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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 14, 2024 12:18:05 GMT
I have a little story for you regarding a man called Sam Tarry. I'll condense it a bit and pick out a few poignant moments in his life as an allegory of why we didn't vote Labour, and especially Labour under Corbyn. Lets begin at the beginning and work our way in time.
Born 27 August 1982 in Westminster.
So far so good, but one wonders about UCL. It's kind of a bit of what people call a left-wing establishment.
Anyway we guess he would have graduated in about 2004
Also it turns out that after about 6 years of leaving uni he now owns a second home.
Capitalism has often been mocked for the desire to own two cars in the garage, but here socialism provides two separate houses for your two cars.
You can see by this time he had moved to the inner circles of Corbynism.
So not only is he working in the campaign but also he is working in formulating Labour's policy.
There is a whole load of other bollox about him in Wikipedia, but remember his Church of England upbringing.
Ah ha, so that's why socialists need two houses. Got it.
There is one more thing you should really hear about this man. Being a man of the cloth you wouldn't expect him to want to move half the Palestinian Muzzie terrorists into London and cause your fellow parishioners homelessness would you?
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Post by Vinny on May 14, 2024 13:13:18 GMT
They didn't endorse Brexit and they had a loony in charge.
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Post by jonksy on May 14, 2024 15:57:59 GMT
They didn't endorse Brexit and they had a loony in charge. Not only a loony but an antisemite and racist...And the wankers are no better now. |
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Post by jonksy on May 15, 2024 2:24:56 GMT
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Post by johnofgwent on May 15, 2024 5:34:02 GMT
Did Tarry mastermind the treachery that saw Labour endorse the zombification of Parliament in order to suppress the will of a clear majority of the electorate in the biggest expression of the popular vote in a hundred years ?
Because unless he was the mastermind behind Labours policy as expressed by David Lammy that the referendum had no legal authority and could safely be ignored under our unwritten constitution, he was fuck all to do with Labour's rout
So, was he that mastermind
A simple yes or no will suffice ...
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Post by sheepy on May 15, 2024 6:13:22 GMT
Did Tarry mastermind the treachery that saw Labour endorse the zombification of Parliament in order to suppress the will of a clear majority of the electorate in the biggest expression of the popular vote in a hundred years ? Because unless he was the mastermind behind Labours policy as expressed by David Lammy that the referendum had no legal authority and could safely be ignored under our unwritten constitution, he was fuck all to do with Labour's rout So, was he that mastermind A simple yes or no will suffice ... Don't own anything then they cannot take it away from you, the establishment hate cash it is still a statement of freedom and a free-flowing economy that the state cannot fully control, whereas once you have a cashless society it gives them complete and utter control over everything you buy or even sell. As many people keep saying use it or lose it, once it is fully controlled by AI you will be an extension of robotic control. Even those who think they are the masters of your destiny will be controlled by AI. They will be like everyone else one step away from a sleeping bag in the street. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 15, 2024 11:30:15 GMT
She get a BvL tick there for talking about policemen. Don't you love a Labour politician who is less woke than the Tories? I mean she is considered a badass in Labour circles now.
Those simple solutions of tax the rich are so quaint. Actually Tarry was thrown out as well for striking with the railway non-workers. Starmer aint just going to tax the rich lol. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 15, 2024 13:36:14 GMT
Sam Tarry is a pillock, and you can quote me. He's a Corbyn supporter, a left wing socialist who believes the government should fly tens of thousands of Palestinians from Gaza to Londonistan. Like I said, the mans a pillock.
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Post by ratcliff on May 15, 2024 13:39:37 GMT
I have a little story for you regarding a man called Sam Tarry. I'll condense it a bit and pick out a few poignant moments in his life as an allegory of why we didn't vote Labour, and especially Labour under Corbyn. Lets begin at the beginning and work our way in time.
Born 27 August 1982 in Westminster.
So far so good, but one wonders about UCL. It's kind of a bit of what people call a left-wing establishment.
Anyway we guess he would have graduated in about 2004
Also it turns out that after about 6 years of leaving uni he now owns a second home.
Capitalism has often been mocked for the desire to own two cars in the garage, but here socialism provides two separate houses for your two cars.
You can see by this time he had moved to the inner circles of Corbynism.
So not only is he working in the campaign but also he is working in formulating Labour's policy.
There is a whole load of other bollox about him in Wikipedia, but remember his Church of England upbringing.
Ah ha, so that's why socialists need two houses. Got it.
There is one more thing you should really hear about this man. Being a man of the cloth you wouldn't expect him to want to move half the Palestinian Muzzie terrorists into London and cause your fellow parishioners homelessness would you?
