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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 2, 2024 13:04:03 GMT
The Post Office enquiry is very long and complicated, but the issue was very simple to understand, namely the post office computer was faulty and likely to have led to many false convictions. The post office had a common law duty of care.
Now it is kind of assumed in Britain in the popular view that there was criminality involved. Criminality involves something that was premeditated and consciously decided upon, not an action that was accidental. I've watched a number of these cross examinations from a number of those involved and as for the ones below her, they defended themselves as nothing to do with me guv, just following orders from above.
So this leaves us to investigate what was going on right at the top. Right at the top was her and she was advised by her head lawyer Susan Crichton. In the various cross examinations we get to read transcripts of board meetings and copies of emails which were communicated at the time, so we get a picture of it was as it happened, including some recorded conversations in the post office internal system that the speakers were unaware of at the time. So we have some good sources and don't have to rely on her interpretations of her own actions and her recall. In looking at this documentation is seems to me that rather than deliberate dishonesty, she was suffering some sort of mental overload where her mind was outputting pure gibberish. This woman should never have been given such a responsible job. It seems like how I find female brains. They work so good for things they do regularly, but if they are overloaded they do an M$ kind of blue screen hex dump. Do you agree?
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Post by piglet on Jun 3, 2024 8:50:01 GMT
Yes. There have been many times when it dawns on you that fellow colleagues are totally incompetent, and rather than helping, are in fact an added stress and impair the ability to get owt done. I worked in the NHS, which is full of such, in fact hard workers who get things done well and very few.
When they realise you think they are as sholes, things become even worse, and management protects them because they cant do anything else. One case i remember was that a bloke at my level, charge nurse, who knew practically nothing about anything and constantly needed supervision. Even then he learnt nowt. My stress went through the roof.
It is so in nationalised industries, im sure its the case on the railways, i know that drivers take huge number of sick days, stranding passengers, etc, unions strikes. Vennels is one of those, vacuous, stupid, manipulative, a liar, not caring.
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ginnyg2
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Post by ginnyg2 on Jun 3, 2024 9:15:35 GMT
They are all cretins. Not a single one of them thought "hang on a minute, why are hundreds of sub-postmasters suddenly all on the fiddle?" The odd one or two maybe but hundreds? Come on!
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 3, 2024 9:26:49 GMT
Yes. There have been many times when it dawns on you that fellow colleagues are totally incompetent, and rather than helping, are in fact an added stress and impair the ability to get owt done. I worked in the NHS, which is full of such, in fact hard workers who get things done well and very few. When they realise you think they are as sholes, things become even worse, and management protects them because they cant do anything else. One case i remember was that a bloke at my level, charge nurse, who knew practically nothing about anything and constantly needed supervision. Even then he learnt nowt. My stress went through the roof. It is so in nationalised industries, im sure its the case on the railways, i know that drivers take huge number of sick days, stranding passengers, etc, unions strikes. Vennels is one of those, vacuous, stupid, manipulative, a liar, not caring. Yes I see what you are saying there and this is what I've been thinking as well. They are all involved in the detail of the process with each brain making small incremental advances and no one who wants to put all the facts together and use that to make a bold leap in a different direction. I mean what she should have done as manager is to decide that Fujitsu were incompetent, had breached their contract of supply to the post office and that they should be thrown off the contract and the job should have gone to a competent firm. They should have used those lawyers to sue Fujitsu in the High Court and get their money back and compensation to cover the post offices losses.
In fact really this should have happened much earlier than she was even appointed, but like you say, we are faced with one management team being much the same as all the others. The collaborative thinking seems to enable managers to only need to do a small fraction of the thinking that proper managers do and so this leads to a job that is easy and can be done by any old fool, but what you have in charge then is pretty much the process running autonomously. Each action made is governed by what the process says. This is what we call working to cover their arses. Anyway if we look at realty successful organisations, as per ones that have grown huge, rich, highly profitable and productive, we often find it is run by one person at the top and that person is extremely smart. The smart person at the top then appoints and knows who is smart as their deputies, and so the chain is constructed. If the top person is a vegetable it will be vegetables all the way down. |
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