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Post by Vinny on Jun 13, 2024 18:51:58 GMT
There is no basis for your antigravity theory. This is what is really happening: |
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Post by Orac on Jun 13, 2024 20:02:59 GMT
Because …Some of the evidence dropped here suggests there might be other Forces at work. … do you not agree … there is something extra interesting possibly going on here?🤔 Be specific - what have you seen that could not be explained by the wind theory of hail formation? |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 13, 2024 20:54:06 GMT
Because …Some of the evidence dropped here suggests there might be other Forces at work. … do you not agree … there is something extra interesting possibly going on here?🤔 Be specific - what have you seen that could not be explained by the wind theory of hail formation? Little green men in flying saucers shooting hailstone out their arses? It is about as scientific as anything Dubs has ever posted. All The Best |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 13, 2024 21:13:31 GMT
Thermal updrafts are what glider pilots use for cross country flying.
Look how strong this is.
Watch his altimeter. Far heavier than hailstones and going up like stink.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 14, 2024 6:22:17 GMT
Because …Some of the evidence dropped here suggests there might be other Forces at work. … do you not agree … there is something extra interesting possibly going on here?🤔 Be specific - what have you seen that could not be explained by the wind theory of hail formation? The clues are in the TIME it takes to build up from a heavy core droplet of water to an increasingly heavy … multiple layered dust coated electro-piezo ‘battery’ of density heavy ice … that should sit happily on the ground as soon as updraft drops and releases it.   … if you analyse the dust layering in the water and ice … it is a bit like the layered piles in a voltaic battery, no? …and stick it in the electrical storm and you see the electro-magnetic lift at play. Even dry dust storms create lightening … especially around volcano clouds … The other clue is these heavily laden cloud systems seem to suddenly drop their ‘cargo’ … as the cloud is earthed to ground or in some way loses it’s ‘charge/lift orientation’. Maybe the cloud drop of a pyroclastic flow occurs when the electro-dynamic lift of the heavy levitated debris suddenly breaks down … and gravity suddenly gets back to work! It makes logical sense to me … maybe others can rationalise the ionisation/positron/electrical differential possibilities here? +++++++++++++ Btw, Vinny … your glider pilots get ‘lift’ from the differential of airflow over an aerofoil designed wing … so large round hailstones that show a similar profile to a UFO, might generate a degree of aerofoil lift 👍 - but does this ‘hailstone glider’ share similar aerofoil-winged abilities?? … Hmmm … personally, I’m not so sure?  |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 14, 2024 6:32:46 GMT
Thermal updrafts can last for hours. Wings only sustain flight in a downward glide a glider cannot climb without outside assistance like a thermal updraft. Fair bit of strength to that updraft, even a light single seater can weigh hundreds of kilos. Far heavier than a hailstone.
Those hailstones get bounced around in a cumulus nimbus cloud until the thermals die off and the cloud reaches full maturity and then at full saturation, with thermal activity died off, with everything cooling, precipitation happens.
And the electric charge in thunderstorms comes from the clash of a warm humid air mass and a cold air mass meeting and clashing.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 14, 2024 7:32:15 GMT
That is the ‘conventional view’, Vinny … but my argument has some validity too … based on similar scientific principles. … which aren’t hard to grasp. ++++++++++++++ Let’s move on to focus on wormholes now …. … maybe it is ‘hanging in a local conglomeration of Dark Matter’?? Maybe certain particles in concentrated flows around electromagnetic fields can create ‘vacuums of Dark Matter’ around an object?? … If one ups the power considerably … maybe one gets suspension around which our physical Universe flows. … until the field dynamic or dynamo is broken … shift the direction of the ufo drive system … and you get v.rapid propulsion through the wormhole … with zero harmful radiation effects … this was theorised a real Helioviewer observation of a possible teleport/wormhole event. …. that shows energy requirements are very low indeed. (Note: gone without a flash … no radiation left behind …AND no vast amounts of sun energy utilised!) It appears I might need to explain this idea a little more clearly … Remember the German science experimenters and the American lab that discovered they could send data they calculated to be travelling much faster than the speed of light …through what appears to our eyes to be solid matter?? Radical eh?? … This I guess suggests that all matter is not really ‘solid’ … but a mesh of strong bonding that might have Dark Matter in the holes … and some of this data is travelling through the holes (wormholes if you like) … almost instantly … 4.5 times the speed of light the German lab claimed … before