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Post by morayloon on May 22, 2024 18:02:33 GMT
The SFA has decided that the Scotland v Israel women's Euro Qualifier match will be played behind closed doors as will the return fixture (to be held in Hungary). Why are Israel even allowed to play in European sport? Why is Israel allowed to play Internationally given the mass murder, and wholesale destruction of property, in Gaza, brutally carried out by the IDF. The world of sport was quick enough to ban Russia, and that country has not caused near the level of destruction and killings that Israel is guilty of.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2024 19:22:11 GMT
The Reich appreciate your hatred of English and Jews.
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Post by Dogburger on May 22, 2024 20:45:25 GMT
The SFA has decided that the Scotland v Israel women's Euro Qualifier match will be played behind closed doors as will the return fixture (to be held in Hungary). Why are Israel even allowed to play in European sport? Why is Israel allowed to play Internationally given the mass murder, and wholesale destruction of property, in Gaza, brutally carried out by the IDF. The world of sport was quick enough to ban Russia, and that country has not caused near the level of destruction and killings that Israel is guilty of. They play in European competition because they are affiliated to EUFA . Israel would not be able to play international sport in the middle east as many Muslim countries will not play them those that would were deemed a security risk . Europe was the nearest alternative where people in general don't kick off over religion Russia was banned because they invaded a sovereign state . Israel has protected itself from terrorism ,completely different . You can argue if Israels retaliation has been excessive but with hostages still not returned and Hamas still firing rockets into Israel you would have to say 'what else do you expect them to do'. Deaths through war are shit for all involved but even there you have it wrong .Deaths in Gaza are estimated at 37,000 and in Ukraine 120,000 troops and 30,000 civilians . Not to mention the reported half a million Russians .
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Post by Bentley on May 22, 2024 21:04:05 GMT
Come on Israel ! 👍
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Post by morayloon on May 22, 2024 22:48:32 GMT
The SFA has decided that the Scotland v Israel women's Euro Qualifier match will be played behind closed doors as will the return fixture (to be held in Hungary). Why are Israel even allowed to play in European sport? Why is Israel allowed to play Internationally given the mass murder, and wholesale destruction of property, in Gaza, brutally carried out by the IDF. The world of sport was quick enough to ban Russia, and that country has not caused near the level of destruction and killings that Israel is guilty of. They play in European competition because they are affiliated to EUFA . Israel would not be able to play international sport in the middle east as many Muslim countries will not play them those that would were deemed a security risk . Europe was the nearest alternative where people in general don't kick off over religion Russia was banned because they invaded a sovereign state . Israel has protected itself from terrorism ,completely different . You can argue if Israels retaliation has been excessive but with hostages still not returned and Hamas still firing rockets into Israel you would have to say 'what else do you expect them to do'. Deaths through war are shit for all involved but even there you have it wrong .Deaths in Gaza are estimated at 37,000 and in Ukraine 120,000 troops and 30,000 civilians . Not to mention the reported half a million Russians . Aye, I know why they are playing in Europe. But, why were they allowed to join UEFA in the first place? It is not only countries in Middle East that won't play Israel. The country was kicked out of the Asian "Protected itself from terrorism"? I think that argument has long passed its sell by date. As for hostages, the Israelis hold thousands of Palestinian hostages including many children. Hamas firing their 'home made' rockets is nothing compared to the missile bombardment facing the Palestinians in Gaza. Interested to know where you sourced the figures re Ukraine & Russia from?
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Post by borchester on May 23, 2024 3:56:52 GMT
Anyone but Scotland !
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Post by thomas on May 23, 2024 6:12:28 GMT
The SFA has decided that the Scotland v Israel women's Euro Qualifier match will be played behind closed doors as will the return fixture (to be held in Hungary). Why are Israel even allowed to play in European sport? Why is Israel allowed to play Internationally given the mass murder, and wholesale destruction of property, in Gaza, brutally carried out by the IDF. The world of sport was quick enough to ban Russia, and that country has not caused near the level of destruction and killings that Israel is guilty of. They play in European competition because they are affiliated to EUFA . Israel would not be able to play international sport in the middle east as many Muslim countries will not play them those that would were deemed a security risk . Europe was the nearest alternative where people in general don't kick off over religion Russia was banned because they invaded a sovereign state . Israel has protected itself from terrorism ,completely different . You can argue if Israels retaliation has been excessive but with hostages still not returned and Hamas still firing rockets into Israel you would have to say 'what else do you expect them to do'. Deaths through war are shit for all involved but even there you have it wrong .Deaths in Gaza are estimated at 37,000 and in Ukraine 120,000 troops and 30,000 civilians . Not to mention the reported half a million Russians . The question is why? I would say that is total bollocks. If the muslim Middle East world is so bad , why did they award the World Cup finals to Qatar? What would they have done had Israel qualified for the finals? Is the muslim world only a security risk for Israelis when Arabs aren't giving FIFA brown envelopes? again I call this out here. Europe has its flashpoints over religion , Northern Ireland as an example and the old firm . We could dig up others as well. Not to mention Europe was the continent where the holocaust happened. Countries can be banned for many reasons. England was banned for the behaviour of its fans if you remember? Hasnt the ICC issued arrest warrants for the leaders of Israel? I think the point is we all know how corrupt football is , how meaningless the virtue signalling is over certain issues while others are ignored , and how the laughable so called international rules system is bent to suit whatever narrative is in vogue.
