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Post by Totheleft on Apr 30, 2024 3:47:11 GMT
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Post by johnofgwent on May 2, 2024 8:26:09 GMT
One of the interesting facts about previous actual elections in the recent past is the degree to which pollsters have been told whatever bollox gets them off the doorstep and / or the money in the PayPal account leading to marked disparity between polls and actuality
So you may be rightor you may not be
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Post by witchfinder on May 2, 2024 9:32:50 GMT
Yes its going to be bad for the Tories, but how bad do we think ?
I live in the same new combined authority as Rishi Sunak ( York & North Yorkshire ), and there is even a suggestion that the new Metro Mayor here could go to Labour, which would be a result of historical proportions, bearing in mind how much of a stronghold North Yorkshire has always been for the Conservatives.
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Post by piglet on May 2, 2024 9:40:43 GMT
With Labour coming in, things are going to get far worse before they get better, its just how bad things will get. Crisis theory in family therapy suggests that real change can come about, but only when things totally collapse.
Britain is a family. Sunak is intrinsically a nice man, but how does a nice man, and an untold number of others on the left and right, amazingly, lose touch with common sense and reality. Like question time, they were discussing illegal immigration, that it is good, and the housing crisis, on the same programme.
How have we found ourselves on the brink?
The pressures to think wrongly are always there, but people listen to it, then act on it, like Sunak. The difference is not intellectual, like the question time programme, yet people will think all immigration is good, while the country cannot cope in all ways.
I dont know what the answer is, apart from im afraid a religious one, that earth is a realm of hell. All is struggle. Water, if it can find a way, will seep out. Evil, if it can will dominate, and it will never stop.
Life indeed, born into chaos, not knowing why or where its going, only a few know the way forward, and they never lead, hence war, starvation, disease, etc. Britain is not far behind, dont think it cant happen.
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Post by jonksy on May 2, 2024 9:47:16 GMT
Funny how you steer well clear of the thread on labours breaches of electoral law. Isn't it lefty old bean? LOL |
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Post by witchfinder on May 2, 2024 9:59:47 GMT
Funny how you steer well clear of the thread on labours breaches of electoral law. Isn't it lefty old bean? LOL Just read this nonsense, its not a breach of electoral law, at worst it COULD BE missleading information, something which every political party indulges in at times. The local Labour Party apparently say it was the government who witheld funding, but the local Tories say it was the local council, so if it was the local council then WHY did the local council not fund the project ? Who has ever heard of local councils funding NHS capital building programmes ?, is it not the case that either the NHS or GP group practices build new surgeries. Theres a lot more to this story that we dont know about, and its utter desparation on the part of the soon to be redundant Tories. |
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Post by piglet on May 2, 2024 10:01:51 GMT
I did read it, it proves the above. Right and wrong is irrelevant.
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Post by jonksy on May 2, 2024 10:09:34 GMT
Funny how you steer well clear of the thread on labours breaches of electoral law. Isn't it lefty old bean? LOL Just read this nonsense, its not a breach of electoral law, at worst it COULD BE missleading information, something which every political party indulges in at times. The local Labour Party apparently say it was the government who witheld funding, but the local Tories say it was the local council, so if it was the local council then WHY did the local council not fund the project ? Who has ever heard of local councils funding NHS capital building programmes ?, is it not the case that either the NHS or GP group practices build new surgeries. Theres a lot more to this story that we dont know about, and its utter desparation on the part of the soon to be redundant Tories. Well it doesn't stop you posting pro labour bullshit does it fiddles? We all know what the labour tribe will do if elected it will be same as we have now only 20 times worse.. |
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Post by johnofgwent on May 2, 2024 10:32:16 GMT
Funny how you steer well clear of the thread on labours breaches of electoral law. Isn't it lefty old bean? LOL Just read this nonsense, its not a breach of electoral law, at worst it COULD BE missleading information, something which every political party indulges in at times. The local Labour Party apparently say it was the government who witheld funding, but the local Tories say it was the local council, so if it was the local council then WHY did the local council not fund the project ? Who has ever heard of local councils funding NHS capital building programmes ?, is it not the case that either the NHS or GP group practices build new surgeries. Theres a lot more to this story that we dont know about, and its utter desparation on the part of the soon to be redundant Tories. In FACT www.electoralcommission.org.uk/guidance-candidates-and-agents-local-authority-mayoral-elections-england/campaigning/table-offences"It’s a crime to make or publish a false statement about the personal character or conduct of a candidate, but other than that and the laws on the publication of offensive material, political parties, candidates or campaigners are not restricted in what they say in campaign materials" SO in FACT as opposed to your opinion, IF the statements on campaign materials are making an untrue statement that negatively impacts the character of one or more candidates at an election, then it IS illegal under these new requirements, Have a nice day |
