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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 5, 2024 9:14:58 GMT
States the biggest fucktard of the web....
And no I wouldn't expect anything less from a dumfuck.
Look, I know simple concept are troublesome for you. But the facts are simple. Nigel Farage has NEVER been elected after seven attempts to do so. Thus, anyone who has been elected at any time in the past is "more popular" a politician than Farage. No, that won’t work and you know exactly why Popularity with the people is no measure of electability. If the houses of parliament were elected on true pr with a party list system would he still be unelected ? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 5, 2024 9:18:39 GMT
Nigel Farage has NEVER been elected after seven attempts to do so... Apart from in PR elections where he proved immensely popular and was elected 5 times. But then we know that the truth is a stranger to you, NullaVeritas.  |
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Post by see2 on Jun 5, 2024 9:30:24 GMT
No one is disputing the fact that the Reform Party IS far-right. And being a sensible individual I have a sensible opinion on extreme political positions. They are on the outer extremes of politics because they are extremists. To be conned by political extremists IS FOOLISH. I'd ask you to define far right, but no one who says Reform are can define what a woman is so what's the point. The far right and the far left take their political preference to more extreme positions than the more normal levels of politics. Have yo checked out the Male and female versions of 46,XY ? |
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Post by see2 on Jun 5, 2024 9:38:07 GMT
Look, I know simple concept are troublesome for you. But the facts are simple. Nigel Farage has NEVER been elected after seven attempts to do so. Thus, anyone who has been elected at any time in the past is "more popular" a politician than Farage. Do you imagine that question would find 82% of respondents replying in the affirmative (that means "people answering Yes") if it had been carried out in any other news website? All The Best Farage won 2 elections based on the popular vote - PR being more representative of what the people think than FPTP Single policy elections are the very source of stupidity in that misleading information tends to win the day. They are open to the extreme mindless morons need to spread dishonest propaganda. |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 5, 2024 9:43:32 GMT
I'd ask you to define far right, but no one who says Reform are can define what a woman is so what's the point. The far right and the far left take their political preference to more extreme positions than the more normal levels of politics. Have yo checked out the Male and female versions of 46,XY ? That will not work as the 'more normal level of politics' ranges from Thatcher and Keith Joseph to Tony Benn and Jeremy Corbyn and all of those had high levels of support from the public so much have been 'more normal'. Even Enoch Powell had very high levels of public support so he was decidedly 'more normal'. You still need to define what far right is by being clear which policies are not 'more normal'. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 5, 2024 10:11:11 GMT
But you do understand the theory that a right leaning newspaper is going to produce a right leaning result and this is not representative of the real world? 🤔 Where did I state otherwise. I find your attitude hypocritical when you post polls from left wing sources and have us all believe they are a true representation of the electorate views or intentions. And you lefties cannot even define a woman let alone distinguish between left and right...FFS any source that tells it as it is is instantly labelled hard right by the usuals. I don’t think I have used media polls, they don't actually mean much. Only polling data I use is from polling companies. And I know exactly what a woman is, it's the one who does the cooking and cleaning. You just made that up. Because that's all you've got. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 5, 2024 10:21:49 GMT
Other choices are available. Other choices are available to being an MP, no one slags them off just for their choice of job; and they have done immeasurably more harm to the economic and social fabric of our country than OnlyFans workers ever will. Other choices are available to being a Banker, no one slags them off just for their choice of job; and they have done immeasurably more harm to the economic and social fabric of our country than OnlyFans workers ever will. All The Best Society needs Politicians and Bankers . Only wankers need Only fans . I’m sure they appreciate your support. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 5, 2024 10:22:23 GMT
So, to summarise the thread then: Violence is deplorable. Unless it's a lefty doing it to a righty, in which case it's a jolly jape. I shall bear that in mind next time a lefty gets a shoeing. Has anyone actually said the "violence" was OK? I have re-skimmed the thread and can't see anyone saying so. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 5, 2024 10:23:34 GMT
