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Post by Red Rackham on May 29, 2024 14:50:14 GMT
I notice there seems to be a lot of fuss in the news media of late surrounding so called zombie knives. Below on the left is a zombie knife, on the right is a kitchen knife which is on sale in any hardware store or supermarket. Is anyone of the opinion that the zombie knife is somehow more dangerous than the kitchen knife? Sadiq Khan says the reason knife crime is so high in Londonistan is because this nasty Tory government have not banned zombie knives. He seems to be of the opinion that if young thugs could not buy zombie knives, then the knife crime epidemic he encouraged by effectively banning stop and search would suddenly disappear. I tend to think he is wrong. Banning knives will not stop thugs stabbing people. Gun crime is rife, but guns are banned. What will deter young thugs from carrying knives is massively increasing stop and search and proper deterrents and punishments. That means a mandatory six months in prison for a first offence.
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Post by Totheleft on May 29, 2024 15:03:02 GMT
I agree but the thing is you can't legally buy knifes unless your 25yr old so where are they getting this lethal killing items from .
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Post by jonksy on May 29, 2024 15:18:26 GMT
I agree but the thing is you can't legally buy knifes unless your 25yr old so where are they getting this lethal killing items from . A fucking srewdriver is a lethal weapon in the wrong hands...Doofus.
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Post by Totheleft on May 29, 2024 15:22:08 GMT
I agree but the thing is you can't legally buy knifes unless your 25yr old so where are they getting this lethal killing items from . A fucking srewdriver is a lethal weapon in the wrong hands...Doofus. This thread is about Zombie knifes knob head .
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Post by jonksy on May 29, 2024 15:24:25 GMT
A fucking srewdriver is a lethal weapon in the wrong hands...Doofus. This thread is about Zombie knifes knob head . Then you never read the op doofus...
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Post by Red Rackham on May 29, 2024 15:28:07 GMT
I agree but the thing is you can't legally buy knifes unless your 25yr old so where are they getting this lethal killing items from . You seem to be missing the point, for example; guns are banned, yet gun crime is at record levels. Drugs are banned, yet drug taking is at record levels. The point being 'banning' things does not stop the problem. In criticising the government for not banning zombie knives Khan is grabbing at straws, lets not forget since he banned the police from using stop and search knife crime has gone stratospheric in London. The only way to deter young thugs from carrying knives is harsh deterrents, and a massive increase in stop and search. In areas that are plagued by knife crime/street crime the police should set up pedestrian and vehicle check points and if black thugs riot the TSG should stamp on them. A zero tollerance approach would have an immediate effect, unlike banning zombie knives which is window dressing, it will have absolutely no effect.
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Post by Totheleft on May 29, 2024 15:29:31 GMT
This thread is about Zombie knifes knob head . Then you never read the op doofus... Not screwdrivers then knob head
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Post by Totheleft on May 29, 2024 15:30:51 GMT
I agree but the thing is you can't legally buy knifes unless your 25yr old so where are they getting this lethal killing items from . You seem to be missing the point, for example; guns are banned, yet gun crime is at record levels. Drugs are banned, yet drug taking is at record levels. The point being 'banning' things does not stop the problem. In criticising the government for not banning zombie knives Khan is grabbing at straws, lets not forget since he banned the police from using stop and search knife crime has gone stratospheric in London. The only way to deter young thugs from carrying knives is harsh deterrents, and a massive increase in stop and search. In areas that are plagued by knife crime/street crime the police should set up pedestrian and vehicle check points and if black thugs riot the TSG should stamp on them. A zero tollerance approach would have an immediate effect, unlike banning zombie knives which is window dressing, it will have absolutely no effect. I did agree with you red
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Post by jonksy on May 29, 2024 15:31:55 GMT
Then you never read the op doofus... Not screwdrivers then knob head There's that whistle again doofus..
