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Post by Red Rackham on May 3, 2024 3:17:50 GMT
Obviously not a great night for the Tories, who knew. Of course there's a long way to go yet, apparently it will be three days before all results are declared.
Just saw a telling statistic, turnout for the Blackpool by-election was 32%, down from 58% in 2019. Is that an indication that people are staying at home?
...Tories retain Fareham. Labour fail to gain overall control in Peterborough, but overall Labour as expected are doing well. Early days.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 3, 2024 3:56:29 GMT
Labour win the Blackpool south by-election. But I had to laugh when newly elected Labour MP Chris Webb stood at the podium and announced 'the people of Blackpool have spoken'! Well I'm afraid no, they didn't. From a population of 83,000 just 10,800 voted Labour. So yes that's democracy, it was a Labour win. But the people certainly didn't speak. The people were largely silent.
Starmer has just announced that the Blackpool south by-election result is a 'seismic win for Labour'. Well no, it isn't. It's certainly a win, but a seismic win? Well OK I suppose Starmer is bound to milk it.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2024 5:12:39 GMT
I doubt it matters or will make a blind bit of difference. It's all going to get worse under these corrupt establishment representatives. It's doubtful many people even bothered with it.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 3, 2024 9:20:09 GMT
I doubt it matters or will make a blind bit of difference. It's all going to get worse under these corrupt establishment representatives. It's doubtful many people even bothered with it. I agree, it's difficult to get people to vote at general elections let alone locals. But as we all know, as far as these locals are concerned it was never a case of who will be the winners, it was always a case of how many councils/councilors will the Tories lose. The 'experts' reckon if Tory losses are 400+ council seats then Sunak will be ousted and it could mean a caretaker prime minister could hold off the general election until January in the hope Tory electoral fortunes improve. I believe the Tories have lost 122 council seats at the moment, but there's a long way to go yet. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2024 10:22:35 GMT
It's quite cheering to know that 67.5% of people are voting for "none of the above" and abstaining. Are they mostly sick of politicians?
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Post by Red Rackham on May 3, 2024 10:31:42 GMT
It's quite cheering to know that 67.5% of people are voting for "none of the above" and abstaining. Are they mostly sick of politicians? I think people are sick of low quality MP's, from both sides of the house, who do not represent their constituents. As someone I'm listening to has just said; Labour aren't winning these local elections because they're the best. They're winning because they're the best of the worst which inevitably means voter apathy will be the winner. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 3, 2024 10:48:02 GMT
I made the effort to go and vote yesterday - I voted for 'none of the above'
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Post by ProVeritas on May 3, 2024 21:07:54 GMT
It is IMO almost as big a catastrophe for Labour as it is the Tories.
The Tories lost -436, but Labour only picked up +169, with both the LD and Independents taking huge chunks out of Labour's potential gains.
All The Best
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 4, 2024 9:08:56 GMT
It will be a catastrophe for democracy if Labour gain a huge majority from a tiny share of the vote.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 4, 2024 16:10:41 GMT
So far Labour have gained 184 council seats. The Tories have lost 472. Prior to these elections political commentators were predicting that losses of more than 400 would seal Sunak's fate. They said if losses were 400+ the brown envelopes would quickly be handed to Sir Graham Brady.
We'll see.
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Post by ProVeritas on May 4, 2024 20:04:11 GMT
It will be a catastrophe for democracy if Labour gain a huge majority from a tiny share of the vote. You mean like the Tories in 2019, getting a 55 Seat Majority with barely 40% of the vote? Or is it OK when Tories do it? All The Best |
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Post by Pacifico on May 5, 2024 7:08:41 GMT
It will be interesting to see how Sir Graham Brady and his acolytes on the 1922 Committee will spin the installing of Rishi Sunak (wisely rejected by the Party Membership) and the resulting devastation of the Conservative Party.
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Post by ProVeritas on May 5, 2024 8:54:12 GMT
It will be interesting to see how Sir Graham Brady and his acolytes on the 1922 Committee will spin the installing of Rishi Sunak (wisely rejected by the Party Membership) and the resulting devastation of the Conservative Party. Sunak was not really "installed" as PM. There was a Leadership Competition as per normal procedure, but no one chose to stand against Sunak. All The Best |
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Post by Pacifico on May 5, 2024 10:47:56 GMT
It will be interesting to see how Sir Graham Brady and his acolytes on the 1922 Committee will spin the installing of Rishi Sunak (wisely rejected by the Party Membership) and the resulting devastation of the Conservative Party. Sunak was not really "installed" as PM. There was a Leadership Competition as per normal procedure, but no one chose to stand against Sunak. All The Best Totally unelected - when he did stand for election he lost. |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 5, 2024 11:03:34 GMT
Sunak was not really "installed" as PM. There was a Leadership Competition as per normal procedure, but no one chose to stand against Sunak. All The Best Totally unelected - when he did stand for election he lost. Maybe. But "installed" kind of implies "did not follow procedure" and the Troy Party did follow procedure. All The Bes |
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