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Post by see2 on Jun 14, 2024 13:50:12 GMT
You know nothing but your distorted and totally biased approach politics. Complete nonsense. Thatcher enjoyed the full benefit of North sea Oil and Natural Gas income (before she sold them off) Plus the income from selling off Oil and Gas etc. Yet still left two huge economic black holes where the NHS and State Education used to be, along with extra thousands of people without a job. An unhealthy economy which was improved slightly but not repaired by John Major. Brown ended her use of controlling the economy with government Boom and Bust using inflation and deflation. Which led to a more stable economy. Labour's deregulation levels where continuously called for by the Tory Party and by Industry. There was a continuous whinge about too much 'red tape'. Even so, Labour did not cause the international financial meltdown which so damaged Western economies. The Banks were overflowing with money, they determined the level of lending and mortgages available. Aided and abetted by Mortgage companies including Banking, and Banks including Mortgages, all thanks to Changes made by Thatcher. The problem hit when the Banks found out the money and income they were enjoying turned out to be worthless, i.e. the meltdown. Your silly biased and distorted thinking wants to put all the blame on Labour, and that makes you a political knob-head. I would have thought somebody of your advancing years would have learnt to read by now. NOWHERE did I say Labour caused the financial crisis. NOWHERE did I "put all the blame on Labour". I said Labour CONTINUED the policies of the Tories, so anybody with a brain would deduce I am blaming both. So if I blame both sides where is the bias? You are talking shite, re-writing history, and I am calling out your lies because Starmer is using the same lies to pretend he is going to bring back the growth of New Labour. Only biased idiots like you believe him, the rest of us know that it is impossible because growth on the back of massive consumer debt is no longer possible because of tighter lending regulations. And I showed the shallowness of your thinking. But you are a fool with fixed opinions, determined to do your usual throwing shite at Labour. Grow up. Your post is just about you ignoring the points I made in my post. Choosing to post like a juvenile accusing me of lying when it is you lying to yourself. You fool no one other than yourself.
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Post by see2 on Jun 14, 2024 13:52:47 GMT
Ford do not manufacture engines at Bridgend and closed the plant some 5 years ago having failed to find a buyer for the site ,car building stopped in the early 2000s they have only made diesel engines at the old plant at Dagenham since Ford closed all their UK factories years ago. Even a dribbling old senile fart like c2 should know that. I never said they didn't but I know you are incapable of reading without dreaming of screwing your very own Ginger M, try keeping your mind on what you are actually reading and doing.
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 14, 2024 13:57:17 GMT
Ford do not manufacture engines at Bridgend and closed the plant some 5 years ago having failed to find a buyer for the site ,car building stopped in the early 2000s they have only made diesel engines at the old plant at Dagenham since Yes my first Googled reply was wrong Ford stopped building car engines in Bridgend although there is a comment claiming that the new Ecoboost engine was assembled at Bridgend. " car production in Dagenham stopped in 2002 (although it still makes lots of engines). And after topping the UK sales charts for 48 straight years, Ford finally lost its title in 2021.15 Mar 2024" -- I believe ford first produced an Ecoboost engine in in the UK in 2012. The plant's last Ford engine was the "Dragon" Ecoboost engine, produced from 2018 until February 2020. During its final months, it only made Jaguar AJ-V8 and AJ-V6 engines, themselves discontinued in September 2020. Fleet News www.fleetnews.co.uk › news › 2011/11/10 › uk-... 10 Nov 2011 — The Ford 1.0 liter Ecoboost engine will debut in Europe in early 2012 and ultimately be available worldwide. Developed and built in Basildon Essex. Irrelevant waffle from a proven ignoramus with no knowledge , experience or ability in the real world whilst pretending to be a pseudo psychologist All you post is your subjective opinion that Labour good , Tories bad repeated ad infinitum You used google and laughingly wiki without checking and tried quoting it as fact Yet again you were caught out posting untruths and yet again you try to use irrelevant waffle that you don't understand when you are in a hole you decided to dig yourself
