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Post by see2 on Jun 22, 2024 21:07:26 GMT
A progressive without a socialist agenda LOL Open your eyes. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 22, 2024 21:23:35 GMT
A progressive without a socialist agenda LOL Open your eyes. He said “I would describe myself as a socialist.“ Socialism…a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. So who is it that doesn’t understand what Socialist means , him or you ? |
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Post by see2 on Jun 23, 2024 8:12:53 GMT
A progressive without a socialist agenda LOL Open your eyes. He said “I would describe myself as a socialist.“ Socialism…a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. So who is it that doesn’t understand what Socialist means , him or you ? I know what Socialism is. Blair dropped Socialism from the New Labour approach but remained social minded, and that appears to be the path Starmer intends to follow. He has received plenty of criticism from the Socialists in the Labour Party for his move to the center of politics. One Socialist who posts on this forum has stated that he will not vote for Starmer because of Starmer's move to the center ground. If you see him bringing in a Socialist agenda, as described by yourself, then let me know. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 23, 2024 8:22:45 GMT
He said “I would describe myself as a socialist.“ Socialism…a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. So who is it that doesn’t understand what Socialist means , him or you ? I know what Socialism is. Blair dropped Socialism from the New Labour approach but remained social minded, and that appears to be the path Starmer intends to follow. He has received plenty of criticism from the Socialists in the Labour Party for his move to the center of politics. One Socialist who posts on this forum has stated that he will not vote for Starmer because of Starmer's move to the center ground. If you see him bringing in a Socialist agenda, as described by yourself, then let me know. Two so called socialists who couldn't wait to be knighted, they are champagne socialists while pretending to relate to the poor less well off, they enjoy the trappings of wealth, they are the worst kind of socialists. I'd rather have a party who doesn't give a fuck about the poor, than have one that pretends. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 23, 2024 8:52:12 GMT
Edit wrong thread
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Post by Bentley on Jun 23, 2024 9:30:01 GMT
He said “I would describe myself as a socialist.“ Socialism…a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. So who is it that doesn’t understand what Socialist means , him or you ? I know what Socialism is. Blair dropped Socialism from the New Labour approach but remained social minded, and that appears to be the path Starmer intends to follow. He has received plenty of criticism from the Socialists in the Labour Party for his move to the center of politics. One Socialist who posts on this forum has stated that he will not vote for Starmer because of Starmer's move to the center ground. If you see him bringing in a Socialist agenda, as described by yourself, then let me know. Waffle ^ Hesaid “I would describe myself as a socialist.“ So you know what Socialism is ( or do you ?) that just leaves Starmer being ignorant of the meaning of Socialism. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 23, 2024 10:10:54 GMT
Or a liar. Which of course he is.
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 23, 2024 12:32:57 GMT
A progressive without a socialist agenda LOL Open your eyes. Which part of his own words “I would describe myself as a socialist.'' is beyond your comprehension ? Or does his confusion about being able to define a woman and supporting self ID ( A man identifies as a woman/a cat/ a BBQ etc so they are people worthy of respect and mustn't be toxic  ) extend outside the woke? |
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Post by see2 on Jun 24, 2024 12:51:05 GMT
I know what Socialism is. Blair dropped Socialism from the New Labour approach but remained social minded, and that appears to be the path Starmer intends to follow. He has received plenty of criticism from the Socialists in the Labour Party for his move to the center of politics. One Socialist who posts on this forum has stated that he will not vote for Starmer because of Starmer's move to the center ground. If you see him bringing in a Socialist agenda, as described by yourself, then let me know. Two so called socialists who couldn't wait to be knighted, they are champagne socialists while pretending to relate to the poor less well off, they enjoy the trappings of wealth, they are the worst kind of socialists. I'd rather have a party who doesn't give a fuck about the poor, than have one that pretends. So you would sooner have a party that fucks up the NHS and State education, both of which are essential to the poorer in society. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 24, 2024 12:52:42 GMT
A progressive without a socialist agenda LOL Open your eyes. Which part of his own words “I would describe myself as a socialist.'' is beyond your comprehension ? Or does his confusion about being able to define a woman and supporting self ID ( A man identifies as a woman/a cat/ a BBQ etc so they are people worthy of respect and mustn't be toxic ) extend outside the woke? Just one more of your posts that exposes your limited thinking. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 24, 2024 12:56:44 GMT
I know what Socialism is. Blair dropped Socialism from the New Labour approach but remained social minded, and that appears to be the path Starmer intends to follow. He has received plenty of criticism from the Socialists in the Labour Party for his move to the center of politics. One Socialist who posts on this forum has stated that he will not vote for Starmer because of Starmer's move to the center ground. If you see him bringing in a Socialist agenda, as described by yourself, then let me know. Waffle ^ Hesaid “I would describe myself as a socialist.“ So you know what Socialism is ( or do you ?) that just leaves Starmer being ignorant of the meaning of Socialism. Come back when / if he reintroduces Clause 4, which Blair dropped from his New Labour approach. Till then I will probably ignore your waffle on this point  |
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Post by see2 on Jun 24, 2024 12:58:41 GMT
Or a liar. Which of course he is. Stop projecting your shit onto me. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 24, 2024 13:08:14 GMT
Two so called socialists who couldn't wait to be knighted, they are champagne socialists while pretending to relate to the poor less well off, they enjoy the trappings of wealth, they are the worst kind of socialists. I'd rather have a party who doesn't give a fuck about the poor, than have one that pretends. So you would sooner have a party that fucks up the NHS and State education, both of which are essential to the poorer in society. And you think Starmer and Blair do, they both ENJOY their trappings of wealth to send their children to private education and private health care, like they give a flying fuck about the 'poorer in society'... they only pretend to so the poor can keep them in luxury lifestyle they've become accustom to..... don't you know that? |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 24, 2024 13:41:40 GMT
Waffle ^ Hesaid “I would describe myself as a socialist.“ So you know what Socialism is ( or do you ?) that just leaves Starmer being ignorant of the meaning of Socialism. Come back when / if he reintroduces Clause 4, which Blair dropped from his New Labour approach. Till then I will probably ignore your waffle on this point He can introduce what he wants . He still said “I would describe myself as a socialist.“ And his fanboy is still trying to excuse it. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 24, 2024 20:38:39 GMT
So you would sooner have a party that fucks up the NHS and State education, both of which are essential to the poorer in society. And you think Starmer and Blair do, they both ENJOY their trappings of wealth to send their children to private education and private health care, like they give a flying fuck about the 'poorer in society'... they only pretend to so the poor can keep them in luxury lifestyle they've become accustom to..... don't you know that? Its just silly to imply that one has to be poor in order to care about the poor. Your final comment is beyond stupidity. Blair inherited two big black financial holes where the NHS and State education used to be. And repaired the mess he inherited. If you don't know that you are not in a position to criticise him. |
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