Look, I know simple concept are troublesome for you. But the facts are simple. Nigel Farage has NEVER been elected after seven attempts to do so. Thus, anyone who has been elected at any time in the past is "more popular" a politician than Farage. No, that won’t work and you know exactly why Popularity with the people is no measure of electability. If the houses of parliament were elected on true pr with a party list system would he still be unelected ? Well I have long been an advocate of PR - as I think you are probably aware from our debates at the "other place". Almost any system you can think of would be better than FPTP. You are correct, I think it highly likely that in a PR voting system Farage would have been an MP by now, and UKIP / Brexit Party / Reform UK would have other MPs as well. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 5, 2024 10:26:42 GMT
Nigel Farage has NEVER been elected after seven attempts to do so... Apart from in PR elections where he proved immensely popular and was elected 5 times. But then we know that the truth is a stranger to you, NullaVeritas. Do we use PR to elect MPs to Westminster? No, we don't. So while I could have been more precise in my wording I had assumed a modicum of intelligence on behalf of my fellow interlocutors. Also, anyone sufficiently informed would have known that the Seven Failures were solely relating to becoming a Westminster MP. I'll endeavour, in future, to remember you lack that modicum of intelligence, and try and rephrase my posts in a Peter & Jane style, just for you. All The Best |
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 5, 2024 10:29:44 GMT
I dispute that Reform is far right as it is not clear exactly what far right is. An extremist is one who is on the extremes of any group, if reform are on 15% support within the electorate they are hardly extreme. Well some TV reporters apparently know because they refer to Reform as far right. IIRC some of the organisers of Reform have a history of being far-right. Unnecessary explanation is nothing more than a hiding place. Thatcher had a high level of support it didn't stop her from earning the title of being a "stocking footed fascist". Love your source of your standard lefty idiocy An on-line GCE sociology school primer  earlhamsociologypages.uk/introducing-fascism/ |
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 5, 2024 10:33:57 GMT
No one is disputing the fact that the Reform Party IS far-right. And being a sensible individual I have a sensible opinion on extreme political positions. They are on the outer extremes of politics because they are extremists. To be conned by political extremists IS FOOLISH. You're putting your left wing credentials on display again. Like many deluded lefties you scream 'far right' at anything or anyone who doesn't share your narrow vision of the future. People like you remind of those brainwashed morons who held book burnings and daubed graffiti over shops in 1930's Germany. Are you a book burner see2? What the standard lefty can't (or won't) understand is that far left and far right are virtually identical ideologies |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 5, 2024 10:40:32 GMT
Where did I state otherwise. I find your attitude hypocritical when you post polls from left wing sources and have us all believe they are a true representation of the electorate views or intentions. And you lefties cannot even define a woman let alone distinguish between left and right...FFS any source that tells it as it is is instantly labelled hard right by the usuals. I don’t think I have used media polls, they don't actually mean much. Only polling data I use is from polling companies. And I know exactly what a woman is, it's the one who does the cooking and cleaning. You just made that up. Because that's all you've got. Yes leftie polling companies...Most people who want to be polled have to tick all the boxes and if they don't they will not even be considered to take part. At least the poll in the DM was open to all and sundry. I haven't made anything up. Is it my fault you support the side who's fucking leader cannot define a woman? |
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 5, 2024 10:40:48 GMT
No. she was a fat fuck. Hey it's for her own good. Oh yeah...  she's fat alright... ...NOT! Maybe get your eyes tested. All The Best You never heard of airbrushing and photoshop? She' got caterpillars crawling over her eyes for some reason and looks like a to do list written on her leg and wrist |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2024 10:41:47 GMT
Fat shaming eh? I thought she was quite nice looking.I don't approve of throwing banana milkshake though. Thunder thighs, rubber duck lips, and plastic tits and an acre of arse. So what bit exactly do you think is good looking? Still the setting of the pic is perfect. Right next to the trash can...
It does seem her motive of prostituting herself via the Internet has been very successful. Someone few people had heard of is now plastered all over the place. Strumpet is the word. She even diverted this thread about Farage to be all about her.  |
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