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 14, 2024 14:00:33 GMT
well you should educate yourself in regard to the antics of pension fund managers who, denied the growth from dividend income by Brown’s antics denying your pension fund the Advance Corporation Tax, chose the singularly dodgy course of betting on low interest rates continuin If you read her book you’d know that If you worked in fintech you’d know that. But feel free to remain uneducated. Both parties at the head of the pack need that Yes, I don't believe that anyone is perfect in any job, but my assessment of Brown is that he was far more good than bad, and IMO far better than any previous Chancellor. I believe that if there had been no International Financial Meltdown New Labour would have received another four years in office in 2010. It's your personal opinion that Brown wasn't incompetent , not an assessment
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 14, 2024 14:04:29 GMT
Brown was a one eyed history teacher with an appalling temper He had no clue about economics , finance or even how to run a corner shop - and he was crowned as PM after a backroom deal with Blair There is an old saying that you should take note of, "when you know nowt, say nowt". Better than posting silly opinions ^^^ Posting to yourself again? I've yet to see any post from you that does not contain your silly opinion. Brown was a disaster , yet you are of the personal opinion that he walks on water Hilarious
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Post by see2 on Jun 14, 2024 14:07:00 GMT
Yes my first Googled reply was wrong Ford stopped building car engines in Bridgend although there is a comment claiming that the new Ecoboost engine was assembled at Bridgend. " car production in Dagenham stopped in 2002 (although it still makes lots of engines). And after topping the UK sales charts for 48 straight years, Ford finally lost its title in 2021.15 Mar 2024" -- I believe ford first produced an Ecoboost engine in in the UK in 2012. The plant's last Ford engine was the "Dragon" Ecoboost engine, produced from 2018 until February 2020. During its final months, it only made Jaguar AJ-V8 and AJ-V6 engines, themselves discontinued in September 2020. Fleet News www.fleetnews.co.uk › news › 2011/11/10 › uk-... 10 Nov 2011 — The Ford 1.0 liter Ecoboost engine will debut in Europe in early 2012 and ultimately be available worldwide. Developed and built in Basildon Essex. Irrelevant waffle from a proven ignoramus with no knowledge , experience or ability in the real world whilst pretending to be a pseudo psychologist All you post is your subjective opinion that Labour good , Tories bad repeated ad infinitum You used google and laughingly wiki without checking and tried quoting it as fact Yet again you were caught out posting untruths and yet again you try to use irrelevant waffle that you don't understand when you are in a hole you decided to dig yourself Misled information is not an untruth, it is what it is. Comments posted in quotation marks means they are comments made by others. That has previously pointed out to you. Why you insist on exposing just how stupid and arrogant you can be is quite hilarious. And only to be expected from a less than a full shilling Righty LOL
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Post by witchfinder on Jun 14, 2024 14:09:10 GMT
At the time of the Banking Crisis, some of the largest financial institutions in the world were British based, including HSBC, RBS and others.
All major UK financial institutions have a footprint in other countries, and are therefore susceptible to the finincial climate of those countries, which is precisely how so many countries were affected by the Banking Crisis which mostly had its roots in the United States, this was refered to as "Contagion".
Claiming that the Banking crisis was the fault of Gordon Brown is ridiculous, Gordon Brown cannot regulate the financial sector in the United States, and as he himself declared many times "financial regulation can only be effective if done by international agreement".
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 14, 2024 14:10:58 GMT
Ford closed all their UK factories years ago. Even a dribbling old senile fart like c2 should know that. I never said they didn't but I know you are incapable of reading without dreaming of screwing your very own Ginger M, try keeping your mind on what you are actually reading and doing. I never said they didn'tOh yes you did !! I have no confidence in your latest clearly biased political ramblings.
-- "Facing a drop in demand and intense competition, Ford stopped building cars in the UK in 2002. It has continued to manufacture engines in Bridgend and Dagenham, as well as transmissions in Halewood."
