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Post by wapentake on May 13, 2024 19:26:08 GMT
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Post by Bentley on May 13, 2024 19:41:59 GMT
They managed to squeeze a bit of racism against blacks into the news article I saw .
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Post by wapentake on May 13, 2024 20:01:04 GMT
They managed to squeeze a bit of racism against blacks into the news article I saw . Yeah saw that,I don’t know why but have a nagging doubt that Letby is who they make her out to be.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on May 23, 2024 0:55:25 GMT
There needs to be careful evaluation of the personalities of people who seek roles in medical care and treatment that involve contact with patients' genital/anal areas. Staff who display "inappropriate" responses to patients need to be immediately moved to other roles that don't expose them to situations that "disturb their sensibilities". A nurse reacted to a distressed and disturbed elderly patient on the renal ward I was on, who had severe prostatitis which was being aggravated by contact with his pyjamas and bedclothes and was repeatedly "exposing himself", by shouting at him: "We don't want to see your bits!" Nobody did anything to "curb" the nurse's behaviour. Back when I worked in a hospital the Matrons would have sorted it pronto. Nowadays patients are wary of complaining because of the responses they are likely to get. Dotted around most hospitals there are staff who simply shouldn't be in the medical profession.
I was in the next bed. When the Consultant appeared I told her what was going on ... her eyes widened with realisation as to why the poor guy was behaving the way he was.
The CQC report on the ward had a comment about "incidents" of staff "abusing patients".
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Post by Bentley on May 23, 2024 13:37:00 GMT
There needs to be careful evaluation of the personalities of people who seek roles in medical care and treatment that involve contact with patients' genital/anal areas. Staff who display "inappropriate" responses to patients need to be immediately moved to other roles that don't expose them to situations that "disturb their sensibilities". A nurse reacted to a distressed and disturbed elderly patient on the renal ward I was on, who had severe prostatitis which was being aggravated by contact with his pyjamas and bedclothes and was repeatedly "exposing himself", by shouting at him: "We don't want to see your bits!" Nobody did anything to "curb" the nurse's behaviour. Back when I worked in a hospital the Matrons would have sorted it pronto. Nowadays patients are wary of complaining because of the responses they are likely to get. Dotted around most hospitals there are staff who simply shouldn't be in the medical profession. I was in the next bed. When the Consultant appeared I told her what was going on ... her eyes widened with realisation as to why the poor guy was behaving the way he was. The CQC report on the ward had a comment about "incidents" of staff "abusing patients". We need lots more ‘ fresh off the boat’ migrants to do that job..according to our resident lefties.
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Post by wapentake on Jun 4, 2024 22:04:30 GMT
Yet another maternity unit and more deaths linktype in a search engine maternity unit problems UK and see the numbers and that’s why I distrust the Letby guilty verdict based solely on circumstantial evidence.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2024 9:52:15 GMT
Yet another maternity unit and more deaths linktype in a search engine maternity unit problems UK and see the numbers and that’s why I distrust the Letby guilty verdict based solely on circumstantial evidence. You've just got a bee in your bonnet over this case. Is it because Lucy is pretty and you can't equate that with her being an evil child killer? This was nothing to do with maternity care, it was neo-natal care, where babies expected to easily survive were snuffed out by an evil excuse for a nurse. Maternity care, however, is dire. My daughter almost died in childbirth nearly 18 months back when the doctors and nurses botched her inducement then an emergency caesarean, she nearly bled to death.
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Post by wapentake on Jun 5, 2024 12:40:48 GMT
Yet another maternity unit and more deaths linktype in a search engine maternity unit problems UK and see the numbers and that’s why I distrust the Letby guilty verdict based solely on circumstantial evidence. You've just got a bee in your bonnet over this case. Is it because Lucy is pretty and you can't equate that with her being an evil child killer? This was nothing to do with maternity care, it was neo-natal care, where babies expected to easily survive were snuffed out by an evil excuse for a nurse. Maternity care, however, is dire. My daughter almost died in childbirth nearly 18 months back when the doctors and nurses botched her inducement then an emergency caesarean, she nearly bled to death. Never considered her looks,if it was a bloke and looked like Quasimodo I’d still doubt a verdict based on circumstantial evidence
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Post by wapentake on Jun 5, 2024 13:08:08 GMT
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 9, 2024 6:23:16 GMT
Blood scandals, sub-standard maternity care, why is the NHS in its current format so sacrosanct?
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Post by wapentake on Jul 12, 2024 4:11:01 GMT
Concerns raised over safety of Letby conviction
The case against Lucy Letby has been questioned by experts as reporting restrictions on the case have been lifted.
A significant group of medical experts who were involved in this, or similar cases, as well as those involved in miscarriages of justice, have raised concerns about the safety of the conviction.