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Post by patman post on May 29, 2024 15:32:08 GMT
I agree but the thing is you can't legally buy knifes unless your 25yr old so where are they getting this lethal killing items from . You seem to be missing the point, for example; guns are banned, yet gun crime is at record levels. Drugs are banned, yet drug taking is at record levels. The point being 'banning' things does not stop the problem. In criticising the government for not banning zombie knives Khan is grabbing at straws, lets not forget since he banned the police from using stop and search knife crime has gone stratospheric in London. The only way to deter young thugs from carrying knives is harsh deterrents, and a massive increase in stop and search. In areas that are plagued by knife crime/street crime the police should set up pedestrian and vehicle check points and if black thugs riot the TSG should stamp on them. A zero tollerance approach would have an immediate effect, unlike banning zombie knives which is window dressing, it will have absolutely no effect. Firearms crime is currently lower than the long term trend and remains suppressed… nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/nsa-firearms
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Post by Totheleft on May 29, 2024 15:34:17 GMT
Not screwdrivers then knob head There's that whistle again doofus.. OK knob head
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Post by jonksy on May 29, 2024 15:38:00 GMT
You seem to be missing the point, for example; guns are banned, yet gun crime is at record levels. Drugs are banned, yet drug taking is at record levels. The point being 'banning' things does not stop the problem. In criticising the government for not banning zombie knives Khan is grabbing at straws, lets not forget since he banned the police from using stop and search knife crime has gone stratospheric in London. The only way to deter young thugs from carrying knives is harsh deterrents, and a massive increase in stop and search. In areas that are plagued by knife crime/street crime the police should set up pedestrian and vehicle check points and if black thugs riot the TSG should stamp on them. A zero tollerance approach would have an immediate effect, unlike banning zombie knives which is window dressing, it will have absolutely no effect. Firearms crime is currently lower than the long term trend and remains suppressed… nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/nsa-firearmsIllegal guns are mostly surpressed.... There were 1,085 firearm offences recorded in London 2022/23, compared with 1,071 in 2021/22, which was the year with the fewest firearm offences in the provided time period. Compared with previous years there were far fewer offences in 2020/21 and 2021/22, which may have been due to the lockdowns brought about by the COVID-19 pandemic. This is also reflected in London's overall crime rate, which fell from 102.4 crimes per 1,000 people in 2019/20, to 83.3 in 2020/21, before increasing to 92.8 in 2021/22, and 100.9 in the most recent reporting year. A great many more go unreported...
Number of firearm offences (excluding air weapons) in London from 2015/16 to 2022/23
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Post by Red Rackham on May 29, 2024 15:42:00 GMT
You seem to be missing the point, for example; guns are banned, yet gun crime is at record levels. Drugs are banned, yet drug taking is at record levels. The point being 'banning' things does not stop the problem. In criticising the government for not banning zombie knives Khan is grabbing at straws, lets not forget since he banned the police from using stop and search knife crime has gone stratospheric in London. The only way to deter young thugs from carrying knives is harsh deterrents, and a massive increase in stop and search. In areas that are plagued by knife crime/street crime the police should set up pedestrian and vehicle check points and if black thugs riot the TSG should stamp on them. A zero tollerance approach would have an immediate effect, unlike banning zombie knives which is window dressing, it will have absolutely no effect. Firearms crime is currently lower than the long term trend and remains suppressed… nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/nsa-firearmsPat, in 1998 due to an alarming rise of gun crime in the black community in London, the Met were forced to set up Operation Trident to tackle this growing problem. In later years Op Trident was extended to Birmingham and Manchester. In spite of the fact that guns are banned, gun crime is a problem. The point being, banning zombie knives or any knives for that matter, will not stop knife crime.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 29, 2024 15:48:44 GMT
Illegal guns are mostly surpressed.... There were 1,085 firearm offences recorded in London 2022/23, compared with 1,071 in 2021/22, which was the year with the fewest firearm offences in the provided time period. Compared with previous years there were far fewer offences in 2020/21 and 2021/22, which may have been due to the lockdowns brought about by the COVID-19 pandemic. This is also reflected in London's overall crime rate, which fell from 102.4 crimes per 1,000 people in 2019/20, to 83.3 in 2020/21, before increasing to 92.8 in 2021/22, and 100.9 in the most recent reporting year. A great many more go unreported...
Number of firearm offences (excluding air weapons) in London from 2015/16 to 2022/23
As I said up the page, if the Mayors office and the Met are serious about stopping knife crime they have to be seen to impose a zero tollerance policy, a 'broken windows' policy which includes pedestrian and vehicle checkpoints in problem areas, and stop and search.
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Post by patman post on May 29, 2024 15:56:05 GMT
Levels of firearms crime in the UK remain amongst the lowest in the world; however, criminals continue to engage in firearms enabled crime — National Crime Agency info.
I hope that continues, and I’m all for catching and punishing anyone have a blade or firearm for illegal purposes. But I’ve no need to parade my views to support a failing political view…
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