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Post by thomas on May 23, 2024 6:15:27 GMT
Anyone but Scotland !
I tell you borkie ,I do laugh at the English. They tell me Scottish fitba is crap as it's a two horse race between rangers and Celtic. Meanwhile , in England , they ignore the fact its a one horse race , Man City , and its no even a race mate , the fucking horse has bolted.
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Post by thomas on May 23, 2024 6:17:37 GMT
They play in European competition because they are affiliated to EUFA . Israel would not be able to play international sport in the middle east as many Muslim countries will not play them those that would were deemed a security risk . Europe was the nearest alternative where people in general don't kick off over religion Russia was banned because they invaded a sovereign state . Israel has protected itself from terrorism ,completely different . You can argue if Israels retaliation has been excessive but with hostages still not returned and Hamas still firing rockets into Israel you would have to say 'what else do you expect them to do'. Deaths through war are shit for all involved but even there you have it wrong .Deaths in Gaza are estimated at 37,000 and in Ukraine 120,000 troops and 30,000 civilians . Not to mention the reported half a million Russians . Aye, I know why they are playing in Europe. But, why were they allowed to join UEFA in the first place? It is not only countries in Middle East that won't play Israel. The country was kicked out of the Asian "Protected itself from terrorism"? I think that argument has long passed its sell by date. As for hostages, the Israelis hold thousands of Palestinian hostages including many children. Hamas firing their 'home made' rockets is nothing compared to the missile bombardment facing the Palestinians in Gaza. Interested to know where you sourced the figures re Ukraine & Russia from? moray you are wasting your breath mate . the football world , like must else in the west , is rotten to the core of its very being .political might , and money talk.
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Post by Dogburger on May 23, 2024 8:30:53 GMT
They play in European competition because they are affiliated to EUFA . Israel would not be able to play international sport in the middle east as many Muslim countries will not play them those that would were deemed a security risk . Europe was the nearest alternative where people in general don't kick off over religion Russia was banned because they invaded a sovereign state . Israel has protected itself from terrorism ,completely different . You can argue if Israels retaliation has been excessive but with hostages still not returned and Hamas still firing rockets into Israel you would have to say 'what else do you expect them to do'. Deaths through war are shit for all involved but even there you have it wrong .Deaths in Gaza are estimated at 37,000 and in Ukraine 120,000 troops and 30,000 civilians . Not to mention the reported half a million Russians . The question is why? I would say that is total bollocks. If the muslim Middle East world is so bad , why did they award the World Cup finals to Qatar? What would they have done had Israel qualified for the finals? Is the muslim world only a security risk for Israelis when Arabs aren't giving FIFA brown envelopes? again I call this out here. Europe has its flashpoints over religion , Northern Ireland as an example and the old firm . We could dig up others as well. Not to mention Europe was the continent where the holocaust happened. Countries can be banned for many reasons. England was banned for the behaviour of its fans if you remember? Hasnt the ICC issued arrest warrants for the leaders of Israel? I think the point is we all know how corrupt football is , how meaningless the virtue signalling is over certain issues while others are ignored , and how the laughable so called international rules system is bent to suit whatever narrative is in vogue. Explains why news.sky.com/story/why-does-israels-football-team-play-in-europe-10359083England was never banned , English clubs were after the Heysel stadium incident involving Liverpool fans . There are flashpoints from religious bigots in some countries but its generally between themselves and are hardly any threat to an Israel football team especially in Glasgow where Celtic fans were busy giving a shoeing to each other last week (u-tube videos are available) And yes I take your point on football corruption and other issues within the game but this isnt about the game its about international recognition and support for Israel by the governing bodies (even if they dont bank on it from the fans )
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Post by Dogburger on May 23, 2024 9:01:05 GMT
They play in European competition because they are affiliated to EUFA . Israel would not be able to play international sport in the middle east as many Muslim countries will not play them those that would were deemed a security risk . Europe was the nearest alternative where people in general don't kick off over religion Russia was banned because they invaded a sovereign state . Israel has protected itself from terrorism ,completely different . You can argue if Israels retaliation has been excessive but with hostages still not returned and Hamas still firing rockets into Israel you would have to say 'what else do you expect them to do'. Deaths through war are shit for all involved but even there you have it wrong .Deaths in Gaza are estimated at 37,000 and in Ukraine 120,000 troops and 30,000 civilians . Not to mention the reported half a million Russians . Aye, I know why they are playing in Europe. But, why were they allowed to join UEFA in the first place? It is not only countries in Middle East that won't play Israel. The country was kicked out of the Asian "Protected itself from terrorism"? I think that argument has long passed its sell by date. As for hostages, the Israelis hold thousands of Palestinian hostages including many children. Hamas firing their 'home made' rockets is nothing compared to the missile bombardment facing the Palestinians in Gaza. Interested to know where you sourced the figures re Ukraine & Russia from? Why is explained in the link in my post to thomas . The figures for Ukraine / Russia are wrong .It appears I read casualties as dead .(statista )
