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Post by thomas on May 6, 2024 19:44:42 GMT
 Down from 87% support for Wales in uk in 1999 , to just 55 % today. |
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Post by johnofgwent on May 8, 2024 10:28:01 GMT
Not sure exactly where that comes from but yougov’s latest shows 24% of those questioned outside of the anglesey sheep shaggers would vote to split whereas 52% would not, 6% could not bexarsed, 14% had no idea and 3% told the guy to fuck off
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Post by Vinny on May 8, 2024 17:51:28 GMT
LOL the racist anti English cultist separatist scrapes another barrel.
Abolish devolution.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2024 8:18:54 GMT
The phony plastic nationalist movements were directed centrally within the EU. It was exposed by the English lot who ended up forming the EDP that suggested devolution for England under a federalist scheme. There's a reason there was never an Scot indy vote under Labour whilst one was given by a Unionist Tory with a Scottish name.  |
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Post by buccaneer on May 9, 2024 21:04:49 GMT
Wasn't surprised by the author of the thread.
Maybe he'll have more chance in getting Wales out of the Union, than the repeated failures of pulling Scotland out.
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Post by thomas on May 10, 2024 8:02:42 GMT
Not sure exactly where that comes from but yougov’s latest shows 24% of those questioned outside of the anglesey sheep shaggers would vote to split whereas 52% would not, 6% could not bexarsed, 14% had no idea and 3% told the guy to fuck off Whats your point John? in the graph, its saying 55% would not vote to split , so this poll Is similar within MOE to what you are talking about. The point in the above graph is to show the drop in support for the uk in Wales , which is following similar patterns in both scotland and norn ireland , where in Wales its dropped from around 87 % to 55% . Source:
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Post by thomas on May 10, 2024 8:06:15 GMT
Wasn't surprised by the author of the thread. Maybe he'll have more chance in getting Wales out of the Union, than the repeated failures of pulling Scotland out. once we are out though , we will stay out unlike you who is about to get taken back into the EU kicking and screaming by starmer. He won't tell you though , just convince you it's BRINO or close ties to the EU. what repeated failures? talk about exaggeration. We had one vote in three centuries. You had two votes on Europe in forty years , lost one , won one , and still fucked up the one you won. We are gearing up to sing no surrender to the EU at the scotland van zones in Germany this summer. |
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Post by Dogburger on May 10, 2024 8:53:49 GMT
Down from 87% support for Wales in uk in 1999 , to just 55 % today. Pretty much follows the polls as I remember them for English independence from the UK . We are becoming more nationalistic I think due to high levels of immigration and the feeling that we need to cling to our roots and protect our societies from outside influence . Its all very well having independence and I wouldn't deny that to anyone if it were their choice but knowing what to do with it is another matter . There has to be reasoning with the answer ,its not yes or no , in or out but why? |
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Post by johnofgwent on May 10, 2024 8:55:14 GMT
Not sure exactly where that comes from but yougov’s latest shows 24% of those questioned outside of the anglesey sheep shaggers would vote to split whereas 52% would not, 6% could not bexarsed, 14% had no idea and 3% told the guy to fuck off Whats your point John? in the graph, its saying 55% would not vote to split , so this poll Is similar within MOE to what you are talking about. The point in the above graph is to show the drop in support for the uk in Wales , which is following similar patterns in both scotland and norn ireland , where in Wales its dropped from around 87 % to 55% . Source:
Economic and Social Research Council and Cardiff Uni Comms via
@walesgovernanceWell a couple of things really First of all i was confused by the title and words versus the graph but that may be down to typo’s etc What i took from your graph (which i wasn’t sure i understood the origin of) was that lots more people questioned said they did not know what they wanted, whereas those wanting independence had gone up and those wanting union had dropped But those figures are quite deliberately blurred by the use of two quite separate questions, one asking if you wanted welsh independence for its own sake, whilst the second camouflaged misgivings over giving the nationalist scum their head by asking if you would give them their wet dream as a mechanism to crawl back into Europe. Right now the slimy corrupt zambian heading up the shitshower in Cardiff Bay is doung a magnificent job of showing what independence would mean, to the pount that plaid are running awsy from him like the greens did with the ayatollah. I would agree that the polling questions are becoming more obfuscated in order to present a falsehood that in no way represents the seething anger bubbling under the surface at the twats in tbe bay but that’s about it |
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Post by buccaneer on May 10, 2024 9:31:56 GMT
Wasn't surprised by the author of the thread. Maybe he'll have more chance in getting Wales out of the Union, than the repeated failures of pulling Scotland out. once we are out though , we will stay out unlike you who is about to get taken back into the EU kicking and screaming by starmer. He won't tell you though , just convince you it's BRINO or close ties to the EU. what repeated failures? talk about exaggeration. We had one vote in three centuries. You had two votes on Europe in forty years , lost one , won one , and still fucked up the one you won. We are gearing up to sing no surrender to the EU at the scotland van zones in Germany this summer. You are part of one of the worst independent movements seen in modern times. Instead of trying to piggyback onto Irish and Welsh grievances as a way to vindicate your own nationalist and bigoted views, do yourself a favour and try and stand on your own two feet. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2024 10:32:04 GMT
once we are out though , we will stay out unlike you who is about to get taken back into the EU kicking and screaming by starmer. He won't tell you though , just convince you it's BRINO or close ties to the EU. what repeated failures? talk about exaggeration. We had one vote in three centuries. You had two votes on Europe in forty years , lost one , won one , and still fucked up the one you won. We are gearing up to sing no surrender to the EU at the scotland van zones in Germany this summer. You are part of one of the worst independent movements seen in modern times. Instead of trying to piggyback onto Irish and Welsh grievances as a way to vindicate your own nationalist and bigoted views, do yourself a favour and try and stand on your own two feet. His argument makes no sense. England has never had a vote on the UK. It was something that was imposed by the ruling classes of that time. Scotland has had more say on the future of the UK than anyone else. The UK voted to join the EEC based on propaganda that it was merely an economic community. The UK voted to leave the EU because they never voted for the EU, since it was imposed by the ruling class in Europe who morphed it into something else. The UK includes Scotland, yet he tries to convince himself that it doesn't. Scotland has it better than everyone else in the UK, yet he keeps playing the victim. It's so pathetic that I can understand why you would consider it the worst movement ever if we are to accept that they're even genuine about their intentions. After all, it was a Scotsman who was trying to erase England through omission. |
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