Liar , liar , pants on fire
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Post by see2 on Jun 14, 2024 14:12:50 GMT
Yes, I don't believe that anyone is perfect in any job, but my assessment of Brown is that he was far more good than bad, and IMO far better than any previous Chancellor. I believe that if there had been no International Financial Meltdown New Labour would have received another four years in office in 2010. It's your personal opinion that Brown wasn't incompetent , not an assessment I know without any doubt that have not studied anything about Brown, you prove that with just about every comment you make. You come over as a product of the most failed government in the UK propaganda, 70% of the last 70 odd years of parliament dominated by the pathetic Tory party, no wonder the country's in a mess. Yet fools like yourself back them?
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 14, 2024 14:14:06 GMT
Irrelevant waffle from a proven ignoramus with no knowledge , experience or ability in the real world whilst pretending to be a pseudo psychologist All you post is your subjective opinion that Labour good , Tories bad repeated ad infinitum You used google and laughingly wiki without checking and tried quoting it as fact Yet again you were caught out posting untruths and yet again you try to use irrelevant waffle that you don't understand when you are in a hole you decided to dig yourself Misled information is not an untruth, it is what it is. Comments posted in quotation marks means they are comments made by others. That has previously pointed out to you. Why you insist on exposing just how stupid and arrogant you can be is quite hilarious. And only to be expected from a less than a full shilling Righty LOL You weren't misled - you smugly posted untruths without checking (aka blatant lies ) claiming them to be facts deliberately trying to rubbish another posters factual post. You were caught out - yet again
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 14, 2024 14:15:32 GMT
It's your personal opinion that Brown wasn't incompetent , not an assessment I know without any doubt that have not studied anything about Brown, you prove that with just about every comment you make. You come over as a product of the most failed government in the UK propaganda, 70% of the last 70 odd years of parliament dominated by the pathetic Tory party, no wonder the country's in a mess. Yet fools like yourself back them? Translation? Anyone?
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Post by see2 on Jun 14, 2024 14:17:30 GMT
I never said they didn't but I know you are incapable of reading without dreaming of screwing your very own Ginger M, try keeping your mind on what you are actually reading and doing. I never said they didn'tOh yes you did !! I have no confidence in your latest clearly biased political ramblings.
-- "Facing a drop in demand and intense competition, Ford stopped building cars in the UK in 2002. It has continued to manufacture engines in Bridgend and Dagenham, as well as transmissions in Halewood."
Liar , liar , pants on fire My comment was in quotation marks, do you actually know what that means, because it would appear that you are ignorant of what it means. Well I don't lie but you do post stupid.
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Post by see2 on Jun 14, 2024 14:20:51 GMT
Misled information is not an untruth, it is what it is. Comments posted in quotation marks means they are comments made by others. That has previously pointed out to you. Why you insist on exposing just how stupid and arrogant you can be is quite hilarious. And only to be expected from a less than a full shilling Righty LOL You weren't misled - you smugly posted untruths without checking (aka blatant lies ) claiming them to be facts deliberately trying to rubbish another posters factual post. You were caught out - yet again I will not put up with your lying idiotic stupidity. It just isn't possible to take you seriously. Try growing up at least a bit before any further posts to me.
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 14, 2024 14:42:12 GMT
You weren't misled - you smugly posted untruths without checking (aka blatant lies ) claiming them to be facts deliberately trying to rubbish another posters factual post. You were caught out - yet again I will not put up with your lying idiotic stupidity. It just isn't possible to take you seriously. Try growing up at least a bit before any further posts to me. The irony
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 14, 2024 15:42:41 GMT
I would have thought somebody of your advancing years would have learnt to read by now. NOWHERE did I say Labour caused the financial crisis. NOWHERE did I "put all the blame on Labour". I said Labour CONTINUED the policies of the Tories, so anybody with a brain would deduce I am blaming both. So if I blame both sides where is the bias? You are talking shite, re-writing history, and I am calling out your lies because Starmer is using the same lies to pretend he is going to bring back the growth of New Labour. Only biased idiots like you believe him, the rest of us know that it is impossible because growth on the back of massive consumer debt is no longer possible because of tighter lending regulations. And I showed the shallowness of your thinking. But you are a fool with fixed opinions, determined to do your usual throwing shite at Labour. Grow up. Your post is just about you ignoring the points I made in my post. Choosing to post like a juvenile accusing me of lying when it is you lying to yourself. You fool no one other than yourself. The irony.
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