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Post by witchfinder on May 2, 2024 10:42:27 GMT
Just read this nonsense, its not a breach of electoral law, at worst it COULD BE missleading information, something which every political party indulges in at times. The local Labour Party apparently say it was the government who witheld funding, but the local Tories say it was the local council, so if it was the local council then WHY did the local council not fund the project ? Who has ever heard of local councils funding NHS capital building programmes ?, is it not the case that either the NHS or GP group practices build new surgeries. Theres a lot more to this story that we dont know about, and its utter desparation on the part of the soon to be redundant Tories. In FACT www.electoralcommission.org.uk/guidance-candidates-and-agents-local-authority-mayoral-elections-england/campaigning/table-offences"It’s a crime to make or publish a false statement about the personal character or conduct of a candidate, but other than that and the laws on the publication of offensive material, political parties, candidates or campaigners are not restricted in what they say in campaign materials" SO in FACT as opposed to your opinion, IF the statements on campaign materials are making an untrue statement that negatively impacts the character of one or more candidates at an election, then it IS illegal under these new requirements, Have a nice day What a load of tripe ... Explain how an argument over who refused to fund the building of a GP Surgery could impact upon the character of a person or individual who is a candidate for election. ? There is definitely something odd about this story, as previously stated, local councils do not normally build or fund NHS Surgeries, local Clinical Commissioning Groups do, or local Health Trusts or GP Group Practices. |
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Post by jonksy on May 2, 2024 11:08:55 GMT
In FACT www.electoralcommission.org.uk/guidance-candidates-and-agents-local-authority-mayoral-elections-england/campaigning/table-offences"It’s a crime to make or publish a false statement about the personal character or conduct of a candidate, but other than that and the laws on the publication of offensive material, political parties, candidates or campaigners are not restricted in what they say in campaign materials" SO in FACT as opposed to your opinion, IF the statements on campaign materials are making an untrue statement that negatively impacts the character of one or more candidates at an election, then it IS illegal under these new requirements, Have a nice day ... Explain how an argument over who refused to fund the building of a GP Surgery could impact upon the character of a person or individual who is a candidate for election. ? There is definitely something odd about this story, as previously stated, local councils do not normally build or fund NHS Surgeries, local Clinical Commissioning Groups do, or local Health Trusts or GP Group Practices. Yep that is all you post fiddles...They have lied blatantly to the electorate FFS...
EDIT....... What if you have made a mistake?
You may be able to apply for relief from the penalties of an offence which has been committed inadvertently, innocently or without your knowledge.
You should always seek independent legal advice when considering applying for relief.
For more information, you should contact the:
Election Petitions Office
Room E105
Royal Courts of Justice
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Post by johnofgwent on May 2, 2024 11:11:25 GMT
In FACT www.electoralcommission.org.uk/guidance-candidates-and-agents-local-authority-mayoral-elections-england/campaigning/table-offences"It’s a crime to make or publish a false statement about the personal character or conduct of a candidate, but other than that and the laws on the publication of offensive material, political parties, candidates or campaigners are not restricted in what they say in campaign materials" SO in FACT as opposed to your opinion, IF the statements on campaign materials are making an untrue statement that negatively impacts the character of one or more candidates at an election, then it IS illegal under these new requirements, Have a nice day What a load of tripe ... Explain how an argument over who refused to fund the building of a GP Surgery could impact upon the character of a person or individual who is a candidate for election. ? There is definitely something odd about this story, as previously stated, local councils do not normally build or fund NHS Surgeries, local Clinical Commissioning Groups do, or local Health Trusts or GP Group Practices. Well, it’s easy to explain really Labour are trying to pretend the decision to do fuck all is down to people other than their own elected individuals. By seeking to blame others when the fault lies with themselves, they have made a clearly false statement. If the person they aim their lies at is a candidate in an election then they are guilty as charged. It really is that simple and i hope to see it used against the Welsh wankers in labour especially as a conviction of this kind would bar them from office. In short they really are going to have to learn to refrain from blaming others for their own decisions and incompetence |
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