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Post by Pacifico on May 15, 2024 21:27:15 GMT
So why would you fly it at a function where neither of those organisations was represented? |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 15, 2024 21:30:23 GMT
Thank you. So we agree, it is the EU flag. |
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Post by witchfinder on May 16, 2024 10:14:15 GMT
The clue is in the names
The EURO Vision song contest organised by The EUROPEAN Broadcasting Union
There is only one flag which represents the whole of Europe and it is an official flag, and it is the same flag as adopted by the European Union.
I go back to my original opinion - that it seems absurd that an event organised by European broadcasters, originaly called "A Song For Europe" should ban the European flag.
If people cannot understand the reasoning, its not my fault that they cannot connect "European Flag" with "The Eurovision Song Contest" and "The European Broadcasting Union".
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Post by buccaneer on May 16, 2024 12:35:04 GMT
The clue is in the names The EURO Vision song contest organised by The EUROPEAN Broadcasting Union There is only one flag which represents the whole of Europe and it is an official flag, and it is the same flag as adopted by the European Union. I go back to my original opinion - that it seems absurd that an event organised by European broadcasters, originaly called "A Song For Europe" should ban the European flag. If people cannot understand the reasoning, its not my fault that they cannot connect "European Flag" with "The Eurovision Song Contest" and "The European Broadcasting Union". Which contestant represents this flag? Next, you'll been demanding the EU flag being flown at the Euros, in football stadia. The problem is, it has no sovereign home to attach itself to. |
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Post by Paulus de B on May 16, 2024 13:13:04 GMT
I believe the Council of Europe has since modified its own flag to include a lower-case "e", though they used the starry sphincter until recently. They can hardly claim to have invented it though. 12 yellow stars on a blue background has long been a symbol of the Catholic heresy of Mariolatry: www.amazon.com/Immaculate-Conception-Blessed-painting-Catholic/dp/B01N1WV48C__________________________________________________ I'm glad the EBU have decided to ban it, and I wish the BBC would do the same. The Last Night of the Proms has long been a celebration of patriotism in general and British patriotism in particular. It's heartening to see the flags of many nations being waved there - proof that patriots of many countries can celebrate in harmony. The recent phenomenon of waving the starry sphincter - a political symbol and nothing more - detracts from that celebration. |
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Post by Vinny on May 17, 2024 9:08:27 GMT
The EU Flag is NOT a flag which was designed to represent the European Union The EU flag was adopted by the European Union from the Council Of Europe, and the flag represents EVERY nation of Europe excluding Belarus and Russia, including non-EU nations. To be a member of the European Broadcasting Union, a media organisation must be (A) a public broadcaster, and (B) from a country which is a member of the Council Of Europe. It seems absurd for an organisation which insists that EBU members must be from within the Council Of Europe, but then bans the flag of the Council Of Europe. The flag of the EU and Council Of Europe is frequently used as a symbol by millions in places such as Ukraine, Georgia, Belarus and other places in the fight against oppression, dictatorship and authoritarianism. Russia used to be a member of the Council of Europe before it was expelled for being an aggressive dictatorship. But yes, what you say is true. It's the flag of Europe, not the EU. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 17, 2024 10:47:42 GMT
Jeez, I never imagined something so simple could be so complicated. LOL, in their own words, the "Council of Europe" and the "EU" say the EU flag represents the whole of Europe. No kidding. The EU flag does not represent any country. An unelected cabal of bureaucrats have decreed it represents an enforced political union of which the UK is not a member. This flag, the most recognised flag in the world, represents the UK.  |
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Post by Vinny on May 17, 2024 11:54:10 GMT
The flag of Europe was nicked by the EU.
It was originally the flag of the Council of Europe, a non sovereign human rights organisation.
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Post by patman post on May 17, 2024 13:55:08 GMT
The EU Flag is NOT a flag which was designed to represent the European Union The EU flag was adopted by the European Union from the Council Of Europe, and the flag represents EVERY nation of Europe excluding Belarus and Russia, including non-EU nations. To be a member of the European Broadcasting Union, a media organisation must be (A) a public broadcaster, and (B) from a country which is a member of the Council Of Europe. It seems absurd for an organisation which insists that EBU members must be from within the Council Of Europe, but then bans the flag of the Council Of Europe. The flag of the EU and Council Of Europe is frequently used as a symbol by millions in places such as Ukraine, Georgia, Belarus and other places in the fight against oppression, dictatorship and authoritarianism. LOLS don't talk bloody rubbish. Of course the 'EU' flag represents the EU. It most certainly does not represent non EU countries, what an absurd thing to say. True. But the flag was originally designed and adopted in 1955 by the Council of Europe (CoE) as a symbol for the whole of Europe. The flag has only been a symbol of the EU since 1985.
"The European flag has since become synonymous with a shared political project which unites all Europeans, transcending their diversity."
"Any natural or legal person (‘user') may use the European emblem or any of its elements, subject to the following conditions of use.
Conditions of use
The use of the European emblem and/or any of its elements is allowed, irrespective of whether the use is of a non-profit or commercial nature — EBU membership or association would therefore appear to apply...
