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Post by Totheleft on May 29, 2024 9:38:12 GMT
Let's see what the graph tells us . At the point of Liz trust there been litter or no recovery . Are you saying there was no Crash even the op saying there was . Don't you understand that and you Call me thick Doofus . Lol The op suggests that she did not cause the crash , you moron . ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/238004/threadDoofus . No hrs saying there was a crash you said there wasn't Mongo
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 29, 2024 9:41:44 GMT
Yes I have known that all along. The press are fucking liars.
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2024 9:45:19 GMT
No hrs saying there was a crash you said there wasn't Mongo Where did I say there was no crash Doofus ? Everyday’s a doofus day for you 😁
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Post by Totheleft on May 29, 2024 9:49:39 GMT
Let's see what the graph tells us . At the point of Liz trust there been litter or no recovery . Are you saying there was no Crash even the op saying there was . Don't you understand that and you Call me thick Doofus . Lol Look your self Mongo
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2024 9:58:36 GMT
Let's see what the graph tells us . At the point of Liz trust there been litter or no recovery . Are you saying there was no Crash even the op saying there was . Don't you understand that and you Call me thick Doofus . Lol Look your self Mongo Christ you are thick part 2 lol.
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Post by Totheleft on May 29, 2024 9:59:56 GMT
Christ you are thick part 2 lol. Sush Mongo
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2024 10:05:23 GMT
Christ you are thick part 2 lol. Sush Mongo I’m still waiting for the post where I claimed …and as quote …..doofus .”.there was no Crash even the op saying there was” Christ you are thick part 3 lol.
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Post by johnofgwent on May 29, 2024 10:13:05 GMT
I’m still waiting for some axes on that graph, or even a title explaining what it is
Because right now it could be ‘proportion of class a drug pissed into the thames’ given the trouble dealers had distributing theircwares during the pandemic
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Post by bancroft on May 29, 2024 17:37:25 GMT
UK rates at 5.25% US rates at 5.33%
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Post by steppenwolf on May 30, 2024 7:13:06 GMT
Truss did NOT crash the economy. Sunak, the BoE and the City ganged up on her and talked Sterling down. The mistake that Truss made was to ignore the Treasury (and sack Tom Scholar - a senior civil servant who then attacked her) and the BoE and the OBR. She pissed off an enormous number of people who are very powerful and they moved against her. The financial markets are VERY dependent on confidence and her enemies destroyed confidence in Sterling. And Sunak moved in and started making dire predictions that interest rates would go to 6% etc - which they have done anyway under Sunak.
The funny thing is that what the Truss budget did was actually very little different from what Sunak ended up doing. The only thing different was that Sunak didn't cut the top 45% rate on income tax - but this cost only £2 billion at the most. The biggest cost was helping people with energy bills - but Sunak had to do that anyway. Truss was trying to promote growth and she was slashing Corporation (which probably cost nothing). Sunak moved in and raised CT (which of course endeared him to the EU) and kyboshed growth.
The other interesting thing was that Truss got a pasting for damaging pensions because they're very dependent on LDIs (Liability Driven investments) and the claim was that the rise in interest rates that she was accused of causing (but which happened world-wide anyway) would trash the value of bonds. Of course it did but it was nothing to do with Truss. The BoE was the culprit here because the moron Andrew Bailey had decided to begin selling off gilts that it had issued for the QE it created to pay for furlough. There was absolutely NO need to do this. It was a deliberate move to trash bonds and destabilise Sterling.
Truss learned a hard lesson. If you do things that the Treasury and the City don't like they can hit back very hard. Politicians get a lot of flak (mostly justified) but they are to a large extent controlled by civil servants and the City.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2024 9:09:10 GMT
Liz Truss did not crash the economy.
Donald Trump did not lose the presidency.
And the moon landings were faked.
And Jeremy Corbyn was seen acting suspiciously on a grassy knoll in Dallas round about the time JFK was shot.
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Post by steppenwolf on May 30, 2024 9:44:42 GMT
Liz Truss did not crash the economy. Donald Trump did not lose the presidency. And the moon landings were faked. And Jeremy Corbyn was seen acting suspiciously on a grassy knoll in Dallas round about the time JFK was shot. Says someone who knows nothing about how finance and politics work. Your problem srb is that, if you don't learn how this stuff works you're going to be fooled by anything that people tell you - in your case you just believe leftie politicians. That's why you're confused. The economy was NOT crashed. Interest rates went up because of massive borrowing to finance the lockdowns and furlough - and of course a big increase in energy prices. Nothing to do with Truss at all. The governor of the BoE has lot to answer for (selling off gilts) - and of course Sunak for pissing away large amounts of money on furlough and bounce back loans.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2024 9:57:48 GMT
Liz Truss did not crash the economy. Donald Trump did not lose the presidency. And the moon landings were faked. And Jeremy Corbyn was seen acting suspiciously on a grassy knoll in Dallas round about the time JFK was shot. Says someone who knows nothing about how finance and politics work. Your problem srb is that, if you don't learn how this stuff works you're going to be fooled by anything that people tell you - in your case you just believe leftie politicians. That's why you're confused. The economy was NOT crashed. Interest rates went up because of massive borrowing to finance the lockdowns and furlough - and of course a big increase in energy prices. Nothing to do with Truss at all. The governor of the BoE has lot to answer for (selling off gilts) - and of course Sunak for pissing away large amounts of money on furlough and bounce back loans. Of course Truss never tanked the economy. The fact that every Joe and his grandad, including many in the Tory party and across the political spectrum, including most learned economists believe that she did simply demonstrates that they are all stupid. And that the only intelligent ones are supporters of her. The fact that the cuts were entirely unfunded had nothing to do with it, naturally. It was all a big left wing conspiracy involving big bankers, stock market traders - both hotbeds of socialism as we know - the liberal establishment and supporters of Rishi Sunak and the EU who conspired to destroy her. All of which is naturally more plausible than the economy being tanked by unfunded tax cuts for the better off. We are in desperate economic straits right now. Another Truss premiership is surely just what is required, is it not?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2024 10:01:05 GMT
No hrs saying there was a crash you said there wasn't Mongo Where did I say there was no crash Doofus ? Everyday’s a doofus day for you 😁 You ought to join an oratorical debating society. They'd clearly find you a wonder to behold.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2024 10:06:13 GMT
Let's see what the graph tells us . At the point of Liz trust there been litter or no recovery . Are you saying there was no Crash even the op saying there was . Don't you understand that and you Call me thick Doofus . Lol Look your self Mongo lol. Maybe he should be appointed ambassador for a central African state? Then our man in Africa could be Mongo in the Congo. You could make a sitcom out of it with Rowan Atkinson in the lead as Mongo. There is plenty of comedy gold material throughout this forum to draw upon.
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