Sam Tarry was, until quite recently, the Ginger Growler's former ''soulmate'' Angela Rayner showcased her bold sense of fashion as she was snapped stepping out of her London home alongside married MP Sam Tarry last week.
Labour's deputy leader, 41, was spotted emerging from her £30,000-a-year taxpayer-funded property with shadow minister Sam, 39, in tow one morning last week.
i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/01/24/10/53300377-0-image-a-21_1643021626236.jpgwww.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/angela-rayner-sam-tarry-labour-mp-b2328741.html |
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Post by witchfinder on May 15, 2024 14:38:30 GMT
The Labour Party had wrestled with itself from the moment it was born in the days of Keir Hardie
But in modern times, Labour is always more sucessful when it steers a moderate Centre Left course, as opposed to a more orthodox Socialist course, and you only need to look at the general election results of 1983 (Michael Foot) and 2019 (Jeremy Corbyn), and compare those results to that of 1997 under Tony Blair.
The 2019 General Election was a very good result for the Conservatives because whilst the Pro-European vote was split, the Pro-Brexit vote was more or less united in favour of Boris Johnson. The fact that Jeremy Corbyn was Labour leader also frightened off a lot of voters.
We are back to where we were in 1997, the party is now firmly back under the control of the Centre Left / moderates, the Parliamentary Party is overwhelmingly Centre Left, as is the NEC.
Evidence that trust has been restored is clearly visible in Opinion Polling, and whilst the party sticks with its core principles of defending the ordinary person, it also recognises that helping business, commerce, enterprise and manufacturing has to be realisticly balanced against the interests of the worker, the employee, the ordinary working person and their family.
It is now the Conservatives who are now suffering from similar problems, we can all see the divide in the Tory Party, the in-fighting and the rats jumping ship, and I guess that IF they do suffer a humiliating defeat at the general election, there will be an almighty fight for the heart and soul of the party.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2024 15:01:47 GMT
She get a BvL tick there for talking about policemen. Don't you love a Labour politician who is less woke than the Tories? I mean she is considered a badass in Labour circles now.
Those simple solutions of tax the rich are so quaint. Actually Tarry was thrown out as well for striking with the railway non-workers. Starmer aint just going to tax the rich lol. The rich are leaving the UK for more opportunities in better countries whilst the Left insist on importing millions of third world criminal scum. They will have to raise the taxes to record levels to feed these third worlders, because the credit rating is also going to plummet which makes borrowing a non option.
We'll be seeing politicians hanging from lampposts soon.
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Post by johnofgwent on May 15, 2024 15:28:37 GMT
The Labour Party had wrestled with itself from the moment it was born in the days of Keir Hardie But in modern times, Labour is always more sucessful when it steers a moderate Centre Left course, as opposed to a more orthodox Socialist course, and you only need to look at the general election results of 1983 (Michael Foot) and 2019 (Jeremy Corbyn), and compare those results to that of 1997 under Tony Blair. The 2019 General Election was a very good result for the Conservatives because whilst the Pro-European vote was split, the Pro-Brexit vote was more or less united in favour of Boris Johnson. The fact that Jeremy Corbyn was Labour leader also frightened off a lot of voters. We are back to where we were in 1997, the party is now firmly back under the control of the Centre Left / moderates, the Parliamentary Party is overwhelmingly Centre Left, as is the NEC. Evidence that trust has been restored is clearly visible in Opinion Polling, and whilst the party sticks with its core principles of defending the ordinary person, it also recognises that helping business, commerce, enterprise and manufacturing has to be realisticly balanced against the interests of the worker, the employee, the ordinary working person and their family. It is now the Conservatives who are now suffering from similar problems, we can all see the divide in the Tory Party, the in-fighting and the rats jumping ship, and I guess that IF they do suffer a humiliating defeat at the general election, there will be an almighty fight for the heart and soul of the party. Of course, the problem with THAT is blair … lied through his teeth, accepted the ideas of a fraudster who screwed the only competent politician in the treasury and replaced him with an idiot who didn’t see the problem in opening tax evasion loopholes but only if you were gay or lesbian, destroyed the identity of the country by filling it with inclvadung immigrants and destroyed its unity by splitting it into three devolved fiefdoms and a rump But yeah, if you think this plus unswerving cap diffing to genocidal jews is a recipe for success, knock yourself out |
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Post by Pacifico on May 15, 2024 17:12:16 GMT
She get a BvL tick there for talking about policemen. Don't you love a Labour politician who is less woke than the Tories? I mean she is considered a badass in Labour circles now.
