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Post by witchfinder on Jun 5, 2024 14:55:08 GMT
Well bearing in mind that leadership candidates MUST be nominated by Labour MPs
And bearing in mind that after the general election, something like 90% of Labour MPs will not be of the far Left or "militant" Left, how do you think that Angela Rayner or someone similar could become leader. ?
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Post by jonksy on Jun 5, 2024 15:11:48 GMT
Well bearing in mind that leadership candidates MUST be nominated by Labour MPs And bearing in mind that after the general election, something like 90% of Labour MPs will not be of the far Left or "militant" Left, how do you think that Angela Rayner or someone similar could become leader. ? Who could even contemplate a two bit hooker being a deputy leader fiddles? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2024 15:16:50 GMT
Now is definitely the time to have a strong nuclear deterrent. Starmer will have to sack her if he gets near to being PM or the left of the party will sack him. The left of the party are a busted flush. Most of us left a long time ago now. No more than a couple of dozen MPs at the most are genuinely on the left. Most of the left wing half of the membership has resigned from the party. The left mostly realises that Labour has been stolen from them permanently, and now operates outside the party with minimal effect whilst the masses will vote for anyone to get the Tories out. The left's best hope of a hung parliament creating the circumstances where electoral reform is on the table looks unlikely now. Their next best hope is for disillusionment for Labour in office as it becomes ever more obvious that it is just another Tory party, boosting support for smaller more left leaning political forces like the Greens. And that in the election after this one the circumstances will be more propitious for a hung parliament. Yes, clearly, we on the left are hanging our hopes on slender threads indeed, but many of the causes we champion are felt desperately needed by many millions - more social housing, better tenants rights, and so on - and in the long run support for us will rise if the mainstream parties fail to address such concerns. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2024 15:19:32 GMT
There is as much chance now of a Leftwinger such as Angela Rayner becoming leader of the Labour Party, as there is of the Pope becoming chairman of the Gay Liberation Movement. Apart from anything else, Keir Starmer is not Prime Minister yet, and already people are talking about a leadership challenge, its all just nonsensical. Sir dithering arsehole is just a place holder for corybynites FFS fiddles... Not very bright, are you? There are very few Corbynites left in the party. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 5, 2024 15:21:59 GMT
Sir dithering arsehole is just a place holder for corybynites FFS fiddles... Not very bright, are you? There are very few Corbynites left in the party. And you have been correct over anything was, when exactly? |
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Post by see2 on Jun 5, 2024 15:23:27 GMT
Because it is. Do you think that John Prescott agreed with everything Tony Blair believed in. Or that every leader and deputy in the Tory party agreed on everything together. You need to wake up to reality which is that political parties are a broad church and that Labour is set to keep the Nuclear deterrent. Can't blame you for trying to make more of it than it is. Voting Tory since 1951 is why the country falls short of making it. Kindly detail even one incidence of Blair as PM and leader of he labour party stating that labour policy will do X and old two Jags stating publicly on the record ''As deputy leader of the Labour party I believe that labour should do Y as policy'' I asked for thoughts, so do your own research. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2024 15:26:42 GMT
Not very bright, are you? There are very few Corbynites left in the party. And you have been correct over anything was, when exactly? Massive irony alert on that one. No one on this forum - and there is immense competition for the title - is a bigger spouter of absolute bollocks than you are. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 5, 2024 15:29:08 GMT
Because it is. Do you think that John Prescott agreed with everything Tony Blair believed in. Or that every leader and deputy in the Tory party agreed on everything together. You need to wake up to reality which is that political parties are a broad church and that Labour is set to keep the Nuclear deterrent. Can't blame you for trying to make more of it than it is. Whoa there, we are talking about Starmer who is likely to be our next prime minister, and his deputy prime minister, who publicly disagree on Labour policy, just before a general election. And all you have to say is... move along folks nothing to see here. Jeez, how deeply is that socialist butt plug inserted. Oh please, for Christs sake, that was a rhetorical question. Who publicly disagrees with one point of Labour policy. I would think the cabinet would have to change any change of policy. If your anti-Labour sickness is so important to you, then find the back-up that makes your point so important. I have far too much on my plate already. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2024 15:32:57 GMT
Well bearing in mind that leadership candidates MUST be nominated by Labour MPs And bearing in mind that after the general election, something like 90% of Labour MPs will not be of the far Left or "militant" Left, how do you think that Angela Rayner or someone similar could become leader. ? Don't confuse the poor dears with such an analysis. Their heads will explode. There are no far left or militant left MPs by the way, just a few genuinely left ones. But I know what you mean. However we describe them, they simply don't have the numbers. And in the wider party membership there has been a mass exodus of the left so the left lacks the numbers there too. Most of us, who once put our hopes in the Labour party, have given up on Labour for good. Those trying to put out the idea of a left wing takeover once Labour gets in are almost wholly talking out of their arses. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2024 15:37:02 GMT
Not very bright, are you? There are very few Corbynites left in the party. And you have been correct over anything was, when exactly? Other far-lefties are claiming they're going to boot Starmer out and take over the party after the election, and the evidence is pointing in that direction where Raynor, Abbott and others from the Corbyn cult are openly dissing and undermining Starmer from solid positions within the party.
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 5, 2024 15:58:52 GMT
Kindly detail even one incidence of Blair as PM and leader of he labour party stating that labour policy will do X and old two Jags stating publicly on the record ''As deputy leader of the Labour party I believe that labour should do Y as policy'' I asked for thoughts, so do your own research.
He never went on the record as deputy leader disagreeing with Blair Unlike Rayner , the ginger growler deputy leader Therefore your post was irrelevant lefty prattle , as per your usual standard |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2024 16:01:48 GMT
And you have been correct over anything was, when exactly? Other far-lefties are claiming they're going to boot Starmer out and take over the party after the election, and the evidence is pointing in that direction where Raynor, Abbott and others from the Corbyn cult are openly dissing and undermining Starmer from solid positions within the party.
Do you gain such insights by shoving your head up an elephants arse and looking around? The left simply don't have the numbers. Intelligent people know this. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 5, 2024 16:15:02 GMT
I know it's going to happen because it was in a reader's poll in the Daily Mail...🙃🤣
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Post by jonksy on Jun 5, 2024 16:18:10 GMT
Other far-lefties are claiming they're going to boot Starmer out and take over the party after the election, and the evidence is pointing in that direction where Raynor, Abbott and others from the Corbyn cult are openly dissing and undermining Starmer from solid positions within the party.
Do you gain such insights by shoving your head up an elephants arse and looking around? The left simply don't have the numbers. Intelligent people know this. It doesn't take a lot of intelegence to see both the ginger growler and abacus defying and going against starmer...But then lefty trolls are renowned for being as dumb as pig shit... |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 5, 2024 16:19:02 GMT
I know it's going to happen because it was in a reader's poll in the Daily Mail...🙃🤣 Better than any poll you have ever posted andrea. |
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