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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 11, 2024 9:04:43 GMT
So, just to clarify, are you saying that state retirement pension and Guarantee Credit are the same thing? They're not. SRP is not means tested, but is calculated on your NI records. PCGC is a means tested benefit that pensioners who fall below a threshold tops up, and also passports onto housing benefit, council tax support etc, where SRP doesn't. Just curious, but are you saying that a person of pension age (whatever that is now) who has no contributions record and thus no entitlement to the state pension can qualify for pension credit instead? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 11, 2024 9:19:17 GMT
So, just to clarify, are you saying that state retirement pension and Guarantee Credit are the same thing? They're not. SRP is not means tested, but is calculated on your NI records. PCGC is a means tested benefit that pensioners who fall below a threshold tops up, and also passports onto housing benefit, council tax support etc, where SRP doesn't. Just curious, but are you saying that a person of pension age (whatever that is now) who has no contributions record and thus no entitlement to the state pension can qualify for pension credit instead? Yes, guarantee credit is based on income. www.gov.uk/pension-credit |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 11, 2024 9:25:55 GMT
Just curious, but are you saying that a person of pension age (whatever that is now) who has no contributions record and thus no entitlement to the state pension can qualify for pension credit instead? Yes, guarantee credit is based on income. www.gov.uk/pension-creditDoes that mean that the elderly parents of an earlier immigrant from, say, India, who have been granted settlement in the UK will be eligible for pension credit of up to £333 pw plus, potentially, other benefits such as housing credit? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 11, 2024 9:31:08 GMT
If they have right to remain, then for benefits purposes they get treated as eligible.
People from abroad is a somewhat complicated module, made even more complicated by our EU withdrawal.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 11, 2024 9:38:12 GMT
If they have right to remain, then for benefits purposes they get treated as eligible.
People from abroad is a somewhat complicated module, made even more complicated by our EU withdrawal. I'm sure very few people outside the immigrant community and of course the public servants who distribute this largesse will be aware of that. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 11, 2024 9:58:00 GMT
If they have right to remain, then for benefits purposes they get treated as eligible.
People from abroad is a somewhat complicated module, made even more complicated by our EU withdrawal. I'm sure very few people outside the immigrant community and of course the public servants who distribute this largesse will be aware of that. I’m not sure that’s a fair way to look at it Andrew stated above that the entitlement is conditional upon having THE RIGHT TO REMAIN Those who have no such right are identified as having no access to public funds I can only speak for myself but i don’t have an issue with an immigrant who HAS the right to remain having access to these funds any more than a person on a low pension entitlement and no other income having them My issue is far more fundamental My issue is that far too many freeloaders are allowed to invade these shores and get that right to remain, and far too many who should be chucked out having been allowed in for a period for whatever reason (making use of our superior education facilities to acquire skills that would improve standards in their own country for example) are allowed, and are indeed encouraged to expect that having abused us by denying one of our own that training place then get to further abuse us by stealing that job. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 11, 2024 10:08:42 GMT
Do you think it's fair that immigrants can import elderly parents who then get extensive (I won't say 'complete') access to the benefits system?
I recall when I lived in California there was a giant scandal when it emerged that Chinese residents in San Francisco were operating a scheme in which elderly people - ostensibly parents - were being admitted and registered as dependents. Over time they became entitled to a whole range of benefits, including sheltered housing if their sponsors petitioned that they unable to care for them at home.
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Post by Totheleft on Jun 11, 2024 10:16:32 GMT
Ok so what changes would you wish made to benefits. I think the biggest cost is pensions. Does that get cut too? yes defiantly or means tested |
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Post by dappy on Jun 11, 2024 10:17:52 GMT
Does every thread on this forum end up on “them immigrants are doing us down”?
On what visa are the elderly Indian parents being brought in under?
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 11, 2024 10:21:58 GMT
Does every thread on this forum end up on “them immigrants are doing us down”? On what visa are the elderly Indian parents being brought in under? Whatever the problem, there's always a helpful and friendly lawyer just a phone call away.
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Post by dappy on Jun 11, 2024 10:42:48 GMT
Did you read your link Dan?
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Post by Vinny on Jun 11, 2024 10:44:53 GMT
If they have right to remain, then for benefits purposes they get treated as eligible. People from abroad is a somewhat complicated module, made even more complicated by our EU withdrawal. You missed out the word necessary between EU and withdrawal. The country voted leave, we had to, that's how democracy works. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 11, 2024 11:19:06 GMT
If they have right to remain, then for benefits purposes they get treated as eligible. People from abroad is a somewhat complicated module, made even more complicated by our EU withdrawal. You missed out the word necessary between EU and withdrawal. The country voted leave, we had to, that's how democracy works. I wasn't commenting here on whether it was good or bad, that's for other threads, I'm merely saying that it made the "people from abroad" module of benefits more complicated. Yes, that's what the country voted for, but wasn't my point. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 11, 2024 11:30:54 GMT
Did you read your link Dan? Not every word, but I got the gist of it. Two things particularly caught the eye, this:
"If these options do not suit your specific case or situation, we can also advise you with other solutions that may work for you and your loved ones. For more info, please contact us."
and the fact that all supporting documentation is to be sourced in the country of origin. As is well known, the manufacture of 'legends' ie new identities for migrants is a boom industry in India particularly. The provision of identity documents, medical reports and financial statements is bread and butter to these guys.
Of course in the bad old days pre-Blair it was routine to require DNA tests for purported relatives from India, but that was abolished as being 'discriminatory'.
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Post by dappy on Jun 11, 2024 11:51:49 GMT
You seem to be diverting away from your claim Dan
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