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Post by Ripley on Jun 14, 2024 17:03:43 GMT
It's entirely possible that Starmer is saving money because he buys quality. His £500 coat will probably last years longer than one that is less well constructed and of poorer quality fabric. Most of the people he represents don't get that choice. Are you saying that he can't represent people who don't have that choice because he currently has it? Or are you saying that because most people don't get that choice, he shouldn't have it either? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 14, 2024 17:07:58 GMT
Most of the people he represents don't get that choice. Are you saying that he can't represent people who don't have that choice because he currently has it? Or are you saying that because most people don't get that choice, he shouldn't have it either? No, what I am saying .... don't tell people they know what it's like not being able to pay bills when you are wearing a £500 coat, it stinks of hypocrisy .. |
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 14, 2024 17:13:53 GMT
It's entirely possible that Starmer is saving money because he buys quality. His £500 coat will probably last years longer than one that is less well constructed and of poorer quality fabric. With his wealth I would expect him to buy quality - surely nobody expects him to shop at Primark? He has had £20k of clothing and glasses freebies donated to him Just days after Sir Keir Starmer was spotted wearing a £500 hoodie from luxury French fashion house Sandro, it has emerged that a peer donated nearly £20,000 to help the Labour leader with a pre-election glow-up.Former ASOS chairman Waheed Alli, who sits in the House of Lords, gave stylish Starmer £16,200 for “work clothing” and a further £2,485 for “multiple pairs of glasses”, according to the latest update to his register of interests.The Labour leader appears to have put that donation to good use after he donned a chic Sandro Orion jacket – which currently retails at £519 at Harrods – while meeting voters in Brighton and pledging to tackle the cost of living crisis.www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/keir-starmer-clothing-donation-expensive-jacket-fashion-b2554405.html |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 14, 2024 17:32:24 GMT
Are you saying that he can't represent people who don't have that choice because he currently has it? Or are you saying that because most people don't get that choice, he shouldn't have it either? No, what I am saying .... don't tell people they know what it's like not being able to pay bills when you are wearing a £500 coat, it stinks of hypocrisy .. A phone call just a minute ago, it was mentioned they wouldn't be voting for any of them, as in their opinion how could those bunch of middle-class wankers think they know how to represent the working class. I just laughed. |
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Post by Handyman on Jun 14, 2024 18:56:47 GMT
Hitler's Handmaidens on Sky History channel 123 TV. I do hope Rightists are watching this informative documentary. As you say its an informative documentary as are many on the History Channel .Not quite sure why you say Rightists should be watching it though , anyone that isn't aware of German history (1933-45 )should give it a look . Indeed there are many many Documentaries on WW2 WW1 , plus dozens of books , plus other conflicts before long before WW1 and after WW2 |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 14, 2024 19:18:38 GMT
If you move right from the left then you most probably will become far right …See2politics.
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Post by Ripley on Jun 14, 2024 20:17:30 GMT
Are you saying that he can't represent people who don't have that choice because he currently has it? Or are you saying that because most people don't get that choice, he shouldn't have it either? No, what I am saying .... don't tell people they know what it's like not being able to pay bills when you are wearing a £500 coat, it stinks of hypocrisy .. He may be wearing a £500 coat now, but he has working class roots. His father was a toolmaker and his mother had a difficult chronic illness. If he had been raised in a wealthy family and known nothing but wealth and prosperity all his life, then I'd be inclined to think that he might not be able to relate to those who know what it's like not being able to pay bills, but he had humble beginnings, and that is something I don't think anyone ever forgets. I imagine he is grateful for his prosperity and has empathy for people who are struggling, because his own family has been in their shoes. |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 14, 2024 21:06:19 GMT
No, what I am saying .... don't tell people they know what it's like not being able to pay bills when you are wearing a £500 coat, it stinks of hypocrisy .. He may be wearing a £500 coat now, but he has working class roots. His father was a toolmaker and his mother had a difficult chronic illness. If he had been raised in a wealthy family and known nothing but wealth and prosperity all his life, then I'd be inclined to think that he might not be able to relate to those who know what it's like not being able to pay bills, but he had humble beginnings, and that is something I don't think anyone ever forgets. I imagine he is grateful for his prosperity and has empathy for people who are struggling, because his own family has been in their shoes. Starmer needs to be all things to all people, while he needs their vote, be under no doubt the majority of the electorate have politicians pegged these days, the last run out by the Conservatives were enough evidence if ever they needed any. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jun 14, 2024 21:09:22 GMT
So who does the ex stock marketer reprocent his friends in tax havens ?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 14, 2024 21:12:58 GMT
Nigel represents an oasis of common sense in a desert of arse gravy.
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Post by sheepy on Jun 14, 2024 21:26:18 GMT
Nigel represents an oasis of common sense in a desert of arse gravy. Well, I am not so sure about that, but if ever he were handed a golden opportunity by the downfall of the Conservatives and Labours manifesto this must be it. After all he put everybody in the shit in the first place by telling everyone to vote Conservative, when he had no need of doing so. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 14, 2024 21:53:44 GMT
No, what I am saying .... don't tell people they know what it's like not being able to pay bills when you are wearing a £500 coat, it stinks of hypocrisy .. He may be wearing a £500 coat now, but he has working class roots. His father was a toolmaker and his mother had a difficult chronic illness. If he had been raised in a wealthy family and known nothing but wealth and prosperity all his life, then I'd be inclined to think that he might not be able to relate to those who know what it's like not being able to pay bills, but he had humble beginnings, and that is something I don't think anyone ever forgets. I imagine he is grateful for his prosperity and has empathy for people who are struggling, because his own family has been in their shoes. His father was a toolmaker who owned the company - but he was brought up in a squalid area and went to a bog standard school.. nobody can say he didn't have it tough Oxted  Reigate Grammar School  |
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 15, 2024 0:34:35 GMT
Well, it's high time the political class learnt from that then isn't it. Mea culpa. I think it is the electorate who need to understand the problem, after all it seems that the electorate are moving to the Right. It's the political class who enable runaway policy and dereliction of duty to their citizens who need to understand how they shift people's minds and views via cause and effect. |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 15, 2024 5:51:41 GMT
I think it is the electorate who need to understand the problem, after all it seems that the electorate are moving to the Right. It's the political class who enable runaway policy and dereliction of duty to their citizens who need to understand how they shift people's minds and views via cause and effect. Exactly the case. If one surveys one's situation we are told who to like, who to hate, who to employ, who to sack, who can be voted for, who cannot be voted for, who are good and who are bad, what you can say and what you cannot say; and that is currently. What holds for one for the future is how far one can drive, what vehicles you can and cannot drive, where one can and cannot drive, what one can and cannot buy, what one can and cannot eat. The rules on all of this are to be ever more stringent and restrictive for most of us while for some the rules will be overcome with cashflow. In terms of government it is reminiscent of 30s Germany and the Soviet Union |
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Post by see2 on Jun 15, 2024 6:47:25 GMT
As I posted "I condemn all unnecessary violence". Define ''necessary'' violence Really? Is English your first language? |
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