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Post by happyhornet on May 29, 2024 10:00:07 GMT
Farage is a true democrat in a world of dictators, he fights for truth and justice. The problem i have with him is his soft approach to Russia, id vote for him, no problem, how you can argue with almost all of what he says is beyond me, its because he offends the left. And the left always supercedes common sense and replace it with dung. Farrage lost all democratic credibility when he came out to bat for Trump and his "Stop the Steal" nonsense in 2020. I don't see why he's getting so much coverage, he isn't a party leader, isn't standing for parliament (After 7 failed attempts) and has publicly stated he is prioritising the US presidential election over the British GE.
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Post by Totheleft on May 29, 2024 10:02:22 GMT
Farage is a true democrat in a world of dictators, he fights for truth and justice. The problem i have with him is his soft approach to Russia, id vote for him, no problem, how you can argue with almost all of what he says is beyond me, its because he offends the left. And the left always supercedes common sense and replace it with dung. Farrage lost all democratic credibility when he came out to bat for Trump and his "Stop the Steal" nonsense in 2020. I don't see why he's getting so much coverage, he isn't a party leader, isn't standing for parliament (After 7 failed attempts) and has publicly stated he is prioritising the US presidential election over the British GE. He loves the limelight
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Post by happyhornet on May 29, 2024 10:06:45 GMT
Farrage lost all democratic credibility when he came out to bat for Trump and his "Stop the Steal" nonsense in 2020. I don't see why he's getting so much coverage, he isn't a party leader, isn't standing for parliament (After 7 failed attempts) and has publicly stated he is prioritising the US presidential election over the British GE. He loves the limelight It seems so, he's a professional complainer.
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Post by johnofgwent on May 29, 2024 10:08:25 GMT
But it’s true and he’s not wrong that the two major parties lost any grip on immigration a long time ago,it’s also true that neither have any coherent policies to sort it linkPeople can shout Islamophobia and/or racism, but even Blair is now admitting his role in this increasing problem and extreme Islam but its not just that though his policy and illegal war brought all this down on this country,that and his abject surrender to the ideal of a political union has brought us to where we are today. People vilify Farage but for all that he never wrought the damage which was done by others,I don’t agree with him cosying up to Trump but it would be a mistake imo ignoring everything he says and those who call him extreme are clueless,if they continue to ignore what’s happening then they may well see real extremism. He's a one trick pony all he ever goes on about is Immigration immigration immigration. . that would be because it matters to most people. Or have you forgotten Gordon Brown’s views on grandmothers who worry their grandchildren will not have a job, or a home
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Post by Totheleft on May 29, 2024 10:16:36 GMT
He's a one trick pony all he ever goes on about is Immigration immigration immigration. . that would be because it matters to most people. Or have you forgotten Gordon Brown’s views on grandmothers who worry their grandchildren will not have a job, or a home Is it we see when let them all in Labour win . No reminder me on Gordon Brown remarks.
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Post by piglet on May 29, 2024 10:24:29 GMT
Politics would never of entered her head, she moved for the money, she told me that when she worked as a maid in Rome, she moved there for work, she ate once a day, a plate of speghetti with olive oil. Coming to britain was like living in paradise, she appreciated everything, unlike the immigrants of today.
What is the 7 times failure?
The answer is yes, of course, and she would get the arguments Farage is making, and accepted any refusal. She wasnt crazy. If britain doesnt look after itself, who will. ?
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Post by see2 on May 29, 2024 10:32:49 GMT
Neither party was responsible for the huge increase in asylum seekers. I neither love or hate Farage, I tend to ignore him as a rather big mouthed right-wing 'has been', not averse to insinuating lies during the Brexit debate. Blair was not guilty of illegal war. Holding strong opinions puts the onus on you to get your opinions right. An interesting read that appears to be objective comments by Hans Blix as he withdrew Inspectors just before the invasion of Iraq. press.un.org/en/2003/sc7777.doc.htm--"The long list of proscribed items unaccounted for had not been shortened by inspections or Iraqi declarations, explanations or documentation, he continued. It was up to Iraq to present items unaccounted for, or present evidence convincing the inspectors that the items did not exist. If that was not done, the international community could not have confidence that past programmes had been terminated. However, “an effective presence of international inspectors would serve as a deterrent against efforts aimed at reactivating or developing new programmes of weapons of mass destruction”, he said. Interesting, so how do you explain, all the decisions in the house of ill repute taken and agreed by all of them? Even when it was clearly shown to them, that the British people were firmly against the decisions they were taking at said time. When they were all over the internet pointing out it was not a decision in any way for the greater good? There were numerous reasons why an invasion of Iraq was necessary, but the decision was left to Parliament because there was a need to leave the decision to people who had the responsibility to know whether an invasion was, or was not, the right thing to do. It was definitely originally for the greater good, try reading UN. Sec Council Resolution 1441. I suspect it has widely been thought since that invasion, and based upon Bush's control of it, that he was not interested in UN Res 1441, he was more interested in getting revenge against terrorists in that area of the world, for 9/11. Blair's interest was based on Res 1441.
