|
|
Post by ProVeritas on Jun 28, 2024 16:18:28 GMT
Clearly you didn’t read it in detail before you dropped it, ProVeritas … I’m sure some of the better researched Membership are likely to draw the same conclusions I did. Oh no, better researched Members than I will almost certainly conclude the same as me. Because you are routinely posting complete and utter tin-foil-hat-wearing fuckwittery. All The Best |
|
|
|
Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 28, 2024 20:50:17 GMT
Sounds like you didn’t check out the Alcubierre warp drive piece I just dropped??
… Calling these scientists and what they do “f**kwittery” is the height of disrespect.
… somebody needs to step up in Moderation … and make you wash your potty mouth out. … especially in the Mind Zone ….
…. or are you likewise too ignorant to research the Rules of the Mind Zone? … as well as the science being dropped here?
Maybe you should toddle off to Twitter … where your poor debating/research skills will be less exposed?
|
|
|
|
Post by Vinny on Jun 28, 2024 22:53:01 GMT
You posted some obscure site, not anything scientific. Anyone can post anything online, doesn't make something credible. What makes something credible is the scientific community looking up, reviewing ideas and testing them. There are people studying the Alcubierre metric, but you're ignoring the drawbacks highlighted by scientists. clas.ucdenver.edu/math-clinic/sites/default/files/attached-files/master_project_mach_.pdfThere's some pretty heavy science in that. You have a belief, you do not have scientific evidence that your belief can be possible. |
|
|
|
Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 2, 2024 4:59:11 GMT
There is no date on your piece … but I will still read it … my article was very recent … showing many scientists now think your conclusions on energy and harm to warp drive travellers is a complete mis-calculation.
… there are so many contrary opinions on this subject … so you have to just roll with the idea you might be completely wrong.
Witness reports show E.T. can survive warp drive travel … and the energy debt is an infinitesimal fraction of your claims.
|
|
|
|
Post by Vinny on Jul 2, 2024 5:42:12 GMT
You haven't provided any mathematical basis to challenge the scientific consensus about the flaws and deadly dangers with the Alcubierre metric.
Even if there were some way to find enough energy, the risks from Hawking radiation appear.
Arrogance and haste lead to disasters.
There was arrogance and haste in the construction of the Tacoma narrows bridge, there was arrogance and haste with the DeHavilland Comet 1 airliner, and also the Oceangate Titan.
With all those, the it'll be fine approach failed and led to catastrophe.
Any doubts need fully investigating. Safety is the most important consideration. A potential to devastate a planet, is too serious a risk to take. It's bad enough to have a potential to kill the crew.
|
|
|
|
Post by johnofgwent on Jul 3, 2024 10:44:09 GMT
Crossing the Atlantic was a fantasy, once. In a boat, with sails,no or little shelter. Its just a matter of time before we sail in the heavens, the only thing we need is the will to do it. That and the power of a couple of exploding suns. I know starring in a science FANTASY series doesn’t qualify you to discuss stuff as a hard scientist, but i as reasonably impressed with one such hard science programme hosted and fronted by one such actress The people interviewed seemed sensible. The thing was, their ideas all had power requirements that made Sol seem inadequate. My science training focussed on biology not physics If people want me to seriously follow high energy magicks stuff then they first need to have an ability to explain the double slit experiment to an american presidential voter. My problem is the studies i have undertaken in my own specialist field of hard science lead me down an inevitable path. The inevitability being the inability of the meat that carries our intelligence to withstand the rigours of such a journey |
|
|
|
Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 3, 2024 23:11:16 GMT
You haven't provided any mathematical basis to challenge the scientific consensus about the flaws and deadly dangers with the Alcubierre metric. Even if there were some way to find enough energy, the risks from Hawking radiation appear. Arrogance and haste lead to disasters. There was arrogance and haste in the construction of the Tacoma narrows bridge, there was arrogance and haste with the DeHavilland Comet 1 airliner, and also the Oceangate Titan. With all those, the it'll be fine approach failed and led to catastrophe. Any doubts need fully investigating. Safety is the most important consideration. A potential to devastate a planet, is too serious a risk to take. It's bad enough to have a potential to kill the crew. Personally it’s the arrogance and haste in which you and certain arrogant scientists have dismissed the witness evidence surrounding UFO’s and entities who took the trouble to come here across vast distances at incredibly high speeds, possibly through trans-dimensional/dark matter wormholes …. and were rudely ignored. Clearly aliens that visit have few concerns about Hawking radiations, or the energy limitations you seem happy to throw in the way of scientists stupid enough to trip up and FAIL … following your negative advice …. and attitude. Step aside … a new age is dawning. Your Deep State is a dead species. |
|
|
|
Post by Vinny on Jul 4, 2024 7:00:08 GMT
Statements of belief are not evidence of anything.
