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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 27, 2024 12:18:56 GMT
There were a lot of lies about covid on the internet. The Reform Party seem to have been fooled for one*, and then there was Johnson, Trump and GB News.
I remember during covid there was not a lot to do, so instead of getting bored, I spent a long time learning about the biochemistry of it and pulled in as much science as I could. On the positive side I was impressed by the scientist's work and heard from a lot of good people, but at the same time there were another bunch telling dangerous lies. I knew straight away they were lies because I studied the science and got an understanding on how all this stuff works, how you model it, the genetics and all sorts, so scientists split into two camps. The vast majority were honest, some were just inept, but then there were others who were telling blatant fibs which angered me greatly. These people telling fibs on mainstream media with audiences in the millions have likely caused the death of many people upon each time the lies were told. That's the bottom line, essentially murdering innocent members of the public by telling them things that would put their lives in great danger. You can't get any more evil than causing mass death.
So one question remains. Who are these people? Now the dust has settled it has given people the time to do some further research, and here I have it. This document comes with a leak of files from the Ministry of Truth. You can see how it works.
Oh do bear in mind this system they had is likely to be widely replicated for other covert operations, e.g. I suspect similar is in operation pushing Trans rights and censoring opposition etc.
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Post by patman post on Jun 27, 2024 15:20:50 GMT
You're looking correct and plausible on this one. Covid saw cock-ups, intentional CYA actions, and politically driven misinformation.
It's still fuelling the trolls and anti-vaxxers, who are still causing harm through parents believing the pseudo-science promoted by the likes (and followers) of Andrew Wakefield, fraudster, discredited academic, anti-vaccine activist, and former physician...
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Post by sandypine on Jun 27, 2024 15:56:21 GMT
You're looking correct and plausible on this one. Covid saw cock-ups, intentional CYA actions, and politically driven misinformation. It's still fuelling the trolls and anti-vaxxers, who are still causing harm through parents believing the pseudo-science promoted by the likes (and followers) of Andrew Wakefield, fraudster, discredited academic, anti-vaccine activist, and former physician... I am not sure which one is worse pseudo science blocking the use of drugs or incomplete unproven science driven forward through political force to promote the use of drugs. I would tend to favour the former as not using a good drug is surely better than using a bad drug. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2024 16:05:54 GMT
You're looking correct and plausible on this one. Covid saw cock-ups, intentional CYA actions, and politically driven misinformation. It's still fuelling the trolls and anti-vaxxers, who are still causing harm through parents believing the pseudo-science promoted by the likes (and followers) of Andrew Wakefield, fraudster, discredited academic, anti-vaccine activist, and former physician... I am not sure which one is worse pseudo science blocking the use of drugs or incomplete unproven science driven forward through political force to promote the use of drugs. I would tend to favour the former as not using a good drug is surely better than using a bad drug. Some people just follow the orders they're given by the establishment without question. Those who were seen to be questioning official doctrine were shut down, which I would argue was part of the social experiment. However, many were mentally incapacitated by the initial fear propaganda and ran out there with their sleeves rolled up to to be injected with experimental vaccines. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 27, 2024 16:22:25 GMT
This is the bio from Google Books of one of Ireland's main disinformation agents.
And just to look at one of the main ones behind the Barrington Declaration
Do you notice something here?
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Post by patman post on Jun 27, 2024 16:55:58 GMT
I thought my response would pull the gullible, easily persuaded, and contrarians out into the open.
Accepting advice from an NHS and qualified personnel that have generally served us well is my/our choice for ourselves and our children. For Covid, we saw lessons of the problems in Italy being ignored by the UK government, and judged for ourselves as qualified advisers were silenced, and practitioners ordered to ignore common sense…
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 27, 2024 18:05:23 GMT
I thought my response would pull the gullible, easily persuaded, and contrarians out into the open. Accepting advice from an NHS and qualified personnel that have generally served us well is my/our choice for ourselves and our children. For Covid, we saw lessons of the problems in Italy being ignored by the UK government, and judged for ourselves as qualified advisers were silenced, and practitioners ordered to ignore common sense… Yes I was aware of that. There is an important lesson here. We were told to ignore crackpots and to take seriously the advice from qualified medical and other professional personnel. It seems perfectly reasonable, doesn't it? Yet it is not, and the fallacy contained in this advice is the familiar argumentum ab auctoritate (argument from authority). But you may retort, these people are regularly checked and so forth. Well from my above two bios, we can see that those highly trained people were behind lying to us and killing us in huge numbers, maybe millions of us. This is because they got the ear of the US government and the UK government. We have a serious problem. Now the normal thing to do in cases where people have killed others deliberately is we put them behind bars for many years as a deterrent. I do not think this has happened. By the way, the advice contained another fallacy too which you might have spotted. It's the old false dichotomy. You don't have to chose either of the two options of lying professionals or crackpots. You might find another way of finding the truth like I did. |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 27, 2024 20:26:04 GMT
I thought my response would pull the gullible, easily persuaded, and contrarians out into the open. Accepting advice from an NHS and qualified personnel that have generally served us well is my/our choice for ourselves and our children. For Covid, we saw lessons of the problems in Italy being ignored by the UK government, and judged for ourselves as qualified advisers were silenced, and practitioners ordered to ignore common sense… However the NHS is basing that advice on the advice it receives from those whose science is both unproven and even worse ineffectively tested. There are contrarian views on the science by many involved in the research and production. It is not an MMR type 'scare' it has many eminent medical experts who are very unhappy with the process of 'vaccinating' the whole population as a protective measure for the population. In the main vaccination is a process used to protect the person being vaccinated and describing something as 'safe and effective' when that was clearly not known is at best misrepresentation which is often described as lying. |
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