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Post by patman post on May 11, 2024 14:03:21 GMT
The following may well be a slip up and an untypical incident:
A Green Party candidate who shared anti-Semitic material relating to the Gaza conflict on social media has apologised, the party has said.
The party was contacted by the government's anti-Semitism adviser, Lord Mann, over posts by Bristol candidates Mohamed Makawi and Abdul Malik from October 2023.
One of the posts showed part of a Hamas press conference, while the other made false claims about the killing of Israeli citizens.
The Green Party said Mr Makawi had has since apologised and undertaken social media training, while Mr Malik was "unwittingly" implicated by being tagged in the post.
Are Greens lapsing into populist antisemitism, or are they the target of smears...?
Whatever is happening within/to the Greens, it seems it's happening in Australia too...:
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 11, 2024 15:20:49 GMT
when something is not the opposite opposite of itself:
Screw the Arabs cos they don't count any longer eh?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2024 17:56:17 GMT
The problem for Mohammedans is that their religion, has anti-Jewish verses.
Meanwhile in the Hamas charter:
Seems to be a bit of a theme here.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 13, 2024 21:48:16 GMT
The Greens are as mad as a box of frogs, they're even madder than the LidDems. They're an extreme left wing fringe group who are taken seriously by very few sensible people. I make no apologies for being dismissive, the Greens are irrelevant.
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Post by patman post on May 14, 2024 11:55:50 GMT
UK Greens appear to be attracting the anti capitalist fringe that used to be housed by the far Left of the Labour Party. This initially raises membership and votes and, perhaps, councillors and MPs and members in the devolved administration — as happened to the LibDems. But, like the LibDems, when “serious” issues like the economy and cost of living matter in a general election, the electorate tend to choose between the two main parties…
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2024 13:50:38 GMT
Don't they hide behind environmentalism, giving a face of lovely kind humanist people, whilst engaging in protests aimed at Israel and the Jews?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 17:32:58 GMT
There is an obvious false conflation that keeps being pushed - including in this thread - of support for an oppressed people and criticism of the state oppressing them with antisemitism, just because the oppressing state just happens to have a majority Jewish population.
Another false conflation often in evidence is support for an oppressed people being conflated with the support of extremist terrorist murderers amongst them.
Sensible people resist this. Criticism of a state run by a far right government for decades of oppression of another people does not equate to hatred of all Jews or of antisemitism at all. It is usually the supporters of Israeli oppression - often fuelled by some shit in the bible - that want to push this false conflation.
Likewise support for the oppressed Palestinian people does not equate with support for Hamas and its terrorism.
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Post by bancroft on May 26, 2024 20:04:26 GMT
The Greens are as mad as a box of frogs, they're even madder than the LidDems. They're an extreme left wing fringe group who are taken seriously by very few sensible people. I make no apologies for being dismissive, the Greens are irrelevant. They are like Luddites in a way though they would not see that and another analogy is like religious zealots the religion of green utopia. They like electric cars yet the batteries last nowhere long enough as combustion engines meaning they are debatedly worse for the environment. |
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Post by patman post on May 27, 2024 12:46:07 GMT
The Greens are as mad as a box of frogs, they're even madder than the LidDems. They're an extreme left wing fringe group who are taken seriously by very few sensible people. I make no apologies for being dismissive, the Greens are irrelevant. They are like Luddites in a way though they would not see that and another analogy is like religious zealots the religion of green utopia. They like electric cars yet the batteries last nowhere long enough as combustion engines meaning they are debatedly worse for the environment. Batteries are components, just like brake pads, tyres, wiper blades, air and oil filters, etc.
The electric motor having fewer moving parts is likely to be longer lasting than polluting ICE's... |
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Post by bancroft on May 27, 2024 12:50:29 GMT
They are like Luddites in a way though they would not see that and another analogy is like religious zealots the religion of green utopia. They like electric cars yet the batteries last nowhere long enough as combustion engines meaning they are debatedly worse for the environment. Batteries are components, just like brake pads, tyres, wiper blades, air and oil filters, etc.
The electric motor having fewer moving parts is likely to be longer lasting than polluting ICE's... I have heard that the cost of new replacement batteries is huge, also as EVs are heavier there is more wear in the brakes and I guess tires though as you say somethings would remain the same. |
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Post by patman post on May 27, 2024 13:49:38 GMT
Batteries are components, just like brake pads, tyres, wiper blades, air and oil filters, etc.
The electric motor having fewer moving parts is likely to be longer lasting than polluting ICE's... I have heard that the cost of new replacement batteries is huge, also as EVs are heavier there is more wear in the brakes and I guess tires though as you say somethings would remain the same. The usual warranty period for and EV battery is from 8 to 10 years.
Replacement costs are rule-of-thumb £109.25 per kWh in 2024 — it was £613 per kWh in 2013. If my reckoning is correct, that's about an 80% reduction in a decade. That may not be fully replicated over the next decade, but new technologies such as solid state and graphene-based could bring additional cost reductions.
Battery prices correct as of January 2024, sourced manufacturer’s website, range from Kia Soul EV at £4,282.6, to Polestar 3 at £12,126.75.
I am an EV fan and user but, admittedly, not an owner, so I don't pick up the costs...
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