|
|
|
|
Post by johnofgwent on Jul 5, 2024 12:01:46 GMT
Statements of belief are not evidence of anything. To be scrupulously fair, a chap on sci astro misc about god 30 years ago had all sorts of barking mad ideas about a second earth in our orbit the other side of the sun. He used to whinge no one took him seriously A chap associated with the Science Museum brilliantly took him to task better than i ever could. He simply said that it was long established custom and practice that science progressed by persons first having an idea, which it seemed he had reached, but then he had to come up with, ir invite others to come up with, ways we could determine the accuracy or not of those ideas, and given that this chap seemed unwilling to come up with any such AND did nothing except rubbish those who put forward ways these ideas could be out to the test, then he, in common with, he felt, the majority of the scientific community here on sci.astro.misc and in the wider world, can only really in professional terms admit these ideas are ‘interesting’, but can go no further. My formal training obliges and indeed requires me to accept anyone of any background can come up with any idea they like, but that’s as far as it goes until someone adds ‘well if that were the case then if we did THIS then we should see / measure THAT’ well interesting is as far as i go |
|
|
|
Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 10, 2024 6:52:44 GMT
Statements of belief are not evidence of anything. To be scrupulously fair, a chap on sci astro misc about god 30 years ago had all sorts of barking mad ideas about a second earth in our orbit the other side of the sun. He used to whinge no one took him seriously A chap associated with the Science Museum brilliantly took him to task better than i ever could. He simply said that it was long established custom and practice that science progressed by persons first having an idea, which it seemed he had reached, but then he had to come up with, ir invite others to come up with, ways we could determine the accuracy or not of those ideas, and given that this chap seemed unwilling to come up with any such AND did nothing except rubbish those who put forward ways these ideas could be out to the test, then he, in common with, he felt, the majority of the scientific community here on sci.astro.misc and in the wider world, can only really in professional terms admit these ideas are ‘interesting’, but can go no further. My formal training obliges and indeed requires me to accept anyone of any background can come up with any idea they like, but that’s as far as it goes until someone adds ‘well if that were the case then if we did THIS then we should see / measure THAT’ well interesting is as far as i go …. or maybe your condescending friends on sci.astro.misc were very poor observers … ignored real evidence staring them in the face … couldn’t step out of a ‘mindset’ … and were easily manipulated by factions that didn’t want Humanity ‘educated’?? … and boundaries of knowledge pushed forwards more rapidly? www.space.com/planet-9-cometary-bodies-neptune-solar-system#:~:text=More%20evidence%20for%20a%20hypothetical,looping%20paths%20around%20the%20sun. Looks like your ‘barking mad guy’ was 30 years ahead of the Establishment view … how embarrassing. |
|
|
|
Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 13, 2024 5:35:46 GMT
Here’s some more “f.wittery” for those who know how to do ‘observational science’ rather than just blackboard mathematics that takes you down rabbit holes to nowhere. www.mdpi.com/2073-8994/13/3/442Interesting experiments going on in Turkey … unhindered by those in Authority trying to squash progress in this area of research. It’s not difficult to see how these levitation effects could be at play in storm-charged weather systems creating the conditions for cloud formation, water molecule attraction, sustained levitation of hundreds of tons of water and tons of large heavy lumps of hail … in weather systems where low velocity updrafts alone will not sustain lift …. These thermal/dipolar ‘elevators’ within storm clouds create a sustained rising and falling convection that slowly builds up the layers in heavy hailstones. Geo-weathering … chemical particulate Ba/K metal ion and microwave manipulation/2,3,4,5G pollution since WW2 has largely been responsible for extreme weather … and energized the dipolar energy effect to create more drama in our weather systems … weird cloud formations many of us never witnessed in the 60’s and 70’s. Cleaner diesel/petrol engine performance greatly reduced the impact of smog particulates in the atmosphere … and the drastic reduction in flights during the Plandemic greatly improved air quality for asthmatics … who have had a torrid time since the covert Chemtrail programme started many moons ago. The Green Lobby/JSO is financially linked to those obsessed with defunding our Nations and destroying our economies … (no wonder they waged war on Trump) … happy to point a finger at the wrong culprits to generate more profit to those determined to destroy our Civilisations … the Globalist Mafia. |
|
|
|
Post by Vinny on Jul 13, 2024 5:59:12 GMT
If you can't post science, I won't bother with your delusional links.
|
|
|
|
Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 13, 2024 6:28:44 GMT
Were the mathematical equations in this peer-reviewed Turkish research too much for you?? …
… Still waiting patiently for your ‘translation’ of the Hawking Equation piece you dropped weeks ago …
… I least I am honest about my limitations in the field of mathematics … and languages in general.
Tbh, Some Members here are sick and tired of your “f.wittery complaints” about the observational scientific evidence … and witness testimony being dropped on this Forum …
…. If you moaners don’t like these threads … nobody forces you to attend the Mind Zone.
I can understand Frontier Science isn’t for everyone.😋
😄
|
|
|
|
Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 13, 2024 6:34:51 GMT
Were the mathematical equations in this peer-reviewed Turkish research too much for you?? … … Still waiting patiently for your ‘translation’ of the Hawking Equation piece you dropped weeks ago … … I least I am honest about my limitations in the field of mathematics … and languages in general. Tbh, Some Members here are sick and tired of your “f.wittery complaints” about the observational scientific evidence … and witness testimony being dropped on this Forum … …. If you moaners don’t like these threads … nobody forces you to attend the Mind Zone. I can understand Frontier Science isn’t for everyone.😋 😄 See my video on spinors and learn some maths. It's very interesting stuff, but everyone ignores it because it is too mathematical. |
|
|
|
Post by Vinny on Jul 13, 2024 7:01:25 GMT
Post the maths directly into this thread.
It's not hard.
I don't want links to dodgy propaganda sites.
|
|
