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Post by steppenwolf on Jun 19, 2024 6:25:53 GMT
I see the usual suspects have attacked Farage for his contract/manifesto that involves borrowing about 140 billion without any credible means of raising this money. Even Andrew Neil has been pretty scathing about it. The thing is that all the other main parties have a policy of achieving "net zero" which is basically a blank cheque - Reform don't support net zero.
None of the parties who support net zero have costed it. When asked about the cost the response is that it's a lot cheaper than the alternative - which is very arguable. The cost of net zero is stratospheric (it's in trillions rather than the usual govt spending which is in billions). It will hobble economies for decades.
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Post by sandypine on Jun 19, 2024 8:14:50 GMT
I see the usual suspects have attacked Farage for his contract/manifesto that involves borrowing about 140 billion without any credible means of raising this money. Even Andrew Neil has been pretty scathing about it. The thing is that all the other main parties have a policy of achieving "net zero" which is basically a blank cheque - Reform don't support net zero. None of the parties who support net zero have costed it. When asked about the cost the response is that it's a lot cheaper than the alternative - which is very arguable. The cost of net zero is stratospheric (it's in trillions rather than the usual govt spending which is in billions). It will hobble economies for decades. Yes, net-zero, the catch all and excuse all based on dodgy science and adopted as an undeniable fact by politicians and globalists primarily for their own purposes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2024 10:20:24 GMT
I'd be interested to hear Reform's energy policy, as there is an energy deficit nearly every day as we import electricity from continental interconnectors.
We are far too reliant on these. Nuclear is the answer, but they take so long to build, but being energy self sufficient is vital in times of conflict, and we can all see conflicy coming, can't we?
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Post by Dogburger on Jun 19, 2024 10:29:54 GMT
I'd be interested to hear Reform's energy policy, as there is an energy deficit nearly every day as we import electricity from continental interconnectors. We are far too reliant on these. Nuclear is the answer, but they take so long to build, but being energy self sufficient is vital in times of conflict, and we can all see conflicy coming, can't we? Farage has said in the past he would continue to use fossil fuels ,ours preferably until the nuclear option was ready to go .He has also said he has nothing against green energy when the technology and cost of it was right . Sounds good to me. But on the OP Farage hasn't really got to cost anything as its not a manifesto ,its a contract to the people as to the direction of travel he would push in opposition which is his best outcome . A costed manifesto will come in 2029 when the party will be in a better position for government |
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Post by steppenwolf on Jun 20, 2024 6:49:06 GMT
The reality is we're going to need fossil fuels for decades to come. What gets me is that the mainstream parties don't seem to understand that net zero is bound to shrink the economy. GDP will crash - that's the point of it. Any party that supports net zero but whose plans depend on "growth" (as Labour's do) is financially illiterate.
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Post by sandypine on Jun 20, 2024 7:15:32 GMT
The reality is we're going to need fossil fuels for decades to come. What gets me is that the mainstream parties don't seem to understand that net zero is bound to shrink the economy. GDP will crash - that's the point of it. Any party that supports net zero but whose plans depend on "growth" (as Labour's do) is financially illiterate. Net zero may be fine as a long term aspiration but as a policy target with defined dates it needs to be clearly defined what it entails, what it will cost, what it will mean to ordinary voters, what actions will be taken, what specific investments will be made and what laws will be passed to meet those target dates. So far we are broadly none the wiser. |
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Post by piglet on Jun 20, 2024 9:29:02 GMT
Britain donates less than one per cent of emissions, yet we actually try to curb it through net zero. The thinking behind it is that Britain walks the walk, showing the world we mean business, it encourages other countries to do the same.
Fat chance there. Im sure many countries laugh, it doesnt work like that when others are trying to run a country, run steam trains, create steel, want to get to work....in a car, want electric to run owt, from coal.
Its not working Mr Government, while britain pays for nowt, stop being silly. When everyone buys in, then do it, not on our own. Change will come, China, USA Russia etc, when something really bad happens, change only occurs in crisis. Then again, the rise in temperture may not be about gas, it may be natural. Who knows, in this case Britain is even dumber than we can imagine.
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