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Post by witchfinder on May 4, 2024 19:20:26 GMT
This is the one result which could be enough to push Tory MPs to force a new leadership conest
Of course the answer to the thread title is NO, Andy Street has lost, he's lost despite an unknown independent taking thousands of votes from Labour supporters on the issue of Gaza.
The West Midlands in THE Bellwether region of England, whoever wins here, wins the general election
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Post by patman post on May 4, 2024 19:26:11 GMT
If the election wasn’t first past the post and had transferable votes, I reckon it’s likely Labour would have done even better in areas where the party’s stance on Gaza is thought to have cost Labour support…
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Post by witchfinder on May 4, 2024 19:34:54 GMT
If the election wasn’t first past the post and had transferable votes, I reckon it’s likely Labour would have done even better in areas where the anti-Gaza vote is thought to have cost Labour support… In one voting region alone, Birmingham, and there are 7 which make up the West Midlands, the independent Akhmed Yakoob took over 40,000 votes, mostly from Labour. Without the Gaza protest vote, Labour would have clearly walked it |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 4, 2024 20:33:31 GMT
In answer to the question...
...No.
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Post by Pacifico on May 4, 2024 21:19:03 GMT
If the election wasn’t first past the post and had transferable votes, I reckon it’s likely Labour would have done even better in areas where the anti-Gaza vote is thought to have cost Labour support… In one voting region alone, Birmingham, and there are 7 which make up the West Midlands, the independent Akhmed Yakoob took over 40,000 votes, mostly from Labour. Without the Gaza protest vote, Labour would have clearly walked itThats like saying that without the Tory failures on immigration the Tories would have walked it - you fight an election on the facts at the time, not facts that you would have liked instead. |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 4, 2024 21:50:56 GMT
In answer to the question... ...No. I actually feel a bit sorry for him. He's done a decent job here in the West Mids, but anti Tory sentiment has driven him out. Ironically the swing against him was smaller than that against Ben Houchen, who managed to hold on. He looked absolutely devastated in his interview on Sky News tonight. I hope that he stays on within the Tory Party as a sane voice in an insane club. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 4, 2024 22:01:16 GMT
In answer to the question... ...No. I actually feel a bit sorry for him. He's done a decent job here in the West Mids, but anti Tory sentiment has driven him out. Ironically the swing against him was smaller than that against Ben Houchen, who managed to hold on. He looked absolutely devastated in his interview on Sky News tonight. I hope that he stays on within the Tory Party as a sane voice in an insane club. I'm not far away but I know nothing about him. Personally I would do away with metro mayors, and police and crime commissioners. They just add more levels of bureaucracy, and cost a fortune. |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 4, 2024 22:09:40 GMT
I actually feel a bit sorry for him. He's done a decent job here in the West Mids, but anti Tory sentiment has driven him out. Ironically the swing against him was smaller than that against Ben Houchen, who managed to hold on. He looked absolutely devastated in his interview on Sky News tonight. I hope that he stays on within the Tory Party as a sane voice in an insane club. I'm not far away but I know nothing about him. Personally I would do away with metro mayors, and police and crime commissioners. They just add more levels of bureaucracy, and cost a fortune. I'd do away with the Police and Crime Commissioners, in fact that was exactly the reason I spoilt my ballot in that one. I see the roles of the metro mayors as quite important in terms of overall strategy for regions. Andy Street was a big ambassador for business, and I think that his record there was reasonable. He also stood up to Rishi when he abandoned HS2, and has been working with Andy Burnham in Manchester on alternatives. I'd like Richard Parker to look at transport, with a more integrated and working system - for a start I'd love for more trains on the Sunny Nunny to Leamington line, one an hour is impractical for commuting. Andy Street did well to get the line open, but the lack of trains is a real issue. |
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