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Post by borchester on Jun 28, 2024 15:04:35 GMT
A rider to all this is that the state pension is subject to tax, but because of the way HMRC calculates these matters, it ain't.
For example, if your state pension is £9,000 and you get £9,000 on your work pension, your total income is £18.000.
The tax threshold is £12,571, so your taxable income is £18,000 - £12,571 which equals £5,429.
And because HMRC are a civilised bunch and don't like to shock the cotton tops overmuch, they start their calculations with the state pension, so it looks as though it is not subject to tax.
I used to work for HMRC and there was a splendid lady who refused to retire and when someone rang up and asked why they were paying tax when they were retired, she would snarl well, no one is asking your opinion are they ?
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 28, 2024 15:06:54 GMT
Urn Andrew look at what you written to me Like i said ive used pensioners in the General term . Like pensioners get Triple lock pension And you know not all pensioners get it .What pensioners do not get the triple lock pension? All the triple lock is is a method of calculating the pension rise each year - and all state pensioners get the same percentage rise as calculated by the triple lock.
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Post by Bentley on Jun 28, 2024 15:08:08 GMT
Urn Andrew look at what you written to me Like i said ive used pensioners in the General term . Like pensioners get Triple lock pension And you know not all pensioners get it . Look at my post from Age concern and all my other post that use the general term pensioners . Are you saying there wrong . The triple lock applies to both the basic state pension (pre-April 2016) and the new state pension (post-April 2016) www.thetimes.com/money-mentor/pensions-retirement/state-pension/pensions-triple-lockThe triple lock is a government guarantee that the UK State Pension payments won't erode with rising inflation. It applies to everyone receiving the basic State Pension (pre-April 2016) and the new State Pension (post-April 2016) www.kota.io/blog/triple-lock-pension-uk#Wrong again doofus .
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 28, 2024 16:28:15 GMT
Looks like Labour are losing the Muslim vote - not being on the side of Hamas has effects in some sections of the community.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 28, 2024 16:45:03 GMT
Starmer flapping a bit when held to account - surprised he didn't tell us his father was a toolmaker..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2024 19:40:06 GMT
Urn Andrew look at what you written to me Like i said ive used pensioners in the General term . Like pensioners get Triple lock pension And you know not all pensioners get it .What pensioners do not get the triple lock pension? All the triple lock is is a method of calculating the pension rise each year - and all state pensioners get the same percentage rise as calculated by the triple lock. It's a very unfair battle of wits, when the left are unarmed. How many times do we have to prove TTL wrong? Can we get back to discussing the election? Like, the plans Labour have for concessionary bus passes, whether they will keep the triple lock and whether they will put a tax on savings and total wealth?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2024 19:42:04 GMT
Looks like Labour are losing the Muslim vote - not being on the side of Hamas has effects in some sections of the community. Hamas favourite colour is Green! Those Greens love underdogs and lost causes.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 28, 2024 21:29:30 GMT
It is ironic - the Greens used to be about saving the planet and looking after the environment. Now they are so left-wing they are almost communist who left in their wake more pollution than any other political system..
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 29, 2024 2:38:50 GMT
As per the trolling thread on the other site, I am sure andrewbrown will be disheartened to hear that Starmer would endeavour to do a trade deal with the US.
The only hope for andrew, Zany & co. is that Starmer is blatantly lying to the British public because it's their hope Starmer takes the UK back into the EU and even adopt the Euro!
Now, Starmner has seen the light. He's claimed he's visited Norway and Switzerland and is happy with the deal the UK has with the EU, and doesn't want to open old wounds that would make economic turmoil for the UK trying to
do the hokey cokey of an in-out relationship with the EU. Surely, even the EU would be fed-up with this half-heartedness that is clear throughout UK politics about EU membership. Remember, remainers couldn't even make positive
arguments for the EU itself, even the EU realised Brits weren't in the EU for the reasons many of its zealous adherents are.
I cannot believe that Starmer would blatantly lie to the British public over not going back into the EU. He now says he would do a trade deal with the US which puts even more daylight between going back to that bureaucratic
behemoth; but then I ask myself what would puppet master Blair be thinking in the background of all of this?
Is Starmer lying to the British general public that would only be condoned by some of those on that 'other place', or is he speaking truth which has been a difficult word to associate him with?
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 29, 2024 17:23:57 GMT
Even Labour Party members dont want to vote Labour...
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Post by zanygame on Jun 29, 2024 20:54:27 GMT
Even Labour Party members dont want to vote Labour... Shock horror Corbyn's team support Corbyn
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 30, 2024 8:14:00 GMT
As per the trolling thread on the other site, I am sure andrewbrown will be disheartened to hear that Starmer would endeavour to do a trade deal with the US. The only hope for andrew, Zany & co. is that Starmer is blatantly lying to the British public because it's their hope Starmer takes the UK back into the EU and even adopt the Euro! Now, Starmner has seen the light. He's claimed he's visited Norway and Switzerland and is happy with the deal the UK has with the EU, and doesn't want to open old wounds that would make economic turmoil for the UK trying to do the hokey cokey of an in-out relationship with the EU. Surely, even the EU would be fed-up with this half-heartedness that is clear throughout UK politics about EU membership. Remember, remainers couldn't even make positive arguments for the EU itself, even the EU realised Brits weren't in the EU for the reasons many of its zealous adherents are. I cannot believe that Starmer would blatantly lie to the British public over not going back into the EU. He now says he would do a trade deal with the US which puts even more daylight between going back to that bureaucratic behemoth; but then I ask myself what would puppet master Blair be thinking in the background of all of this? Is Starmer lying to the British general public that would only be condoned by some of those on that 'other place', or is he speaking truth which has been a difficult word to associate him with? If Trump becomes President he wont want to do any deals with a Labour government, and you have that vile racist Khan to thank for that, depicting Trump as a Giant Baby Balloon wearing a nappy just about sums up the low intillectual mentality of Khan .... he should have been fired on the spot, making the people of the United Kingdom come across as petty and bias ......
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 30, 2024 8:47:59 GMT
Yes , I highlighted the lefty pretence that handouts don't come as a package ( they do) if you care to look back Why are you repeating your previous posted lefty misinformation that Job seekers/ESA is taxable per se - it isn't. (ESA) and jobseeker's allowance (JSA) can be taxable if they are paid based on National Insurance contributions you have made, or can be non-taxable if they are instead means-tested (based on your financial situation).Another Win-win for the never/hardly worked handouts sponger www.litrg.org.uk/tax-nic/how-tax-collected/tax-state-benefits#:~:text=You%20need%20to%20be%20careful,based%20on%20your%20financial%20situation).Except that the other form of JSA, Jsa(IB) has been rolled into UC, so doesn't really exist anymore, so any JSA claims are based on NI contributions. It clearly exists as per my up to date quote Stop being pedantic about nothing
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 30, 2024 8:49:41 GMT
Pensioners pay less council tax Another perk . Cant wait to be a Pensioner Pensioners pay less council tax? Since when?
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 30, 2024 8:52:37 GMT
Ok Bentley and Squezzed Let Doofus Explain in Simpel terms Yes pensioners pay council tax but at a Reduced rate . Ie lower rate Not has much. Discounted Happy to help love Doofus Rubbish
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