their experiments were shut down by the Authorities (is my guess) … and funding withdrawn. Religion/Authority doesn’t really want us to be educated enough to wormhole our way across SPACE in zero-gravity machines. … and most visiting aliens who have watched us lately …certainly don’t want Star Wars-obsessed rogue State Americans or war-mongering, genocidal Zionist nutters anywhere near their corner of their Galaxy … until these Neanderthals EVOLVE A LOT! So they will coach our scientists to calculate we will need impossible amounts of energy to drop through the Dark Matter interface … and travel huge distances in an instance … when this is not true at all. But if the rogue state is allowed to keep removing or marginalising teleport evidence from the Internet … clues/meagre scraps … proving wormhole travel is possibly … whilst alien civilisations are all around us doing it daily … all around our Solar System … and even in our airspace …. …. we will be forever ‘grounded’ in our own Solar System … if we leave these nasty ‘science censorship jockeys’ in control … riding us to destruction. ++++++++++++++ So the question is … does large areas of Dark Matter displacement cause weak gravitational force to apply to huge planets and moons …. are the Dark Matter holes in this ‘mesh’ … which also exist around molecules, around atoms and around the different particles that make up atoms … giving all those atoms a minute gravitational lift when floating in an electrical/polarised environment?? … It’s an interesting thought that possibly explains the levitation effect that might be happening at an atomic level in weather systems … and allow heavy clouds to float miraculously in a cold/warm air gravity environment. … in much the same way our almost perfectly round designer planets and moons float around in Space … levitated and orbitally manipulated EASILY to stay in stable orbits by the feather touch gravity of our Sun. To me it’s slightly odd that a history of numerous collisions of a large number of very large meteorites … which most would think might deflect us from our solar orbital course … sometime in our prolonged Evolution … hasn’t had much effect?? … maybe our wonderful Moon/and possibly ‘alien intervention’ (Tungusta/Chelyabinsk)?🤔 ….shielded our Planetary civilisations from catastrophe?? |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 14, 2024 8:01:27 GMT
Thermal updrafts can last for hours. Wings only sustain flight in a downward glide a glider cannot climb without outside assistance like a thermal updraft. Fair bit of strength to that updraft, even a light single seater can weigh hundreds of kilos. Far heavier than a hailstone. Those hailstones get bounced around in a cumulus nimbus cloud until the thermals die off and the cloud reaches full maturity and then at full saturation, with thermal activity died off, with everything cooling, precipitation happens. And the electric charge in thunderstorms comes from the clash of a warm humid air mass and a cold air mass meeting and clashing. Shhhh now, it is actually aliens with anti-gravity rayguns. All The Best |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 14, 2024 8:33:39 GMT
By what equation Dub?
Spare me the youtube and bitshit crazy links.
Just give us the raw maths of it.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 15, 2024 5:43:16 GMT
Vinny, …If you are the mathematician here?? … you do the mathematics on these theories … knock yourself out! 👍 P.S. Still waiting for your ENGLISH translation of your Hawking equation?? … Come on … what’s wrong ?? … surely you can Google it? … try Youtube … that delivers really good educational explanations to complex science … that the Membership here can understand. 👍 🤣👏 ++++++++++++++ Meanwhile … getting down to the measurement of Gravity down at the ‘particle level’ … this just popped out of the woodwork on my New Scientist feed … I’m guessing TPTB and their algorithms were just listening in on my anti-gravity cloud theory … down at the particle level?? “Scientists have made progress in understanding the forces of the universe on a microscopic level by discovering a way to measure gravity in such small scales. **The intricacies of how gravity works in the quantum world have long puzzled scientists, including Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein. In his theory of general relativity, Einstein even stated that it was impossible to conduct an experiment to show a quantum version of gravity.**. However, a team of physicists at the University of Southampton, in collaboration with scientists in Europe, have finally managed to detect a weak gravitational pull on a tiny particle using a new technique. **By using levitating magnets to detect. gravity on microscopic particles, the researchers believe that this breakthrough could help reveal the elusive quantum gravity theory.**” Here’s a pic of their latest findings: (Please, … no more complaints I don’t drop you the latest science theory🙄)  …. Is it just me? … or is it similar to the ionisation streaming around our Earth, storm cloud systems?? … and Fluxliner/UFO anti-gravity machines observed hanging about quietly in our air space?? |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 15, 2024 7:20:08 GMT
There's no science in your posts only statements of belief.