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Post by thomas on May 24, 2024 7:10:25 GMT
Explains why news.sky.com/story/why-does-israels-football-team-play-in-europe-10359083England was never banned , English clubs were after the Heysel stadium incident involving Liverpool fans . There are flashpoints from religious bigots in some countries but its generally between themselves and are hardly any threat to an Israel football team especially in Glasgow where Celtic fans were busy giving a shoeing to each other last week (u-tube videos are available) And yes I take your point on football corruption and other issues within the game but this isnt about the game its about international recognition and support for Israel by the governing bodies (even if they dont bank on it from the fans ) That doesn't explain why Israel plays in Uefa. If I recall , the Arab states refused to play Israel in football competiton , but it doesn't explain how the Arab states make up only a part of the 47 nation Asian Football Confederation , and Isreal could have been sent to play the non Arab states in the AFC with the qualifying re drawn to keep the Arabs and Israelis apart. They could also have been sent to play in their near neighbours in CAF. irrelevant. You made out sanctions were applied in Russias case because they invaded Ukraine , and I am making the point sanctions can be applied for many reason in many ways. English clubs were sanctioned as a whole ( despite one club being involved in Heysel) for 39 deaths. There are 35 000 estimated deaths in Gaza. Why no football sanctions on Israel? The terrorism excuse is of course nonsense . Russia is also claiming to invade Ukraine to fight Neo nazi terrorists attacking ethnic Russians. Either the same rule applies equally without fear or favour to all , or it becomes a mockery much ridiculed . There are flashpoints between many countries around the world , involving religion , and other issues. FFS Russian and Ukrainian teams are hardly going to be playing football with each other are they? The point is why are Israel singled out as special , and put into Uefa? The Arab world is only a small part of the football world outside Uefa. Are we saying everyone outside Uefa is a danger to Israel? Both ireland and Spain in Uefa condemn Israel , and bosnia of course is a muslim country who recently accused Israel of genocide denial. rubbish. You are not once again answering my point. You claim it's unsafe for Israel to play football in the Arab world , and I point out world footballing authorities awarded the last World Cup , of which Israel attempted to qualify for , to an Arab country. Your final point seems a contradiction regarding support of Israel from governing bodies , when your earlier argument hinged on the implication of Arab fans attacking the Israeli team. so if Israel had qualified for the 2022 World Cup , and the Qatari football association had voiced support for Israel participating , but the fans had attacked the Israeli team , that would have been ok then? Seems to me to be a litany of puerile excuses and broken rules bent to suit whatever political situation is in vogue at any current point among the western elite. As I implied earlier.
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Post by thomas on May 24, 2024 7:13:31 GMT
Aye, I know why they are playing in Europe. But, why were they allowed to join UEFA in the first place? It is not only countries in Middle East that won't play Israel. The country was kicked out of the Asian "Protected itself from terrorism"? I think that argument has long passed its sell by date. As for hostages, the Israelis hold thousands of Palestinian hostages including many children. Hamas firing their 'home made' rockets is nothing compared to the missile bombardment facing the Palestinians in Gaza. Interested to know where you sourced the figures re Ukraine & Russia from? Why is explained in the link in my post to thomas . The figures for Ukraine / Russia are wrong .It appears I read casualties as dead .(statista ) you didnt explain it. Why are Israel playing football in UEFA ? We know why they couldn't play teams from the Arab world , we aren't asking that.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2024 11:38:15 GMT
Anyone but Scotland !
Scotland will end up being red carded for Jew hatred before it even kicks off.
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Post by johnofgwent on May 27, 2024 8:58:39 GMT
The SFA has decided that the Scotland v Israel women's Euro Qualifier match will be played behind closed doors as will the return fixture (to be held in Hungary). Why are Israel even allowed to play in European sport? Why is Israel allowed to play Internationally given the mass murder, and wholesale destruction of property, in Gaza, brutally carried out by the IDF. The world of sport was quick enough to ban Russia, and that country has not caused near the level of destruction and killings that Israel is guilty of. They play in European competition because they are affiliated to EUFA . Israel would not be able to play international sport in the middle east as many Muslim countries will not play them those that would were deemed a security risk . Europe was the nearest alternative where people in general don't kick off over religion Russia was banned because they invaded a sovereign state . Israel has protected itself from terrorism ,completely different Will you still cheer them on after Netanahu is convicted of genocide ?
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