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2024 14:43:42 GMT
I believe the Council of Europe has since modified its own flag to include a lower-case "e", though they used the starry sphincter until recently. They can hardly claim to have invented it though. 12 yellow stars on a blue background has long been a symbol of the Catholic heresy of Mariolatry: www.amazon.com/Immaculate-Conception-Blessed-painting-Catholic/dp/B01N1WV48C__________________________________________________ I'm glad the EBU have decided to ban it, and I wish the BBC would do the same. The Last Night of the Proms has long been a celebration of patriotism in general and British patriotism in particular. It's heartening to see the flags of many nations being waved there - proof that patriots of many countries can celebrate in harmony. The recent phenomenon of waving the starry sphincter - a political symbol and nothing more - detracts from that celebration. I agree with your post completely. It also explains the hostilty toward England within politics over the last few decades or so. |
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Post by buccaneer on May 17, 2024 22:45:31 GMT
I believe the Council of Europe has since modified its own flag to include a lower-case "e", though they used the starry sphincter until recently. They can hardly claim to have invented it though. 12 yellow stars on a blue background has long been a symbol of the Catholic heresy of Mariolatry: www.amazon.com/Immaculate-Conception-Blessed-painting-Catholic/dp/B01N1WV48C__________________________________________________ I'm glad the EBU have decided to ban it, and I wish the BBC would do the same. The Last Night of the Proms has long been a celebration of patriotism in general and British patriotism in particular. It's heartening to see the flags of many nations being waved there - proof that patriots of many countries can celebrate in harmony. The recent phenomenon of waving the starry sphincter - a political symbol and nothing more - detracts from that celebration. I agree with your post completely. It also explains the hostilty toward England within politics over the last few decades or so. Yes, plenty of people in the UK have given their allegiance to that flag and everything it stands for over their own nation's - see the Brexit debate in the lead up to the referendum to demonstrate this. It has been used as a political symbol to divide people. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 21, 2024 7:31:15 GMT
Maybe having a ring of Stars of David on a blue background wasn’t enough for the EBU ??
…. They seem to prefer symbolism that’s more … er … in your face! …
… has anyone else noticed the similarity between the Satanic Cross and the Star of David?? … Coincidence??
…. I wonder if they are in bed together??🤔
🤣 …. It certainly seems like it … with the current state of the World today … those who worship the Zionist contingent of this tribe. … (and Al Qaida zealots too)
…. Btw … I loved the artistic work, presentation and adventurous song Bambi Thug did on the night … but should the EBU be a platform for questionable degeneracy, debauchery and adult sex practices … before the 9 o’clock threshold??
Check out the UK entry for more on that … and the CH winner … a man in a pink latex dress gyrating on a podium. Very funny and embarrassing.
Eurovision … an unmissable ‘freakshow’ … dressed up as a ‘song contest’ … cult viewing! 👏👍🫣
🤡 It’s the EBU Leftist 🤡Clown World on display … that makes most Saturday Night comedy programming appear lite-weight in comparison.
We adults don’t mind debauchery in a private space … but rammed in people’s faces?? … during a song contest?? … that shouldn’t be ‘political’??
…. maybe the EBU has ‘lost the plot’ on what might offend most narrow-minded families in most Countries?? … The EU flag wasn’t the most offensive thing on display that night
…. the Israeli Flag and Israeli participation was SUPER offensive in my book.
Dancing on the dead of 30,000 Palestinians … in celebration … Gross!☠️
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 21, 2024 8:12:35 GMT
I think we can see here the REAL reason the EBU banned the Dutch entry …
Note the EU flags and the tell-tale ‘stars’ hiding all over this stage performance.
… some influential people in the EBU are aware of the changing tide of intense hatred towards Brussels … some are conflicted over the damage the EU has done to National identity of indigenous Europe … from it’s forced broken border policies.
… this performance was flouting their ban on EU flags … a slap in the face against a ban imposed in 2023.
…. and was purely a propaganda piece promoting Broken Borders/No Borders … mass invasion. Check out the ending for more on that.🤔
EU Propagandists trying to hijack a Nationalist celebration …. Clearly a conflict of interest.
So the Dutch entry was given the BOOT … and rightly so …. It was a nasty self indulgent piece of propaganda sh*te … that the EU deliberately funded … and tried to creep in thru the ‘backdoor’.
Backdoor is what the EU is all about …. and before you know what’s happened … YOU’VE BEEN SHAFTED!
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Don’t say you weren’t warned.👹
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Post by Vinny on Jun 21, 2024 9:20:06 GMT
LOLS don't talk bloody rubbish. Of course the 'EU' flag represents the EU. It most certainly does not represent non EU countries, what an absurd thing to say. True. But the flag was originally designed and adopted in 1955 by the Council of Europe (CoE) as a symbol for the whole of Europe. The flag has only been a symbol of the EU since 1985.
"The European flag has since become synonymous with a shared political project which unites all Europeans, transcending their diversity."
"Any natural or legal person (‘user') may use the European emblem or any of its elements, subject to the following conditions of use.
Conditions of use
The use of the European emblem and/or any of its elements is allowed, irrespective of whether the use is of a non-profit or commercial nature — EBU membership or association would therefore appear to apply...
The EEC since 1985, the EU since 1993..... |
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Post by patman post on Jun 21, 2024 13:18:43 GMT
True. But the flag was originally designed and adopted in 1955 by the Council of Europe (CoE) as a symbol for the whole of Europe. The flag has only been a symbol of the EU since 1985.
"The European flag has since become synonymous with a shared political project which unites all Europeans, transcending their diversity."
"Any natural or legal person (‘user') may use the European emblem or any of its elements, subject to the following conditions of use.
Conditions of use
The use of the European emblem and/or any of its elements is allowed, irrespective of whether the use is of a non-profit or commercial nature — EBU membership or association would therefore appear to apply...
The EEC since 1985, the EU since 1993..... Isn't it easier just to refer to the organisation as the EU as it now incorporates other bodies, including the former EC and EEC...?
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