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Post by Vinny on Jun 24, 2024 6:39:48 GMT
How is screening out criminals "punishing" a majority?
And by the way, Albania, where many of the illegal immigrants are coming from, is a safe country.
The only Albanians who should be allowed in are those with visas, those who can be trusted.
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Post by sandypine on Jun 24, 2024 7:10:01 GMT
So, we have to be very careful who we let in. We have in the past given Rwandan genocide suspects the right to live here despite coming illegally. We have given Albanian gangsters the right to live here. Even slavers have been allowed into our country. We need to be more careful. Not everyone in the world is a nice person. We need to keep criminals out. And not everone a criminal why punish the majority for the Actions of a minorirty Thats what your saying. Couple of points; We have not enough room, social services, housing, health care and general infrastructure currently to allow any in, realistically at best it should be severely restricted. We are balancing risk, the risk of criminals arriving to the detriment of the UK population and the risk we deny an innocent illegal migrant the right to stay. It is not always fair but then life seldom is. There is always a majority to be acted upon unfairly, why should that majority be the UK population to be put at higher risk of crime? |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 24, 2024 8:10:50 GMT
The no borders people would concrete every field and build houses until there is nothing left to build on.
And nothing to eat.
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Post by Totheleft on Jun 24, 2024 8:30:19 GMT
And not everone a criminal why punish the majority for the Actions of a minorirty Thats what your saying. Couple of points; We have not enough room, social services, housing, health care and general infrastructure currently to allow any in, realistically at best it should be severely restricted. We are balancing risk, the risk of criminals arriving to the detriment of the UK population and the risk we deny an innocent illegal migrant the right to stay. It is not always fair but then life seldom is. There is always a majority to be acted upon unfairly, why should that majority be the UK population to be put at higher risk of crime? 1/how much would the population increase by 0.001%? 2/the majority of the Country will benifit. 3/why is there a higher risk of crime. When in general the population has increased but crime fallen over the period of time . |
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Post by Totheleft on Jun 24, 2024 8:32:48 GMT
The no borders people would concrete every field and build houses until there is nothing left to build on. And nothing to eat. Funny how immigration has massive increased since Brexit. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 24, 2024 8:34:11 GMT
The government has been putting illegal immigrants up in 5* hotels.
If you were an illegal immigrant, where would you want to be?
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Post by Totheleft on Jun 24, 2024 8:43:45 GMT
The government has been putting illegal immigrants up in 5* hotels. If you were an illegal immigrant, where would you want to be? The Brexit government has let's get it right . But let's answer your question put up in a 5 star hotel or face the risk of death What you choose. You do know men woman and children have died doing the crossing. Thought you was a humatrian. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 24, 2024 8:46:13 GMT
Brexit is just independence, government can still cock up.
Putting people from safe countries into hotels just means more come.
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Post by Totheleft on Jun 24, 2024 8:53:13 GMT
Brexit is just independence, government can still cock up. Putting people from safe countries into hotels just means more come. The Independent www.independent.co.ukHow many migrants have died trying to cross English Channel as ... 24 Apr 2024 — More than 200 migrants have died trying to cross the English Channel over the past decade, the latest figures show, If you give rhem Armistice then they won't die get the big picture. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2024 9:25:13 GMT
What you call asylum seekers are sometimes fanatical religious extremists. Salman Abedi was not someone we needed in this country. Family of extremists who came here illegally and were mistakenly allowed to stay. And through fanaticism, that man turned terrorist and blew innocent people up. But it's culturally enriching and these people make good teachers. We need hardline Islamic terrorists to create the desired environment. Think about it. Every Islamic terrorist attack leads to what they call Islamophobia. Every Islamic terrorist attack makes big state stronger and the people weaker. We require more draconian laws, less freedom and the total shut down of free speech. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 24, 2024 9:30:40 GMT
Those who die trying to cross the channel, were encouraged by the idiotic policy of putting people into hotels, rather than tented illegal immigration removal camps on remote (wet) Scottish islands.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2024 9:43:00 GMT
Butis it really idiotic? We have to get them here using every possible means - the more the merrier. We have to change the demographics of the country to make destroying it easier. Once it gets to the stage where people are indoctrinated from birth it will become paradise. We could even make stupidity mandatory, and Labour could do this without even trying.
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Post by Bentley on Jun 24, 2024 11:48:32 GMT
No. I think it would be better for the UK to declare that anyone that enters the country illegally will never ever be permitted to live here permanently. Ok i understand your point but dont you think them paying 1000s to cross the Channel could be a benefit to the Country ? No. |
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Post by Dogburger on Jun 24, 2024 12:11:10 GMT
Im not interested in any ideas that allow illegal immigrants to stay in the UK .
Deportation is the only recourse .
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 24, 2024 12:34:40 GMT
Seeing Asylum seekers pay 10s of thousabds of pounds to illegally get to the Country . I think it be good to propose a Armistice if thats the right word . For them to see if they can benefit the country . I also proposal that the cant recive state benefits for 3 yrs . Or get soical housing for 5 yrs What you guys think ? Serious discussion please No. I know it’s what you want to destroy what remains of the identity of what used to be a country worth defending, but as i have said too many times, long before there was an EEC never mind an EU there was a UN and a treaty we signed. Any refugee seeking refuge from war or oersecution for a whole load of things has only to apply to any EU authority and IF their case is upheld they can come here or any other country signatory to that treaty You snd yiur pals want that to be replaced with a free ride No. No. And again, No. the way for genuine seekers if refuge is slready marked, open, and welcoming. Only lying, cheating, freeloading scum NEED yo try itbon in a dinghy. Which begs the question seeing as the EU is full of rabid leftys why are these illegsls not told this on the calais beaches, ir for that matter the Lampedusa ones |
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