You have failed to prove anything except that you have been conned.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 16, 2024 8:34:35 GMT
There's no science in your posts only statements of belief. You have failed to prove anything except that you have been conned. So you don’t believe the University of Southampton is engaged in this work? … and the photo is from that research?? …. …. this extract above came from New Scientist. When you get some ‘research skills’ …. and stop trolling … drop us a telegram. … meanwhile … ignoring people who don’t respect “observational science” … or the work of the U. of S. Is this an example of a collective ‘anti-gravity system failure’?? If you look very carefully at this ‘burst’ … in contradiction of what the commentator says … there appears to be no real evidence of a sudden downdraft disturbing the general cloud before the ‘bomb’ drops …. so what the release mechanism is … fits in nicely with my Theory. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 16, 2024 9:41:59 GMT
Clouds precipitate after reaching saturation, it's nothing to do with anti gravity. Warm humid air currents from the ground called thermals create them.
The dry adiabatic lapse rate is 3 degrees C per thousand feet. The saturated adiabatic lapse rate is 1.5 degrees C per thousand feet and so humid air at 4000 feet will be 6 degrees C colder than at ground level but the surrounding dry air, 12 degrees colder.
Let's say a cumulus nimbus forms and extends from 5000ft up to 8,000 feet and the temperature on the ground is 12 degrees C.
7.5 degrees C colder at the base of the cumulus nimbus.
At 6,000 feet with thermals still working in the cloud, it's 9 degrees C colder than ground level.
7,000 feet 10.5 degrees C colder.
8,000 feet 12 degrees C colder.
As the day goes on, it gets colder on the ground and the thermals die off. And in the sky it gets colder too.
11 degrees C at ground level, -1 degrees C at 8,000 feet, but at 6,000 feet it's still above zero, that cumulus nimbus can still be growing.
Simple maths.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 16, 2024 11:13:42 GMT
Clouds precipitate after reaching saturation, it's nothing to do with anti gravity. Warm humid air currents from the ground called thermals create them. The dry adiabatic lapse rate is 3 degrees C per thousand feet. The saturated adiabatic lapse rate is 1.5 degrees C per thousand feet and so humid air at 4000 feet will be 6 degrees C colder than at ground level but the surrounding dry air, 12 degrees colder. Let's say a cumulus nimbus forms and extends from 5000ft up to 8,000 feet and the temperature on the ground is 12 degrees C. 7.5 degrees C colder at the base of the cumulus nimbus. At 6,000 feet with thermals still working in the cloud, it's 9 degrees C colder than ground level. 7,000 feet 10.5 degrees C colder. 8,000 feet 12 degrees C colder. As the day goes on, it gets colder on the ground and the thermals die off. And in the sky it gets colder too. 11 degrees C at ground level, -1 degrees C at 8,000 feet, but at 6,000 feet it's still above zero, that cumulus nimbus can still be growing. Simple maths. Because of 24hr day/night cycles ...geo-weathering/spraying particulate chemicals everywhere ... maybe we are getting more hot/cold air layering occuring ... generating more convection extremism? No wonder hailstones in cross section look like lasagne. As day turns to night this convection elevator ...still holds up huge weights of ice and water...even when there is minimal wind and no sun assorted-radiations driving updrafts to sustain grapefruit- sized hail aloft? Weird eh? ...It begs the question is there an anti-gravity dynamic within storm cloud ionisation layers creating weather support? +++++++++++++++ Just got sent this ... maybe a new World Record hailstone.?? www.facebook.com/share/r/XBPTTEEnEsryq1z4/Image that hitting you at 50+ mph velocity! 😖 ...Take shelter when it's hailing folks ... it's getting more dangerous out there with TPTB seeding larger droplets and helping the sun microwave-manipulate more extreme storms. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 16, 2024 12:59:50 GMT
Oh for goodness sake.
Climate change is not caused by weather spraying or parachute chemicals it's caused by deforestation, human population explosion and excessive fossil fuel use at a rate greater than the forests can reaborb.
It's a greenhouse gas.
Forget your conspiracy theories.
AND anti gravity fields are not a cause of hailstone formation.
The saturated adiabatic lapse rate is.
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