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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 16, 2024 14:08:32 GMT
The choice is clear: Give Reform a chance or vote for the "More of the same, Establishment Party" (now available in three exciting colours but all the same flavour).
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Post by jonksy on Jun 16, 2024 14:13:42 GMT
The choice is clear: Give Reform a chance or vote for the "More of the same, Establishment Party" (now available in three exciting colours but all the same flavour). I can't wait to see labour get in and the self appointed so called intelligent and superior educated dumfucks having to eat their own words... |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 16, 2024 14:46:14 GMT
On the Brightside Labour and conservatives are going to have the smallest vote share between them like ever. Village hall fast heading their way.
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Post by patman post on Jun 16, 2024 14:52:37 GMT
Labour have won this election, from now until July 4th it's a race for second place. I do not agree. Both Tory and Labour are not enthusing the nation, it is the end of the road whereby selection was not upon who you wanted but was on who you did not want. The Red wall finally showed that Labour could not rely on the working class vote and that taking some form of cognizance of what the people actually wanted was necessary to garner votes and delivering that was vitally important. It is clear the people do not want the Tories and it is increasing clear they do not want Labour who are in the lead by default as opposed to having a programme suitable for the electorate. As the weeks and programmes unfold I am not sure if Labour will win a landslide, but maybe that is wishful thinking, currently there is all to play for. It's true that neither Labour nor Tory are gathering the pop star adulation — more suited to teenage ravings for Michael Jackson — that was previously lavished on Boris Johnson.
But it could be that, after the behaviour and disclosures of the activities of those formerly worshipped idols, the UK electorate wants a period of calm competence from a party which is pulling together under a competent leader and not squabbling among its members over whether an outside personality should join and take it over.
That's why the news media is giving this election so much coverage, and public interest is at its high level.
In fact, it's not boredom and/or uninterested punters that's providing polling companies with data showing the Tories down four points to just 21% of the vote (Savanta, Sunday Telegraph) and (Survation, published by The Sunday Times) predicting Tories would win just 72 seats in the next parliament, compared with 456 for Labour...
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Post by sheepy on Jun 16, 2024 15:09:10 GMT
I do not agree. Both Tory and Labour are not enthusing the nation, it is the end of the road whereby selection was not upon who you wanted but was on who you did not want. The Red wall finally showed that Labour could not rely on the working class vote and that taking some form of cognizance of what the people actually wanted was necessary to garner votes and delivering that was vitally important. It is clear the people do not want the Tories and it is increasing clear they do not want Labour who are in the lead by default as opposed to having a programme suitable for the electorate. As the weeks and programmes unfold I am not sure if Labour will win a landslide, but maybe that is wishful thinking, currently there is all to play for. It's true that neither Labour nor Tory are gathering the pop star adulation — more suited to teenage ravings for Michael Jackson — that was previously lavished on Boris Johnson.
But it could be that, after the behaviour and disclosures of the activities of those formerly worshipped idols, the UK electorate wants a period of calm competence from a party which is pulling together under a competent leader and not squabbling among its members over whether an outside personality should join and take it over.
That's why the news media is giving this election so much coverage, and public interest is at its high level.
In fact, it's not boredom and/or uninterested punters that's providing polling companies with data showing the Tories down four points to just 21% of the vote (Savanta, Sunday Telegraph) and (Survation, published by The Sunday Times) predicting Tories would win just 72 seats in the next parliament, compared with 456 for Labour...
Now don't start crying as the only poll that counts is on the 4th of July, but...... www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/tory-vote-collapse-so-bad-labour-argue-only-they-can-beat-farage-in-clacton/ar-BB1ojZZH?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=cb9eaeb257ec4ab7b9c1ec9cbf8de6f9&ei=16 |
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Post by patman post on Jun 16, 2024 15:16:25 GMT
It's true that neither Labour nor Tory are gathering the pop star adulation — more suited to teenage ravings for Michael Jackson — that was previously lavished on Boris Johnson.
But it could be that, after the behaviour and disclosures of the activities of those formerly worshipped idols, the UK electorate wants a period of calm competence from a party which is pulling together under a competent leader and not squabbling among its members over whether an outside personality should join and take it over.
That's why the news media is giving this election so much coverage, and public interest is at its high level.
In fact, it's not boredom and/or uninterested punters that's providing polling companies with data showing the Tories down four points to just 21% of the vote (Savanta, Sunday Telegraph) and (Survation, published by The Sunday Times) predicting Tories would win just 72 seats in the next parliament, compared with 456 for Labour...
