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Post by Totheleft on Jun 14, 2024 13:04:29 GMT
A serio pedophile who abused Baby's in a Nursery in Rochdale who was jailed indefinitely was refused his freedom.
In A appeal court yesterday
So it was reported in the Manchester evening news yesterday.
Not wanting to draw comparison with the so called grooming cases because there nothing more Sickling then Abusing sexualy babies .
But can't see why the Grooming beast weren't jailed indefinitely.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 14, 2024 15:58:12 GMT
There is a cure for such people. Unfortunately a Labour government abolished that cure.
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Post by Totheleft on Jun 14, 2024 17:21:01 GMT
There is a cure for such people. Unfortunately a Labour government abolished that cure. When you consider the innocents hanged good job labour abolished it .
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Post by Vinny on Jun 14, 2024 17:26:23 GMT
Not when you consider the innocents killed by reoffenders.
Besides forensic tech these days is amazing. Look at the conviction of Ian Huntley, the evidence which caught him, were very specific seeds of the plants where he'd hidden the bodies. The combination of seeds and soil with a specific pH to that of the soil where the bodies were found, resulted in the scumbag changing his plea and admitting his guilt.
With modern tech, when there's really good evidence, there's really good case for rope. Where there is doubt, whole life unless new evidence comes to light to acquit.
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Post by Totheleft on Jun 14, 2024 17:29:59 GMT
Not when you consider the innocents killed by reoffenders. Besides forensic tech these days is amazing. Look at the conviction of Ian Huntley, the evidence which caught him, were very specific seeds of the plants where he'd hidden the bodies. The combination of seeds and soil with a specific pH to that of the soil where the bodies were found, resulted in the scumbag changing his plea and admitting his guilt. With modern tech, when there's really good evidence, there's really good case for rope. Where there is doubt, whole life unless new evidence comes to light to acquit. So your saying innocent people ain't been found guilty of murder or rape these days. Pull the other one
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Post by Totheleft on Jun 14, 2024 18:07:27 GMT
Not when you consider the innocents killed by reoffenders. Besides forensic tech these days is amazing. Look at the conviction of Ian Huntley, the evidence which caught him, were very specific seeds of the plants where he'd hidden the bodies. The combination of seeds and soil with a specific pH to that of the soil where the bodies were found, resulted in the scumbag changing his plea and admitting his guilt. With modern tech, when there's really good evidence, there's really good case for rope. Where there is doubt, whole life unless new evidence comes to light to acquit. Long list of miscages of justices including murder and rape "robust" and that none of the shortfalls or discrepancies in sub-postmasters' branch accounts were due to problems caused by Horizon.[185] Sub-postmasters unwilling or unable to make good the shortfalls were sometimes prosecuted (by the Post Office's in-house prosecution team) for theft, false accounting and/or fraud. Between 1991 and 2015 there were 918 successful prosecutions.[186][187] These were largely private prosecutions by the Post Office relying on IT evidence alone, without proof of criminal intent. Public prosecutions also occurred in Scotland, Northern Ireland and in Crown Courts. Despite this, some sub-postmasters were successfully persuaded by their own solicitors to plead guilty to false accounting, on being told the Post Office would drop theft charges. Once the Post Office had a criminal conviction, it would attempt to secure a Proceeds of Crime Act Order against convicted sub-postmasters, allowing it to seize their assets and bankrupt them.[188] According to press reports, these actions by the Post Office caused the loss of dozens of jobs, bankruptcy, divorce, unwarranted prison sentences and one documented suicide.[189][190] 2001 Barry George Murder London Life imprisonment 7 years Yes, 2008 Barry George was cleared on August 1, 2008, of the 1999 murder of TV presenter Jill Dando after a retrial in which police were unable to rely on discredited forensic evidence. 2004 Sam Hallam Murder London Minimum of 12 years' imprisonment 7 years Yes, 2012 (no compensation) Sam Hallam was wrongly jailed for life in 2005 for the murder of Essayas Kassahun. He was released in May 2012 after prosecutors told three senior judges that they would not oppose his appeal.[191] 2011 Ched Evans Rape Rhyl 5 years 2 years 6 months Yes, 2016 Evans, a professional footballer, was convicted in 2012 of the rape of a woman. In 2015 the Criminal Cases Review Commission referred the case to the Court of Appeal, having examined new evidence from two of the complainant's previous sexual partners about her behaviour, which bore similarities to Evans's account that the Commission decided "could not reasonably be explained as a coincidence". In 2016 the Court of Appeal quashed the conviction and ordered a retrial, at which Evans was found not guilty. 2012 Shirley and Lynette Banfield Murder Harrow, London Life imprisonment 1 year Yes*,[g] 2013 A mother and daughter who were convicted of the murder of their husband/father after it was found that they had financially gained from his disappearance in 2001, had tried to murder him on previous occasions, and had lied about seeing him in 2008. They pled guilty to fraud, forgery and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice and were found guilty of the murder. They were released on appeal one year later, even though their defence said that the "likelihood" was that "one or other" of the women had murdered him, as they had been convicted under joint enterprise and the judges said that the case required the "application of the established law" and ruled that there was insufficient evidence to prove that they had both acted together to kill him.[192][193]
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Post by jonksy on Jun 15, 2024 11:54:00 GMT
There is a cure for such people. Unfortunately a Labour government abolished that cure. Exactly Vinny and is less expensive for the taxpayers.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 15, 2024 12:37:34 GMT
Not when you consider the innocents killed by reoffenders. Besides forensic tech these days is amazing. Look at the conviction of Ian Huntley, the evidence which caught him, were very specific seeds of the plants where he'd hidden the bodies. The combination of seeds and soil with a specific pH to that of the soil where the bodies were found, resulted in the scumbag changing his plea and admitting his guilt. With modern tech, when there's really good evidence, there's really good case for rope. Where there is doubt, whole life unless new evidence comes to light to acquit. So your saying innocent people ain't been found guilty of murder or rape these days. Pull the other one Not what I said at all. All too often convicted murderers are actually released, some have reoffended. Clifton Rapist for example, he was imprisoned for murder in the 60's, he should never have been released, but he was. And if our legal system is going to be so soft as to release actual murderers, then I am going to wistfully look to the time when our legal system wasn't soft and would have hanged that rapey bastard by his neck until he was dead.
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