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Post by jonksy on May 29, 2024 10:36:43 GMT
Farage is a true democrat in a world of dictators, he fights for truth and justice. The problem i have with him is his soft approach to Russia, id vote for him, no problem, how you can argue with almost all of what he says is beyond me, its because he offends the left. And the left always supercedes common sense and replace it with dung. Farrage lost all democratic credibility when he came out to bat for Trump and his "Stop the Steal" nonsense in 2020. I don't see why he's getting so much coverage, he isn't a party leader, isn't standing for parliament (After 7 failed attempts) and has publicly stated he is prioritising the US presidential election over the British GE. You don't like our Nige hh because he took on the EUSSR and won...Get over it and move on FFS. Our Nige has more credibility than you and all the other dumbfuck trolls put together.
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Post by see2 on May 29, 2024 10:44:38 GMT
Farage is a true democrat in a world of dictators, he fights for truth and justice. The problem i have with him is his soft approach to Russia, id vote for him, no problem, how you can argue with almost all of what he says is beyond me, its because he offends the left. And the left always supercedes common sense and replace it with dung. Its because he offends commonsense. IMO, he is an insinuator and a distorter of both truth and reality. He fights for his truth and justice in the world as he sees it, if he was truly fighting for sensible objective truth and justice, I daresay he really would be very popular.
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Post by see2 on May 29, 2024 10:49:50 GMT
Farrage lost all democratic credibility when he came out to bat for Trump and his "Stop the Steal" nonsense in 2020. I don't see why he's getting so much coverage, he isn't a party leader, isn't standing for parliament (After 7 failed attempts) and has publicly stated he is prioritising the US presidential election over the British GE. You don't like our Nige hh because he took on the EUSSR and won...Get over it and move on FFS. Our Nige has more credibility than you and all the other dumbfuck trolls put together. It would be very interesting to see If he is lauded in 40 years time or if there will be an effigy of him alongside Guy Fawkes on the bonfire.
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Post by Handyman on May 29, 2024 10:50:23 GMT
He's a one trick pony all he ever goes on about is Immigration immigration immigration. . that would be because it matters to most people. Or have you forgotten Gordon Brown’s views on grandmothers who worry their grandchildren will not have a job, or a home From one of the papers back then She complained to Gordon Brown about paying tax on her pension, immigration, and asked him how he would pay back Britain's escalating national debt Prime Minister Gordon Brown has apologised after he was caught on microphone describing a voter he had spoken to in Rochdale as a "bigoted woman". Gillian Duffy, 65, had challenged Mr Brown on a number of issues including immigration and crime. Below are the exchanges that led to the row - and Mr Brown's apology on BBC Radio 2's Jeremy Vine programme. EXCHANGE IN ROCHDALE 1141 BST: While on a walkabout in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, Mr Brown speaks to Mrs Duffy. Gillian Duffy: How are you going to get us out of all this debt, Gordon? PM: Well, deficit reduction plan, cut the debt by half over the next four years, we've got the plans, they've been set out to do it. Look, I was the person who came in... BROWN'S 'BIGOTED' JIBE Gillian Duffy and Gordon Brown GD: Three main things what I was drummed in when I was a child was education, health service and looking after people who are vulnerable. PM: And that's what... GD: But there's too many people now who aren't vulnerable but they can claim and people who are vulnerable can't get claim, can't get it. PM: But they shouldn't be doing that. There's no life on the dole for people any more. If you're unemployed you've got to go back to work. It's six months... GD: You can't say anything about the immigrants because you're saying that you're... all these Eastern Europeans what are coming in, where are they flocking from? PM: A million people come from Europe but a million people, British people, have gone into Europe. You do know that there's a lot of British people staying in Europe as well?
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Post by happyhornet on May 29, 2024 10:51:15 GMT
Farrage lost all democratic credibility when he came out to bat for Trump and his "Stop the Steal" nonsense in 2020. I don't see why he's getting so much coverage, he isn't a party leader, isn't standing for parliament (After 7 failed attempts) and has publicly stated he is prioritising the US presidential election over the British GE. You don't like our Nige hh because he took on the EUSSR and won...Get over it and move on FFS. Our Nige has more credibility than you and all the other dumbfuck trolls put together. Harping back to a referendum result from 8 years ago on which Farrage's influence is debatable. He's yesterday's man at best.
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Post by andrewbrown on May 29, 2024 10:51:43 GMT
I hope lots vote for him (or at least his party, he isn't standing). The more the merrier. I suspect that when it actually comes down to it though, many will go back to the Tories on polling day.
This "patriot" makes it quite clear that the US election is more important than ours, something he restated in his press conference yesterday.
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2024 10:51:48 GMT
Farage is a true democrat in a world of dictators, he fights for truth and justice. The problem i have with him is his soft approach to Russia, id vote for him, no problem, how you can argue with almost all of what he says is beyond me, its because he offends the left. And the left always supercedes common sense and replace it with dung. Its because he offends commonsense. IMO, he is an insinuator and a distorter of both truth and reality. He fights for his truth and justice in the world as he sees it, if he was truly fighting for sensible objective truth and justice, I daresay he really would be very popular. What is objective truth and justice ? What you think it is ? Farage was the major player in the Brexit campaign imo and lefties will never forgive him. He highlighted the immigration problem and has the audacity to support Trump .
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Post by jonksy on May 29, 2024 11:07:44 GMT
You don't like our Nige hh because he took on the EUSSR and won...Get over it and move on FFS. Our Nige has more credibility than you and all the other dumbfuck trolls put together. Harping back to a referendum result from 8 years ago on which Farrage's influence is debatable. He's yesterday's man at best. Why shouldn't i go back 8 years? Is that just the domain for the dumbfucks who lost and are still grieving?
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