Letby has been convicted of murdering or attempting to murder 17 babies while working as a neo-natal nurse at the Countess of Chester hospital. Speaking now without facing danger of being in contempt of court, experts in the fields of medicine, pathology and statistics have questioned the safety of the conviction.
Letby is currently serving life in prison and her application to appeal the initial 14 convictions has been rejected. As her sentence was being handed down during a retrial for one of the cases last week, she shouted to the court that she was innocent.
Speaking to the Guardian, the neonatologist, Dr Mike Hall said he did not think Letby had a fair trial. He said ‘no medical expert witness was called for the defence to challenge the prosecution expert medical evidence’. He said he was deeply troubled by this, and believed the prosecution did not prove her guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
Other experts told the Guardian that the medical evidence advanced – that which was said to prove the babies were murdered by Letby by various means – was ‘implausible’.
An article published today in The Telegraph recounts in detail concerns over the deaths of many of the babies. All were variously premature, underweight, seriously ill, or facing other complications.
The aforementioned Dr Hall was instructed as a witness for the defence but was never called. He has said he was troubled by the prosecution’s ‘exaggeration’ of the health of the babies. He told the Telegraph: ‘It’s my opinion, the prosecution medical expert witnesses exaggerated the degree of wellness of those babies to a significant extent… I would have thought it would have had a significant influence on the jury.’
Concerns have also been raised about the use of statistics in Letby’s conviction. A key piece of evidence was a shift chart that purports to show that Letby was the only nurse who was on duty at the time of each of the babies’ deaths. However, she was not on duty at times when other babies, not in the realm of this case, died. The chart excludes these cases, as Letby was not investigated in relation to them either because she was not there, or there was no suspicion that she was implicated.
Between June 2015 and June 2016 there was an unusual cluster of deaths, with Letby investigated and convicted for being involved in seven of these.
A criminology professor at Birmingham City University, David Wilson, has gravely criticised this use of data. He said: ‘You don’t need a PhD in statistics or maths to know that this is dreadful. This illustrates what you can do with cherry-picked data.’
Other medical experts have come forward to question the plausibility of Letby’s murdering the babies through injecting air into their stomachs or bloodstreams, as the symptoms these babies displayed could have had other causes. The testing done to establish the fact that Letby poisoned other babies with insulin has also been questioned.
Practitioners working within the NHS have raised concerns about the staffing of the neonatal unit in Chester at that time alongside the multiple other problems facing the ward. The fact that the elevated level of deaths stopped when Letby was suspended from her role can also be explained by the fact that at the same time the ward was downgraded, meaning it was no longer permitted to care for the sickest and most at-risk babies.
Media scrutiny of the case increased with the publication of an article in the New Yorker while reporting restrictions were in place in the UK. With the lifting of these restrictions, people with doubts about the safety of the conviction may continue to come forward.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 14:58:16 GMT
Lucy Letby obviously has someone lobbying for her. She's been found guilty at two separate trials now. The juries saw all the evidence, including psychopathic notes she wrote to herself implying her guilt.
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Post by wapentake on Jul 21, 2024 6:38:02 GMT
David Davis to bring up concerns in the HoC it seems that there’s more than me concerned that the evidence is flawed and conviction based on circumstantial evidence that even one expert whose research was used though he was never called as a witness casts doubt on. link
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2024 9:10:51 GMT
They'll need to speak to the 24 jury members, who were convinced twice that she is an evil murdering excuse for a woman.
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Post by wapentake on Jul 21, 2024 9:21:00 GMT
They'll need to speak to the 24 jury members, who were convinced twice that she is an evil murdering excuse for a woman. Not quite Below is the full list of counts that Letby faced in court - and the verdicts. 1. Murder of Baby A - GUILTY 2. Attempted murder of Baby B - GUILTY 3. Murder of Baby C - GUILTY 4. Murder of Baby D - GUILTY 5. Murder of Baby E - GUILTY 6. Attempted murder of Baby F - GUILTY 7. Attempted murder of Baby G - GUILTY 8. Attempted murder of Baby G - GUILTY 9. Alleged attempted murder of Baby G - NOT GUILTY 10. Alleged attempted murder of Baby H - NOT GUILTY 11. Alleged attempted murder of Baby H - NO VERDICT 12. Murder of Baby I - GUILTY 13. Alleged attempted murder of Baby J - NO VERDICT 14. Alleged attempted murder of Baby K - NO VERDICT 15. Attempted murder of Baby L - GUILTY 16. Attempted murder of Baby M - GUILTY 17. Attempted murder of Baby N - GUILTY 18. Alleged attempted murder of Baby N - NO VERDICT 19. Alleged attempted murder of Baby N - NO VERDICT 20. Murder of Baby O - GUILTY 21. Murder of Baby P - GUILTY 22. Alleged attempted murder of Baby Q - NO VERDICT
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