Those simple solutions of tax the rich are so quaint. Actually Tarry was thrown out as well for striking with the railway non-workers. Starmer aint just going to tax the rich lol. The rich are leaving the UK for more opportunities in better countries whilst the Left insist on importing millions of third world criminal scum. They will have to raise the taxes to record levels to feed these third worlders, because the credit rating is also going to plummet which makes borrowing a non option.
We'll be seeing politicians hanging from lampposts soon.
This is the problem that is going to get worse - those that pay the taxes are leaving in ever larger numbers and when Labour get in taxes are going to rise to pay for all their spending plans - so then more people will leave - less taxes coming in so even more tax rises - etc etc. It's not looking good. |
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Post by sheepy on May 15, 2024 17:37:02 GMT
The Labour Party had wrestled with itself from the moment it was born in the days of Keir Hardie But in modern times, Labour is always more sucessful when it steers a moderate Centre Left course, as opposed to a more orthodox Socialist course, and you only need to look at the general election results of 1983 (Michael Foot) and 2019 (Jeremy Corbyn), and compare those results to that of 1997 under Tony Blair. The 2019 General Election was a very good result for the Conservatives because whilst the Pro-European vote was split, the Pro-Brexit vote was more or less united in favour of Boris Johnson. The fact that Jeremy Corbyn was Labour leader also frightened off a lot of voters. We are back to where we were in 1997, the party is now firmly back under the control of the Centre Left / moderates, the Parliamentary Party is overwhelmingly Centre Left, as is the NEC. Evidence that trust has been restored is clearly visible in Opinion Polling, and whilst the party sticks with its core principles of defending the ordinary person, it also recognises that helping business, commerce, enterprise and manufacturing has to be realisticly balanced against the interests of the worker, the employee, the ordinary working person and their family. It is now the Conservatives who are now suffering from similar problems, we can all see the divide in the Tory Party, the in-fighting and the rats jumping ship, and I guess that IF they do suffer a humiliating defeat at the general election, there will be an almighty fight for the heart and soul of the party. Of course, the problem with THAT is blair … lied through his teeth, accepted the ideas of a fraudster who screwed the only competent politician in the treasury and replaced him with an idiot who didn’t see the problem in opening tax evasion loopholes but only if you were gay or lesbian, destroyed the identity of the country by filling it with inclvadung immigrants and destroyed its unity by splitting it into three devolved fiefdoms and a rump But yeah, if you think this plus unswerving cap diffing to genocidal jews is a recipe for success, knock yourself out The indigenous Britons will have our revenge everything is in place to make sure we do, it won't be in mine or your time but take it from me, it cannot be stopped. We won't have to hang anyone; they are doing that daily by themselves. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 15, 2024 18:13:02 GMT
The Labour Party had wrestled with itself from the moment it was born in the days of Keir Hardie But in modern times, Labour is always more sucessful when it steers a moderate Centre Left course, as opposed to a more orthodox Socialist course, and you only need to look at the general election results of 1983 (Michael Foot) and 2019 (Jeremy Corbyn), and compare those results to that of 1997 under Tony Blair. The 2019 General Election was a very good result for the Conservatives because whilst the Pro-European vote was split, the Pro-Brexit vote was more or less united in favour of Boris Johnson. The fact that Jeremy Corbyn was Labour leader also frightened off a lot of voters. We are back to where we were in 1997, the party is now firmly back under the control of the Centre Left / moderates, the Parliamentary Party is overwhelmingly Centre Left, as is the NEC. Evidence that trust has been restored is clearly visible in Opinion Polling, and whilst the party sticks with its core principles of defending the ordinary person, it also recognises that helping business, commerce, enterprise and manufacturing has to be realisticly balanced against the interests of the worker, the employee, the ordinary working person and their family. It is now the Conservatives who are now suffering from similar problems, we can all see the divide in the Tory Party, the in-fighting and the rats jumping ship, and I guess that IF they do suffer a humiliating defeat at the general election, there will be an almighty fight for the heart and soul of the party. You are of course correct, in order for the Labour party to succeed it has to move to the centre, socialist parties are very 20th century. As you pointed out, this is well documented by the fortunes of Foot, Blair and Corbyn. The problem Labour has right now is, Starmer. Yes he has moved the party away from Corbyns left wing vision of Labour, but he is not a vote winner, he is not charismatic, he is no Blair or Johnson. Yes Labour may win the election, but people wont vote for Starmer because they like him. Many people will vote for Starmer because they see him as the best worst option, and the back room boys at Labour HQ know it. One thing that Sunak has finally realised is that to have any chance at a general election he must become a centre right Conservative, and he has at long last listened to advisors who have long been advocating a move to the traditional Conservative centre right ground. Too little too late? Probably, we'll see. But the biggest problem for the Tories is mirrored for Labour. Both parties have rubbish leaders. |
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