Now don't start crying as the only poll that counts is on the 4th of July, but...... www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/tory-vote-collapse-so-bad-labour-argue-only-they-can-beat-farage-in-clacton/ar-BB1ojZZH?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=cb9eaeb257ec4ab7b9c1ec9cbf8de6f9&ei=16I'm not crying — I want this administration gone and its Militant Far Right Tendency driven out of the true Conservative Party in a way that a couple of terms in opposition could facilitate... |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 16, 2024 15:28:11 GMT
I'm not crying — I want this administration gone and its Militant Far Right Tendency driven out of the true Conservative Party in a way that a couple of terms in opposition could facilitate... Having seen what Farage can do with a rogue Parliament I think they might all be getting a kick in the backside., |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2024 15:48:31 GMT
Gadzooks.
71% reform so far. I wonder how many will wimp out on the day.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 16, 2024 16:51:29 GMT
Gadzooks. 71% reform so far. I wonder how many will wimp out on the day. I hope they don't, but I'd say 50%. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 16, 2024 17:41:13 GMT
In fact, it's not boredom and/or uninterested punters that's providing polling companies with data showing the Tories down four points to just 21% of the vote (Savanta, Sunday Telegraph) and (Survation, published by The Sunday Times) predicting Tories would win just 72 seats in the next parliament,
Good - 14 years of the One Nation Tories in charge have driven the Party to the edge of destruction and they deserve to be cast out into the wilderness. Either the Tory Party after the election rediscover what it means to be a Tory or their natural supporters will permanently migrate to Reform.
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Post by piglet on Jun 17, 2024 8:23:29 GMT
This is not a boring election, its absolutley fascinating, who could have predicted the destruction of the Tory party, and when voting day comes, we can all watch the Tory ship sink, and celebrate.
It should have been Labour.
Change is coming, we cant have upper class uni twits running stuff anymore, we need Joe Bloggs from no 56 who just so happens, does not need anti psychotic meds, and goes to Benidorm for a holiday. Its not about left v right anymore, but about common sense, a casualty from a long time ago.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 17, 2024 9:48:11 GMT
I should perhaps have said people do not want this Tory party. People realistically wanted Boris's Tory party and if he had set himself to the programme he outlined they may well be now riding high, but he lost the plot, covid got in the way and the one nation Tories took their chance. It seems Boris wanted to be Prime Minister without actually being PM Boris was far more pro EU, pro immigration and pro net zero than most people appear to be aware, or are willing to admit. He was a good communicator who talked a good fight but underneath all his pro Britain bluster, he wasn't a centre right Conservative. I think many Boris fans are looking back through rose tinted specs because Sunak is so bad. Having said that, I accept the Tories would certainly be in a better place today if Boris was still prime minister. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2024 10:36:19 GMT
This is not a boring election, its absolutley fascinating, who could have predicted the destruction of the Tory party, and when voting day comes, we can all watch the Tory ship sink, and celebrate. It should have been Labour. Change is coming, we cant have upper class uni twits running stuff anymore, we need Joe Bloggs from no 56 who just so happens, does not need anti psychotic meds, and goes to Benidorm for a holiday. Its not about left v right anymore, but about common sense, a casualty from a long time ago. Change is always coming, but nothing is getting better. We are just being lied to at a furious rate now, as politicians realise they don't have us all on a lead like pet poodles. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 17, 2024 14:45:44 GMT
Here’s an interesting piece that reveals who is now controlling our Country … and planning to send 95% white indigenous UK troops/ loyalists abroad to die on the killing fields of Ukraine … using our military and tax-payers ££££ to fund their genocidal wars … NATO, EU and Israeli war-mongering expansionism …
…. whilst immigrants flood in through broken borders … Labour and Tories have no plan to bring our troops home to attend this serious security issue …. Vote Reform/ + Independent candidates …
Learn here the detail who is really bankrolling Kier Starmer … and why the puppet won’t be honest about the tail that wags the dog of the New Labour Party … the famous fence-sitters on Gaza genocide and Brexit betrayal.
Do not vote for these people …. we need to be FREE from this evil and it’s censorship of our Country, social Media and culture.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 19, 2024 13:02:13 GMT
It would seem at least 65% of the forum so far are voting for Reform UK, pity that vote wont be replicated on 4th July. Or will it?..  |
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