love it of course. Their support for Reform will be rock solid. But there are just not enough such knuckle draggers out there to deliver a real electoral breakthrough. However over-represented they are on this forum. And you personally, whilst not a racist yourself and generally being economically progressive when in sensible mode, have a pronounced tendency to be attracted to right wing populist causes whilst overlooking any inherent flaws, minimising them, or engaging in overt whataboutery, which you did above in the comments I am responding to. No I’m not racist but the whataboutery is as I’ve always maintained a tool used to close down others arguments. There is racism and loony's in all the parties and I’m not swayed by so called populism,I see it neither as racist nor populist to be worried about the uncontrolled influx. Not far from where I live there is a sizeable community whose origins are Afro Caribbean and it might surprise how many of them share the same concerns. |
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Post by patman post on Jun 29, 2024 12:29:14 GMT
Well I'm outraged by a Reform activist calling Sunak a P*ki. You clearly aren't. No, you're just an outraged lefty who's jumping on an opportunist band waggon without doing any fact checking, and no one will be surprised by that. Farage insists this is a set up. He claims this canvasser, Andrew Parker, is in fact an actor, naturally you will sneer. Channel 4 have denied that Andrew Parker, the 'activist' in question is an actor. But he is an actor, see link below. Andrew Parker the Reform canvasser put on a very broad estuary accent, but in reality he has a very clipped well spoken accent. www.mandy.com/u/andrew-parker-1/Are actors not permitted to be politically active? Admittedly, it's not done Laurence Fox and Reclaim much good.
Channel 4's recordings also feature a conversation with George Jones, a long-time party activist who organises events for Mr Farage.
In the footage Mr Jones calls a Pride flag on a police car as a "degenerate flag". He says members of the LGBT+ community are paedos and criticises police attending Pride. He adds that, should Reform UK form a future government, “our police officers will be paramilitaries, they won’t be police” and should “bring back the noose”.
Speaking to ITV's Loose Women, Mr Farage called the comments "vulgar, drunk and wrong" and claimed people in the group were "gone", but are they?.
So rather like Farage's Ukip offered Tonbridge Wells Blue Rinses and Col Blimps with a decent home for their BNP sympathies, his Reform Ltd's extremists now appear to be picking up similar support.
Why are criticisms of Farage classed as smears by some, while continuing lies and accusations of Labour front benchers disproved alleged wrong doings are still voiced...?
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